The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

[LF5335]

You won’t need 40, 36 will be enough. You will get over 40 anyway, it won’t be much over based on the way you’re playing now, but if it continues you’ll get a new manager bounce as the board will have to sack him.

[Challo]

LF5335 said:

LF5335 said:

I’ve never understood the hype around Potter. He might have done a good job at Brighton, but the football was mindnumbingly dull and it’s the same at Chelsea. His whole game plan seems to be to pass the ball around sideways and backwards, then try to nick a goal. That might be acceptable at a lower table club who are punching above their weight, but no way will it wash at your place. Whether he’ll get a chance to build his own squad and team is unlikely I reckon.

Sacking Tuchel was bizarre and seems even more so now. I can only think it was about clearing out the former owners management team and replacing it with the new guys choice.

Just throwing this up again that I posted on the 2nd January. Can’t say my opinion has changed much. You’re a basket case of a club with the way it’s now run, but Potter is so far out of his depth it’s frightening. They shoot horses don’t they?

He needs putting out of his misery and a quick sacking is definitely in order. It’s the humane thing to do.

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in? They have spent a ton of money to get him and his whole team from Brighton to sack him after 6 months and your back to square one. New manger comes in a decides they don’t want these players and they need to go and buy more.

[968]

LF5335 said:

You won’t need 40, 36 will be enough. You will get over 40 anyway, it won’t be much over based on the way you’re playing now, but if it continues you’ll get a new manager bounce as the board will have to sack him.

I don’t think they will sack him though. I think they’ll stubbornly stick to their guns.

[LF5335]

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in? They have spent a ton of money to get him and his whole team from Brighton to sack him after 6 months and your back to square one. New manger comes in a decides they don’t want these players and they need to go and buy more.

I don’t know, I’m not a Chelsea fan, so don’t really care. I just never saw in Potter what others seem to. There’ll be some high profile foreign coach that they can bring in for silly money.

968 said:

I don’t think they will sack him though. I think they’ll stubbornly stick to their guns.

I don’t think they’ll have a choice if they’ve still not got 40 points with 5 games to go. That still gives him 9 games to get there. I still think he’s hopelessly out of his depth though.

[CT05 Nose Cone]

Challo said:

LF5335 said:

LF5335 said:

I’ve never understood the hype around Potter. He might have done a good job at Brighton, but the football was mindnumbingly dull and it’s the same at Chelsea. His whole game plan seems to be to pass the ball around sideways and backwards, then try to nick a goal. That might be acceptable at a lower table club who are punching above their weight, but no way will it wash at your place. Whether he’ll get a chance to build his own squad and team is unlikely I reckon.

Sacking Tuchel was bizarre and seems even more so now. I can only think it was about clearing out the former owners management team and replacing it with the new guys choice.

Just throwing this up again that I posted on the 2nd January. Can’t say my opinion has changed much. You’re a basket case of a club with the way it’s now run, but Potter is so far out of his depth it’s frightening. They shoot horses don’t they?

He needs putting out of his misery and a quick sacking is definitely in order. It’s the humane thing to do.

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in? They have spent a ton of money to get him and his whole team from Brighton to sack him after 6 months and your back to square one. New manger comes in a decides they don’t want these players and they need to go and buy more.

It's getting to the point where it could be literally anyone else, as they couldn't be any worse.

[aeropilot]

968 said:

LF5335 said:

You won’t need 40, 36 will be enough. You will get over 40 anyway, it won’t be much over based on the way you’re playing now, but if it continues you’ll get a new manager bounce as the board will have to sack him.

I don’t think they will sack him though. I think they’ll stubbornly stick to their guns.

There were press reports the other day Boehly is interested in buying French club Stasbourg.....

[fourstardan]

I just cannot get how the owners back this muppet now.

He has DAYS to train with these players between games yet it's getting worse.

Only way is if the fans talk with there tickets and don't turn upto the Leeds game.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in?

Thomas Tuchel.

[DocJock]

Everyone wanted Arsenal to sack Arteta 18 months ago. Look at what he's done after being given time.

[Riff Raff]

DocJock said:

Everyone wanted Arsenal to sack Arteta 18 months ago. Look at what he's done after being given time.

He’s not playing Havertz up front though…

[smn159]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in?

Thomas Tuchel.

Should never have let him go. WTF was Boehly thinking?

[Riff Raff]

smn159 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in?

Thomas Tuchel.

Should never have let him go. WTF was Boehly thinking?

He wanted a ‘yes’ man. TT is not that man.

[JNW1]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in?

Thomas Tuchel.

Whether that's practical surely depends on why Tuchel was sacked and whether anything's changed from the club's perspective in the meantime; if the reason(s) they got rid of him are still perceived to be valid why would they consider bringing him back? And of course the whole idea of bringing Tuchel back assumes he'd be interested in working for Boehly again - given the way he was dismissed by him only a few months ago that might not be the case.

So while things have been very disappointing for Chelsea under Potter I'm not sure Tuchel would be a realistic short-term solution?

[LF5335]

DocJock said:

Everyone wanted Arsenal to sack Arteta 18 months ago. Look at what he's done after being given time.

The two situations are very different. Arteta had a clear vision and style of play evident from day one. He started off well with it, then dipped quite badly as he tried to integrate it further into a team consisting of his players, but then came back with this. I can’t say I like his style of football, but it’s effective. I’m not sure you can see Potter’s style being implemented at all. His style is what he’s brought from Brighton and elsewhere, which is sideways and backwards, with an absolute aversion to taking a shot in case you lose possession.

[jammy-git]

smn159 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Challo said:

All well and good sacking him, but who comes in?

Thomas Tuchel.

Should never have let him go. WTF was Boehly thinking?

Just because Potter isn't working out it doesn't mean that Tuchel was the correct man either. Tuchel has had issues with every club he's been at so far!

[fourstardan]

DocJock said:

Everyone wanted Arsenal to sack Arteta 18 months ago. Look at what he's done after being given time.

Never compare Chelsea to Arsenal on this thread around performance, until they win the Champions League twice you shouldn't even bother.

Arsenal never spent ludicrous amounts of money on their squad though.

I do think we are in a rut here of clueless owners who are far too lenient at the moment with what's going on.

[aeropilot]

fourstardan said:

I do think we are in a rut here of clueless owners who are far too lenient at the moment with what's going on.

Its a situation of their (his) own making though.

Potter signed a 5 year contract, imagine what the pay out will be to terminate it after just 9 months...

Might stop Boehly buying Strasboug as well though.......

[bodhi]

fourstardan said:

Never compare Chelsea to Arsenal on this thread around performance, until they win the Champions League twice you shouldn't even bother.

Arsenal never spent ludicrous amounts of money on their squad though.

I do think we are in a rut here of clueless owners who are far too lenient at the moment with what's going on.

Not sure I'd say the previous owner was particularly clueless, but the current guy? Hell yeah.

Still if rumours on social media are to be believed Jose will be back soon - so there's that.

[DaveyBoyWonder]

bodhi said:

Not sure I'd say the previous owner was particularly clueless, but the current guy? Hell yeah.

I read a rumour (pretty sure it was rubbish but funny regardless) that TB bought the club and understood that Chelsea automatically qualify for the Champions League each season.

[smn159]

DaveyBoyWonder said:

bodhi said:

Not sure I'd say the previous owner was particularly clueless, but the current guy? Hell yeah.

I read a rumour (pretty sure it was rubbish but funny regardless) that TB bought the club and understood that Chelsea automatically qualify for the Champions League each season.

I doubt that very much. Due diligence is pretty thorough on these sorts of deals.

Shame that there was no due diligence on his 'buy every player up for sale in the world until the money runs out' approach