The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's like groundhog day watching us. Same old thing again today, total domination and end up clinging on to a one goal lead. Pathetic.
Will we ever win comfortably again?
Well I could say Liverpool have done the same. Someone, probably a city fan, said we'd won 11 of our 22 wins by 1 goal this season. Pretty fine margins when you think about it. Will we ever win comfortably again?
Leicester away tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see us win or lose heavily. But I'm going for a 1-1 draw. We score after 20 mins with our 10th decent chance. We spurn another 15 great chances thru the rest of the game, we conceded an equaliser on 85 mins with their first decent chance of the game, survive a late barrage, and just about cling on for a point.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Leicester away tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see us win or lose heavily. But I'm going for a 1-1 draw. We score after 20 mins with our 10th decent chance. We spurn another 15 great chances thru the rest of the game, we conceded an equaliser on 85 mins with their first decent chance of the game, survive a late barrage, and just about cling on for a point.
Close enough 
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Leicester away tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see us win or lose heavily. But I'm going for a 1-1 draw. We score after 20 mins with our 10th decent chance. We spurn another 15 great chances thru the rest of the game, we conceded an equaliser on 85 mins with their first decent chance of the game, survive a late barrage, and just about cling on for a point.
Close enough GT03ROB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Leicester away tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see us win or lose heavily. But I'm going for a 1-1 draw. We score after 20 mins with our 10th decent chance. We spurn another 15 great chances thru the rest of the game, we conceded an equaliser on 85 mins with their first decent chance of the game, survive a late barrage, and just about cling on for a point.
Close enough 
What we already knew confirmed by UEFA referee meeting:
Blunders that cost Ajax CL knock-out stage discussed by UEFA on Mallorca
During the 'referee winter meeting' of the European football association UEFA on the Spanish island of Mallorca, to which dozens of top international arbitrators were invited, it was acknowledged that arbitrary blunders of Gianluca Rocchi killed the Amsterdammers on 5 November 2019 during Chelsea-Ajax (4-4, after a 1-4 intermediate score). A victory in London had afterwards resulted in Erik ten Hag's team hibernating in the CL
That the "Shame of Stamford Bridge" is now unveiled in De Telegraaf was of course not the intention of UEFA. The meeting on Monday 27, Tuesday 28 and Wednesday 29 January at the Melia Palma Bay resort, a four-star hotel 350 meters from Ca’n Pere Antoni beach, was of course closed. But the conclusions that were drawn when discussing the images of Chelsea-Ajax were that referee Rocchi cost the Amsterdam team the victory and - as it turned out later in the month - a place in the eighth finals of the Champions League.
Chelsea-Ajax was not the only Champions League match that were reviewed. A total of one hundred and fifty clips with "incidents" and "questionable (VAR) moments" were discussed.
After the game in London, which ended Ajax with nine, Daley Blind already complained about Rocchi's arbitrary errors. The Ajax player thought that just before his second yellow (and therefore red) card a violation was committed against him. "I have looked back at the images: it seems clear to me that the boy (Christian Pulisic, ed.) Touches me." However, on Mallorca there was almost complete consensus that the Italian referee rightly allowed Rocchi to continue playing. And the offense that Blind then committed was, according to everyone present, worthy of yellow. So there was nothing to criticize on the red card for the routinier - at 2-4.
The company in Melia Palma Bay, however, found it almost unanimous that the Italian should have stopped the game after Blind's violation, because according to the rules of the game, advantage can only be given if there is a direct scoring opportunity. It was not there 35 meters from the target. Which was also underlined by European referee boss Roberto Rosetti on the Spanish island.
If Rocchi had adhered to the rules book, Joël Veltman would have been spared a red card anyway. The defender got the ball unhappy against his hand and saw in astonishment how he got a penalty and a second yellow card. Also wrong, almost all Rocchi's colleagues thought. According to Rosetti and the majority of the others present, the VAR should have intervened. The penalty kick and red card for Veltman had to be reversed.
Suspicions of Ajax confirmed
So in Palma de Mallorca it was finally confirmed what the Ajax fans already thought in November and the media wrote: that there was talk of theft on Stamford Bridge. A letter from Ajax to UEFA with questions about the arbitral decisions was evasively answered. The club is seated by Rocchi with the baked pears. Placement for the knock-out phase of the Champions League had brought Ajax 9.5 million euros, a victory over Chelsea instead of a draw an additional 1.8 million euros. Not to mention the rising market values of the players and the tens of millions that could be credited if Ajax had also reached the quarter-final, half-final battle or the final next spring.
Blunders that cost Ajax CL knock-out stage discussed by UEFA on Mallorca
During the 'referee winter meeting' of the European football association UEFA on the Spanish island of Mallorca, to which dozens of top international arbitrators were invited, it was acknowledged that arbitrary blunders of Gianluca Rocchi killed the Amsterdammers on 5 November 2019 during Chelsea-Ajax (4-4, after a 1-4 intermediate score). A victory in London had afterwards resulted in Erik ten Hag's team hibernating in the CL
That the "Shame of Stamford Bridge" is now unveiled in De Telegraaf was of course not the intention of UEFA. The meeting on Monday 27, Tuesday 28 and Wednesday 29 January at the Melia Palma Bay resort, a four-star hotel 350 meters from Ca’n Pere Antoni beach, was of course closed. But the conclusions that were drawn when discussing the images of Chelsea-Ajax were that referee Rocchi cost the Amsterdam team the victory and - as it turned out later in the month - a place in the eighth finals of the Champions League.
Chelsea-Ajax was not the only Champions League match that were reviewed. A total of one hundred and fifty clips with "incidents" and "questionable (VAR) moments" were discussed.
After the game in London, which ended Ajax with nine, Daley Blind already complained about Rocchi's arbitrary errors. The Ajax player thought that just before his second yellow (and therefore red) card a violation was committed against him. "I have looked back at the images: it seems clear to me that the boy (Christian Pulisic, ed.) Touches me." However, on Mallorca there was almost complete consensus that the Italian referee rightly allowed Rocchi to continue playing. And the offense that Blind then committed was, according to everyone present, worthy of yellow. So there was nothing to criticize on the red card for the routinier - at 2-4.
The company in Melia Palma Bay, however, found it almost unanimous that the Italian should have stopped the game after Blind's violation, because according to the rules of the game, advantage can only be given if there is a direct scoring opportunity. It was not there 35 meters from the target. Which was also underlined by European referee boss Roberto Rosetti on the Spanish island.
If Rocchi had adhered to the rules book, Joël Veltman would have been spared a red card anyway. The defender got the ball unhappy against his hand and saw in astonishment how he got a penalty and a second yellow card. Also wrong, almost all Rocchi's colleagues thought. According to Rosetti and the majority of the others present, the VAR should have intervened. The penalty kick and red card for Veltman had to be reversed.
Suspicions of Ajax confirmed
So in Palma de Mallorca it was finally confirmed what the Ajax fans already thought in November and the media wrote: that there was talk of theft on Stamford Bridge. A letter from Ajax to UEFA with questions about the arbitral decisions was evasively answered. The club is seated by Rocchi with the baked pears. Placement for the knock-out phase of the Champions League had brought Ajax 9.5 million euros, a victory over Chelsea instead of a draw an additional 1.8 million euros. Not to mention the rising market values of the players and the tens of millions that could be credited if Ajax had also reached the quarter-final, half-final battle or the final next spring.
DeltonaS said:
More whining
So to summarise, the ref maybe shouldn't have allowed the advantage for Ajax during which Blind rightly was awarded a second yellow?And a handball shouldn't have resulted in a penalty because people at a later review thought it might have been accidental?
Get a grip - Football is always unfair if you lose - time to move on.
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