The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
monty999 said:
as Danny Murphy said "football has never been a perfect game and never should be", I totally agree.
I've been having this conversation from when it was first mutedFootball will be better when we get the big decisions right.
Me: why?
Well...it's obvious innit.
Me: not to me, so tell me why.
Coz the big decisions will be right.
Me: err, that may be, but why is that better?
What d'ya mean mate...obviously that's better.
Me: why?
Coz they're right.
Me: err, that may be, but why is that better?
Rinse and repeat. Still waiting for an answer.
Sometimes I get "the big teams get it all their own way, VAR will stop that"
Mmmmm, let's see the table at the end of the season. I have a hunch the top 6 might not look too different to last season.
I think Man City will get more pens than Sheff Utd......because they'll spend a lot longer in the opposition pen area.
I celebrated Mount’s goal and had forgotten about VAR at the point because celebrations are instinctive. To me they always will be - ok, sometimes my celebrations may be cut short but I accept that. A fair few people celebrated Pedro’s shot into the side net and stopped only when they realised it wasn’t. Last season there were a number of goals where the crowd and team celebrated a goal for a number of seconds not realising the assist ref had a flag up. It’s the same thing.
I agree with you about the Top 6 thing - I’ve never really agreed with that particular conspiracy.
There's a difference between celebrating for a few seconds before you spot the asst ref has his flag up, and celebrating for 2 mins and having the goal ruled out when the ball is on the centre spot, as happened at Brighton at the weekend.
Last night Wolves came within a whisker of having their equaliser ruled out, over a ludicrous offside in the build up that no one would have even spotted without var. None of the Man U players were appealing for it. If that goal had been an inch offside and ruled out, how is that improving the game?
Last night Wolves came within a whisker of having their equaliser ruled out, over a ludicrous offside in the build up that no one would have even spotted without var. None of the Man U players were appealing for it. If that goal had been an inch offside and ruled out, how is that improving the game?
ChevyChase77 said:
Of course you can't control your natural reaction but it would be funny to coordinate with the fans when the ball goes in the net to remain silent until the refs given the green light for the goal.
It's only a natural reaction because that's the way we've done it for years. Maybe in a few years, fans will naturally not celebrate until the var check is complete. Or have a 2 tier celebration, like we do now when winning a pen. A cheer when it's given but not going too mad until it's been taken and scored. TwigtheWonderkid said:
Really need to kick start our season with a good win at Carrow Rd tomorrow. Can't see it though. Going for a 1-1.
There goes your 1-1 !!So chuffed for the two young lads getting their goals but it concerns me whenever Zouma has the ball at his feet, he looks very uncomfortable.
A Winner Is You said:
What's the point in VAR is it isn't used for clear penalty calls like that? Very pleased for Tammy though - now let's see how long it is until they equalise.
It's a load of crap. Should have had a pen and one of theirs sent off, plus the 'attacking phase' question of the foul for their first goal. I half expected our third to be ruled out for Tammy being a b
k hair offside.Anyway, glad we got a deserved win despite all that and like you, very pleased for Tammy.
A Winner Is You said:
What's the point in VAR is it isn't used for clear penalty calls like that? Very pleased for Tammy though - now let's see how long it is until they equalise.
That's the problem with VAR, it's still going to be inconsistent so I don't see the point of it - unless it only steps in for clear and obvious errors. The foul on Abraham in the build up to Norwich's equaliser. The VAR team decided the 'foul' was in a different phase of play. But if you watch the goal there is no different phase of play. The goal clearly comes from that phase. ChevyChase77 said:
That's the problem with VAR, it's still going to be inconsistent so I don't see the point of it - unless it only steps in for clear and obvious errors. The foul on Abraham in the build up to Norwich's equaliser. The VAR team decided the 'foul' was in a different phase of play. But if you watch the goal there is no different phase of play. The goal clearly comes from that phase.
What I gathered from that is if you know you have got away with fouling someone and can go on the attack, just play one pass backwards so it's deemed a different phase!The foul in the box not given on Azpiliceuta was just ridiculous.
We've had VAR on virtually everything and that has caused arguments, now that it's seemingly used selectively for 'clear and obvious ' incidents it's still causing arguments over what is 'clear and obvious' as this is still very subjective. Please lets go back and leave it to the ref's & linesman's decision, at least then we would know who to blame for a bad decision !
monarodom said:
ChevyChase77 said:
That's the problem with VAR, it's still going to be inconsistent so I don't see the point of it - unless it only steps in for clear and obvious errors. The foul on Abraham in the build up to Norwich's equaliser. The VAR team decided the 'foul' was in a different phase of play. But if you watch the goal there is no different phase of play. The goal clearly comes from that phase.
What I gathered from that is if you know you have got away with fouling someone and can go on the attack, just play one pass backwards so it's deemed a different phase!The foul in the box not given on Azpiliceuta was just ridiculous.
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