The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 13]

[Old Man Fred]

m3sye said:

I imagine that is in the clause too as it was with Neymars - they had to pay it in 1 so they did

But if they were to pay 900m instead of the Buy out of 1bn the clause wouldn't be activated and they could structure the payments as the two clubs agreed, hence the back and forward that we currently have.

I am not saying it categorically won't work, i just don't think it would be a good idea

[Old Man Fred]

Chris Stott said:

Old Man Fred said:

That's not really the case though (my bold) Ronaldo has the highest Buy out in the world, 1 Bn Euros yet there has still been talk the last 2 years of him going to man u.

No way man U could spend €1bn. They already have >£500M of debt.

Just agents playing, and clubs posturing.

snip

That is exactly my point. There is no way they will pay that, but there has been talk of him going back to Man U for years. It doesn't stop speculation

[m3sye]

Old Man Fred said:

But if they were to pay 900m instead of the Buy out of 1bn the clause wouldn't be activated and they could structure the payments as the two clubs agreed, hence the back and forward that we currently have.

I am not saying it categorically won't work, i just don't think it would be a good idea

What do you think the reason all these billion pounds clubs, with execs on millions a pounds a year want them on their star players then?

Or are you saying Pistonhead experts are who they should be listening too

There has to be a reason all top top players are having them put in their contracts when they are renewed....

[Chris Stott]

m3sye said:

Is that not the whole point of them, you wouldn't put one on Mane for 90m it would be paid tmrw

90 would definitely not be enough... it would still make him what, the 3rd most expensive player ever after Neymar and Pogba? But likely fees will increase somewhat over the length of his contract... IMO, 200-250 would be enough to cover transfer inflation over the next 3-5 years.

[type-r]

Anyone know why the Suarez £40m+£1 was not legally binding? Or more to the point, if they are met, then the club still don't have to sell...

I assume in most arrangements it is a figure agreed with player and agent that if met down the line, the club promises to honour the bid that comes in (subject to the player wanting to move there)?

[m3sye]

Chris Stott said:

90 would definitely not be enough... it would still make him what, the 3rd most expensive player ever after Neymar and Pogba? But likely fees will increase somewhat over the length of his contract... IMO, 200-250 would be enough to cover transfer inflation over the next 3-5 years.

You are talking about now - I am talking about 2 years time - we went from 85 to 197m in the blink of an eye, so to go to 200m is anything but far fetched if Mane carries on like he is - he is influencing EVERY game he plays in, with either a goal or assist and pretty much ruining every player he is coming up against....

If you dont believe me ask the best LB in the prem how it was to play against him

[Chris Stott]

m3sye said:

Chris Stott said:

90 would definitely not be enough... it would still make him what, the 3rd most expensive player ever after Neymar and Pogba? But likely fees will increase somewhat over the length of his contract... IMO, 200-250 would be enough to cover transfer inflation over the next 3-5 years.

You are talking about now - I am talking about 2 years time - we went from 85 to 197m in the blink of an eye, so to go to 200m is anything but far fetched if Mane carries on like he is - he is influencing EVERY game he plays in, with either a goal or assist and pretty much ruining every player he is coming up against....

If you dont believe me ask the best LB in the prem how it was to play against him

OK... so we stick a £500M buy out on him... doesn't really matter how much as long as it's an amount you'd be happy to accept if someone met it.

And I agree, he's the most important player in the team at the moment... he'd actually be a better buy for Barca than Coutinho IMO.

[London424]

m3sye said:

Old Man Fred said:

But if they were to pay 900m instead of the Buy out of 1bn the clause wouldn't be activated and they could structure the payments as the two clubs agreed, hence the back and forward that we currently have.

I am not saying it categorically won't work, i just don't think it would be a good idea

What do you think the reason all these billion pounds clubs, with execs on millions a pounds a year want them on their star players then?

Or are you saying Pistonhead experts are who they should be listening too

There has to be a reason all top top players are having them put in their contracts when they are renewed....

They aren't though. They are put on in Spain because they HAVE to have them. No such thing in England (Or most other leagues) so why bother?

[Old Man Fred]

m3sye said:

What do you think the reason all these billion pounds clubs, with execs on millions a pounds a year want them on their star players then?

Or are you saying Pistonhead experts are who they should be listening too

There has to be a reason all top top players are having them put in their contracts when they are renewed....

In spain they are mandatory, i don't know of any other star/top players that have them can you name some (genuinely interested)

I was going to post a list of the top 15 buy out clauses, all from spain, but it doesn't include Isco despite it saying it was valid as of 04/08/2017 so i won't

Seri was very highly regarded and his buy out has just expired and wasn't renewed, he is probably one of the hottest prospects in football at the minute

[HairyPoppins]

A fresh Liverpool thread to while away those dark winter nights on

[m3sye]

London424 said:

They aren't though. They are put on in Spain because they HAVE to have them. No such thing in England (Or most other leagues) so why bother?

Well there we go chaps, that ends that one

So basically English clubs should now be speaking to agents of all top stars who have not renewed a contract in last 2 years - there will be some bargainst to pick up i would imagine

[Dan_1981]

In.

[wjb]

In

But only if the bickering is kept at a minimum.

It got pretty embarrassing in the last thread.

[Chris Stott]

wjb said:

In

But only if the bickering is kept at a minimum.

It got pretty embarrassing in the last thread.

We're only half way down page 2... give it time

[HairyPoppins]

But that's its appeal surely?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

[mr sagman]

For the Pogba is the best player in the PL comment earlier.... He was truly ste for most of last season and only shows up against the crap teams... He was truly awful against us last season and that handball was priceless.. Even the diehard MU fans wanted shut of him until he fluked a deflection in the EL final... Looks flashy but does he ever actually do anything. Maybe I need a pair of them special glasses that ORD owns .

[Ructions]

wjb said:

In

But only if the bickering is kept at a minimum.

It got pretty embarrassing in the last thread.

There is a solution, but the mods don't seem to have the swingers. Post something that a certain precocious poster doesn't agree with on the Game of Thrones thread and it's an instant ban, but certain posters, one who I have my suspicions is actually a Liverpool supporter and a number of Spuds should get a red card and this thread would really be no different to most other football threads. They claim they don't break any rules, but they post bile simply to get a reaction. Mods, do your job.

[Cie]

mr sagman said:

For the Pogba is the best player in the PL comment earlier.... He was truly ste for most of last season and only shows up against the crap teams... He was truly awful against us last season and that handball was priceless.. Even the diehard MU fans wanted shut of him until he fluked a deflection in the EL final... Looks flashy but does he ever actually do anything. Maybe I need a pair of them special glasses that ORD owns .

WTF have I just read? I never knew it was possible to fit so much bullst into one post.

[epom]

Sorry didn't know how to copy over from the other thread. In relation to my post on Moreno. Specific instances of his wrong doing last night ? I'd have to look closer, I did think he was very slow in realizing the danger. for the Uth goal (most likely harsh). He has had many chances, he seems to unbalance everyone else, is it any coincidence Lovren tends to be poor when alongside him ? Why ?
As I've said in my opinion he should be no where near our defence, and if he is we will nothing. He has excellent get up and go and is actually a threat going forward, he also seems to be genuinely interested in putting in a decent shift. My post is not directed at his effort which cannot be faulted.