The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]
Discussion
aeropilot said:
Not surprised given that it was so late and the club are up against a deadline so no time for proper due diligence smn159 said:
aeropilot said:
Not surprised given that it was so late and the club are up against a deadline so no time for proper due diligence Cheib said:
trackdemon said:
Ascayman said:
Times are reporting Abromovich wants his loan paid back.. wouldn’t that make any sale pretty much a non starter?
They can report what they like, doesn't make it true. Why would he change a very publicly made statement? 
? Do you honestly think he’s made as much money as he has by being an honest upstanding citizen ? He admitted in court to paying £1.2 bil in political bribes so he’s well used to the dark arts of the financial world.There’s too much information in that article for it not to have some truth…when it was reported last week he’d asked for an extra £500mil it indicated the goalposts were being moved.
For this loan to get repaid would be a massive change….for both the buyers and the government. Abramovich is trying to leverage the fact that if he doesn’t green light the sale Chelsea are out of business. As it stands he either gets nothing or he gets his £1.5 bil loans repaid and in five years time he hopes sanctions get lifted and he can get at the money again. He’s got nothing to lose…it’s never good negotiating with someone in that position.
That and Saudi United and Abu Dhabi City will just use it as a massive loophole to jump through.
Wombat3 said:
Cheib said:
trackdemon said:
Ascayman said:
Times are reporting Abromovich wants his loan paid back.. wouldn’t that make any sale pretty much a non starter?
They can report what they like, doesn't make it true. Why would he change a very publicly made statement? ? Do you honestly think he’s made as much money as he has by being an honest upstanding citizen ? He admitted in court to paying £1.2 bil in political bribes so he’s well used to the dark arts of the financial world.There’s too much information in that article for it not to have some truth…when it was reported last week he’d asked for an extra £500mil it indicated the goalposts were being moved.
For this loan to get repaid would be a massive change….for both the buyers and the government. Abramovich is trying to leverage the fact that if he doesn’t green light the sale Chelsea are out of business. As it stands he either gets nothing or he gets his £1.5 bil loans repaid and in five years time he hopes sanctions get lifted and he can get at the money again. He’s got nothing to lose…it’s never good negotiating with someone in that position.
That and Saudi United and Abu Dhabi City will just use it as a massive loophole to jump through.
For the party of free market economics to do this would be bizarre through-the-looking-glass stuff. Especially when most of Europe is still shoveling billions of Euros directly into Kremlin coffers through the sale of oil and gas.
Wadeski said:
Wombat3 said:
Cheib said:
trackdemon said:
Ascayman said:
Times are reporting Abromovich wants his loan paid back.. wouldn’t that make any sale pretty much a non starter?
They can report what they like, doesn't make it true. Why would he change a very publicly made statement? ? Do you honestly think he’s made as much money as he has by being an honest upstanding citizen ? He admitted in court to paying £1.2 bil in political bribes so he’s well used to the dark arts of the financial world.There’s too much information in that article for it not to have some truth…when it was reported last week he’d asked for an extra £500mil it indicated the goalposts were being moved.
For this loan to get repaid would be a massive change….for both the buyers and the government. Abramovich is trying to leverage the fact that if he doesn’t green light the sale Chelsea are out of business. As it stands he either gets nothing or he gets his £1.5 bil loans repaid and in five years time he hopes sanctions get lifted and he can get at the money again. He’s got nothing to lose…it’s never good negotiating with someone in that position.
That and Saudi United and Abu Dhabi City will just use it as a massive loophole to jump through.
For the party of free market economics to do this would be bizarre through-the-looking-glass stuff. Especially when most of Europe is still shoveling billions of Euros directly into Kremlin coffers through the sale of oil and gas.
Any news on Lebedev having to give his peerage back?
Le roi est mort, vive le roi
So the roman empire is now at an end. There are many who will find fault with how he came by his money & his involvement with Putin. However how many owners can claim to have been angels? However this is not the point. For close on 20 years Chelsea have had an owner who has supported the club fully, not stripped it, spent money & supported things that many others owners have not. One thinks of the academy investing in future stars, yes it's taken time but look at where some of the best young talent in English football has come from. Declan Rice anyone? His arranging of regular visits to Holocaust sites in Poland for the youth to make them aware of the tradegies of discrimination. Despite what many think the club has got many things very right off the field. Yes there have been mistakes like the short lived dalliance with Euro Super League. The on field record speaks for itself. It could have been better....so much better... mistakes were made..... but it wouldn;t be Chelsea otherwise. It's been a great ride, thank you Roman.
As for the new king... it seems he has a good record with sports ownership and has driven the revival of the LA Dodgers. It won't be the same but lets hope the differences balance each other. Less vanity purchases (Shevchenko, Torres).... more managerial tolerance (why oh why was Ancelloti sacked?)
Hopefully a bit of certainty will shore up the onfield performances get us over the line for the Champions League next year & give us a good showing in the Cup Final. A few key signings over the summer and he squad & manager will still not be fundamentally different from that which won the CL
KTBFFH
So the roman empire is now at an end. There are many who will find fault with how he came by his money & his involvement with Putin. However how many owners can claim to have been angels? However this is not the point. For close on 20 years Chelsea have had an owner who has supported the club fully, not stripped it, spent money & supported things that many others owners have not. One thinks of the academy investing in future stars, yes it's taken time but look at where some of the best young talent in English football has come from. Declan Rice anyone? His arranging of regular visits to Holocaust sites in Poland for the youth to make them aware of the tradegies of discrimination. Despite what many think the club has got many things very right off the field. Yes there have been mistakes like the short lived dalliance with Euro Super League. The on field record speaks for itself. It could have been better....so much better... mistakes were made..... but it wouldn;t be Chelsea otherwise. It's been a great ride, thank you Roman.
As for the new king... it seems he has a good record with sports ownership and has driven the revival of the LA Dodgers. It won't be the same but lets hope the differences balance each other. Less vanity purchases (Shevchenko, Torres).... more managerial tolerance (why oh why was Ancelloti sacked?)
Hopefully a bit of certainty will shore up the onfield performances get us over the line for the Champions League next year & give us a good showing in the Cup Final. A few key signings over the summer and he squad & manager will still not be fundamentally different from that which won the CL
KTBFFH
blue al said:
Hopefully the war is over before the sale completes.
The sale has to be completed by 31st May when the Govt licence runs out....Sadly, the war in Ukraine will be going on for a lot longer than that unless one of Pootin's inner circle puts a bullet through Mad Vlad's head in the meantime....
originals said:
GT03ROB said:
For close on 20 years Chelsea have had an owner who has supported the club fully, not stripped it
He did a good job of stripping his homeland though But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
He has? Wiki states he has given more money away than any other living Russian, most of that to his homeland. Ask the people of Cukotka, they got more from RA than they ever would have got from the Russian govt.
But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
Luckily he won all his money gambling in Monaco too, or was it a few EuroMillions jackpots while on a lucky streak. In no way did he get that from asset stripping the country in any way whatsoever But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
unident said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
He has? Wiki states he has given more money away than any other living Russian, most of that to his homeland. Ask the people of Cukotka, they got more from RA than they ever would have got from the Russian govt.
But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
Luckily he won all his money gambling in Monaco too, or was it a few EuroMillions jackpots while on a lucky streak. In no way did he get that from asset stripping the country in any way whatsoever But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
unident said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
He has? Wiki states he has given more money away than any other living Russian, most of that to his homeland. Ask the people of Cukotka, they got more from RA than they ever would have got from the Russian govt.
But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
Luckily he won all his money gambling in Monaco too, or was it a few EuroMillions jackpots while on a lucky streak. In no way did he get that from asset stripping the country in any way whatsoever But back to the football, we're on the crest of a slump.
RA said:
Here, have some of your money back I stole from you
I believe he was also very supportive of the Super Yacht industry....What a guy!
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