The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

[GT03ROB]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Adam B said:

monarodom said:

Great win. So glad Giroud stayed on in Jan, he has been excellent ever since. Top player.

Bizarrely underrated. Great in the air and scores some really clever goals that don’t seem to get the credit deserved.

He's not a top draw striker in my book. He's a good player, and he's been ggood for us this season when he played from Jan onwards. But to win the league you need more than that. You need a Drogba, Aguero, Vardy or Kane type player, who'll score 20+ goals. That ain't Giroud.

Hopefully Timo Werner can be that player.

He's not a Drogba / Aguero / Costa. But those are all very special strikers. What he does though is he's got a fine sense for the goal from within about 10yds.... most of his goals are from close... he seems to have a great knack of getting shot on target. I think where he's also helped is against the defensive packed teams...when we try to pass the ball through them it all comes unstuck....Giroud offers the crude option of just moving it quickly with a punt upfield. The build up play otherwise gets far too slow & predictable. Teams have time to form up to defend.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

GT03ROB said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Adam B said:

monarodom said:

Great win. So glad Giroud stayed on in Jan, he has been excellent ever since. Top player.

Bizarrely underrated. Great in the air and scores some really clever goals that don’t seem to get the credit deserved.

He's not a top draw striker in my book. He's a good player, and he's been ggood for us this season when he played from Jan onwards. But to win the league you need more than that. You need a Drogba, Aguero, Vardy or Kane type player, who'll score 20+ goals. That ain't Giroud.

Hopefully Timo Werner can be that player.

He's not a Drogba / Aguero / Costa. But those are all very special strikers.

There are many strikers in the Prem right now better than Giroud. Mane, Salah, Aguero, Stirling, Vardy, Kane, Abamayang and Ings spring to mind.

[trackdemon]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

GT03ROB said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Adam B said:

monarodom said:

Great win. So glad Giroud stayed on in Jan, he has been excellent ever since. Top player.

Bizarrely underrated. Great in the air and scores some really clever goals that don’t seem to get the credit deserved.

He's not a top draw striker in my book. He's a good player, and he's been ggood for us this season when he played from Jan onwards. But to win the league you need more than that. You need a Drogba, Aguero, Vardy or Kane type player, who'll score 20+ goals. That ain't Giroud.

Hopefully Timo Werner can be that player.

He's not a Drogba / Aguero / Costa. But those are all very special strikers.

There are many strikers in the Prem right now better than Giroud. Mane, Salah, Aguero, Stirling, Vardy, Kane, Abamayang and Ings spring to mind.

All superb forwards, some world class - sadly they're not easy to find. Doesn't mean Giroud isn't doing a good job, also doesn't mean CF is a position we could do with improving - but defence (including keeper) is by far the priority for now imho

[jammy-git]

Giroud seems to be one of those strikers who can miss an open goal from 6 yards, and then score a worldie with his head from the edge of the area with a packed defence in front of him. I think he's not thought of more highly because he just isn't consistent enough.

[Leicester Loyal]

Ben Chilwell linked to you at the minute, although it's been going on for a while now. If you pay what we're demanding then I think you'll get him, but it's a high sum, and it looks like you're signing an expensive keeper too by the looks of it.

[GT03ROB]

Leicester Loyal said:

Ben Chilwell linked to you at the minute, although it's been going on for a while now. If you pay what we're demanding then I think you'll get him, but it's a high sum, and it looks like you're signing an expensive keeper too by the looks of it.

Not really convinced by Chilwell at the money being spoken about. Is he really all that? He's not the next Ashley Cole is he?

[Leicester Loyal]

GT03ROB said:

Not really convinced by Chilwell at the money being spoken about. Is he really all that? He's not the next Ashley Cole is he?

Lovely lad and one of our own. He's had an injury for some of this season which has had an effect on some of his performances. He's good with the ball and getting the whole team further up the pitch, but his crosses are usually aimless and don't find anyone. Scores the odd cracker and is a quick. A lot of the time when he gets up the pitch he turns and passes it back, for some reason he can't play with Barnes, who is our starting LW. For me it's the same situation as Maguire for both our teams, would he improve you? Yes. Is he worth the figures thrown around? Definitely not. But he's English, he's on a four year deal and we are tough negotiators. You'll have to pay around 50m including another 10 or so in add ons IMO. From what I've been told, we'll need to sell in order to spend, so getting 60m for him allows us to buy a replacement LB and the winger we desperately need, and this was exactly the situation for us with Maguire last summer.

You boys are spending a bloody fortune, it's gonna end up being 250-300m in transfer fees alone if you get a keeper, Chilwell and then the CB you want too. It makes me realise how special 15/16 was, we'll never be able to compete with any of the big boys on a regular basis, we just don't have the revenue.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Leicester Loyal said:

You boys are spending a bloody fortune, it's gonna end up being 250-300m in transfer fees alone if you get a keeper, Chilwell and then the CB you want too. It makes me realise how special 15/16 was, we'll never be able to compete with any of the big boys on a regular basis, we just don't have the revenue.

I'm not sure it's the financials that will hamper you in competing with the big boys. I think it's just the lack of prestige. No player is going to want to stay at Leicester when Man U come knocking. Even if Leicester are a better team at the time. In the same way as we couldn't keep Hazard when Madrid started sniffing around. What professional footballer wouldn't want to play for Real Madrid over Chelsea, or Man U/ Chelsea over Leicester.

I was amazed when Vardy turned down Arsenal to stay at Leicester. That's the exception rather than the rule.

[jammy-git]

I think Maddison has rejected advances from Utd to stay at Leicester and agree a new contract.

[Gadgetmac]

jammy-git said:

I think Maddison has rejected advances from Utd to stay at Leicester and agree a new contract.

If there were ever actual advances made.

[Leicester Loyal]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I'm not sure it's the financials that will hamper you in competing with the big boys. I think it's just the lack of prestige. No player is going to want to stay at Leicester when Man U come knocking. Even if Leicester are a better team at the time. In the same way as we couldn't keep Hazard when Madrid started sniffing around. What professional footballer wouldn't want to play for Real Madrid over Chelsea, or Man U/ Chelsea over Leicester.

I was amazed when Vardy turned down Arsenal to stay at Leicester. That's the exception rather than the rule.

Jamie Vardy, what a bloke. A club legend. I was convinced he'd go and he'd flop there too, 100%.

Gadgetmac said:

jammy-git said:

I think Maddison has rejected advances from Utd to stay at Leicester and agree a new contract.

If there were ever actual advances made.

Yeah I don't think United were ever seriously in for him, he's just not their level at the minute. Give it another season or 18 months and he might be, but a team like United can't buy him to hope he gets there, they'll just pay the extra 30m once he's reached that level.

[GT03ROB]

Right cup final tomorrow. Was a time we'd have been getting excited for weeks.... looking forward to the only live game of the year, Cup Final Grandstand starting at 10am... Cup final It's-a-knockout at 11am.... seeing the teams in their hotels....leaving their hotels.... interviews with their mums, dogs, friends, fans... Abide With Me... introductions to the Queen...… sit down a 3pm …. tears of joy or sadness by 4:45.....

….bit different these days.... 3-1 stuffing of the Arse I hope....

[TwigtheWonderkid]

GT03ROB said:

sit down a 3pm …. tears of joy or sadness by 4:45.....

….bit different these days....

Yes, it doesn't kick off until 5:30.

[aeropilot]

GT03ROB said:

Right cup final tomorrow. Was a time we'd have been getting excited for weeks.... looking forward to the only live game of the year, Cup Final Grandstand starting at 10am... Cup final It's-a-knockout at 11am.... seeing the teams in their hotels....leaving their hotels.... interviews with their mums, dogs, friends, fans... Abide With Me... introductions to the Queen...… sit down a 3pm …. tears of joy or sadness by 4:45.....

Happy days.........it was what was special about Cup Final day.....not to mention the old Wembley.

The FA Cup final really has lost that bit of magic in the modern football world.....

Watched the Championship playoff's last night on Quest to see a last glimpse of dear old Griffin Park.....spent many a Sat afternoon there in the 70's, 80's & 90's with my late father, as he'd been a Bees fan since their heady last season in the top flight in 46-47, but he only got to watch one Div 1 match there during his two-week leave from the army after getting back from his 12 month deployment to Palestine.

[GT03ROB]

aeropilot said:

Happy days.........it was what was special about Cup Final day.....not to mention the old Wembley.

The FA Cup final really has lost that bit of magic in the modern football world.....

Watched the Championship playoff's last night on Quest to see a last glimpse of dear old Griffin Park.....spent many a Sat afternoon there in the 70's, 80's & 90's with my late father, as he'd been a Bees fan since their heady last season in the top flight in 46-47, but he only got to watch one Div 1 match there during his two-week leave from the army after getting back from his 12 month deployment to Palestine.

Yeah they say that the big boys don't take it seriously, yet part of the magic has gone because the big boys dominate it now. In the last 30yrs it's only gone outside the big boys 4 times (spuds, everton, wigan & portsmouth). Chelsea, Manure or Arsenal have won it 20 times in those years. 3 of the last 4 finals have been between those 3.

[smn159]

aeropilot said:

Happy days.........it was what was special about Cup Final day.....not to mention the old Wembley.

The FA Cup final really has lost that bit of magic in the modern football world.....

Watched the Championship playoff's last night on Quest to see a last glimpse of dear old Griffin Park.....spent many a Sat afternoon there in the 70's, 80's & 90's with my late father, as he'd been a Bees fan since their heady last season in the top flight in 46-47, but he only got to watch one Div 1 match there during his two-week leave from the army after getting back from his 12 month deployment to Palestine.

I know a couple of Bees fans - would love to see them in the Prem.

[Wadeski]

A bit weird for me, Bees were my lower league team (they bounced around 2nd/3rd tiers for the last 30 years) and Chelsea my Prem team as both local to where I grew up. I went to Griffin Park when kids tickets were maybe 5 pounds in the late 80s/early 90s? The football back then was...not great, and whenever I went we seemed to lose (at home) but it made Saturdays interesting. Maybe my dad did it just to get me away from playing Amiga games indoors.

I'll be honest by the mid 90s I much preferred watching Gullit, Vialli, and Di Matteo on TV, so spend more time following Chelsea...but having Brentford in the premier league would be strange! I hope they beat Fulham and didn't peak with that last game.

[monty999]

We were good for the first 10 minutes then pretty average after the good start, unlucky losing Dave and Pulasic. I thought the ref had a worse game than us and ruined what was potentially good game, the second yellow for Kovo was a crap decision and how was the Arsenal keeper not pulled up for handling outside the box which was a defo goal if he hadn't caught it, and maybe a sending off ??

Decent season overall in the circumstances but we are still way off what is required to contend the title, will be interesting to see the team set up next season...in a few weeks time !

[smn159]

Our defence was predictably crap. Fortunately we've signed several strikers to address this

Harsh decisions and bad luck with injuries but still have to say that Arsenal deserved the win.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

They never showed a reply of the goalie's poss handball outside the area. If it was, then it was denying a goalscoring opportunity, and as it was outside the box and not a pen, it should have been a red card. Did var look at it and decide it was inside?

Yes, we had some bad luck, but it was a fair result. The better team on the day won.......the swines!!