The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 13]
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m3sye said:
The difference between top top players a lot of time is not just ability its making the right decisions at the right time - we have to many players that switch off far too often - you see Lovren against UTD, gave Lukaku 0 sniff all day, he was pumped you could see the difference, against Spurs polar opposite
mate - you and I could have played CB and not give Lukaku a sniff. Lovren gets little credit for that - 6 touches in our area for the whole game!! JM did the impossible and made our defence look good.Man Utd played boring negative tactics to get a draw, Spurs attacked with pace and in numbers and played to win - that was the difference.
(but I agree with the general point, that there seems to be a lack of concentration)
m3sye said:
Actually it was all 3
Lovren should not have done what he did
Gomez should have been in line
Migs should have stayed
I'm not sure how much blame can be put on Lovren for the first goal. If he's touch-tight he either has to bring Kane down and give away a freekick (probably the best option), or he's going to lose against Kane in a sprint back when the ball gets played into the space behind.Lovren should not have done what he did
Gomez should have been in line
Migs should have stayed
Ideally I would have said the defensive line should have been on the edge of the area, eliminating the space behind and the midfield should have been marking people up for the throw-in. But again, that's not really Lovren's fault, more the system we play.
Ascayman said:
Gomez and the Goalie were more to blame for that goal.
I may be remembering incorrectly but gomez and Matip held the line and Lovren dived forward to 'play offside' on his own.And the goalie was average to poor.
In answer to the question about who would you play at the back
TAA until Clyne returns
Matip
Gomez
Robertson. Maybe Milner.
Ming in goal.
desolate said:
I may be remembering incorrectly but gomez and Matip held the line and Lovren dived forward to 'play offside' on his own.
And the goalie was average to poor.
In answer to the question about who would you play at the back
TAA until Clyne returns
Matip
Gomez
Robertson. Maybe Milner.
Ming in goal.
No gomez wasnt holding the line, if he'd been level with Matip and Loveren then Kane would have been off. Inexcusable given he was looking right down the line. And the goalie was average to poor.
In answer to the question about who would you play at the back
TAA until Clyne returns
Matip
Gomez
Robertson. Maybe Milner.
Ming in goal.
And the goalie killed everyone with what he did.
Ascayman said:
No gomez wasnt holding the line, if he'd been level with Matip and Loveren then Kane would have been off. Inexcusable given he was looking right down the line.
And the goalie killed everyone with what he did.
Wrong - kane was level with Matip - made no difference in reality And the goalie killed everyone with what he did.
m3sye said:
Ascayman said:
No gomez wasnt holding the line, if he'd been level with Matip and Loveren then Kane would have been off. Inexcusable given he was looking right down the line.
And the goalie killed everyone with what he did.
Wrong - kane was level with Matip - made no difference in reality And the goalie killed everyone with what he did.
Ascayman said:
Im going to have to watch the highlights for the 8th time again tonight arent i?
https://www.footbie.com/video/tottenham-vs-liverpool-4-1-highlights-goals-22-10-2017enjoy - you will see Lovren goes far to far forward leaving Kane, even if all 3 were in a line doing that with the right run and ball you are getting caught....
Have a look here: https://streamable.com/s/8sk6r/ncapms
Matip is already forward, Lovren moves forward just before Kane makes his run and it's actually Matip who first calls for offside.
Gomez has no business being that far back as the furthest one from the ball. He should at least be in line with Matip, if not further forward.
Matip is already forward, Lovren moves forward just before Kane makes his run and it's actually Matip who first calls for offside.
Gomez has no business being that far back as the furthest one from the ball. He should at least be in line with Matip, if not further forward.
This is a better video, has replays from 45s on. Gomez is just about to step up when the ball is played.
http://footyroom.com/matches/79940594/tottenham-ho...
http://footyroom.com/matches/79940594/tottenham-ho...
jammy-git said:
This is a better video, has replays from 45s on. Gomez is just about to step up when the ball is played.
http://footyroom.com/matches/79940594/tottenham-ho...
I am no football coach but in that clip I see Lovren playing like a headless chicken, a job normally reserved for Moreno.http://footyroom.com/matches/79940594/tottenham-ho...
jammy-git said:
Have a look here: https://streamable.com/s/8sk6r/ncapms
Matip is already forward, Lovren moves forward just before Kane makes his run and it's actually Matip who first calls for offside.
Gomez has no business being that far back as the furthest one from the ball. He should at least be in line with Matip, if not further forward.
He makes 0 difference though, kane is in line with Matip, so its irrelevant if Gomez is behind him or not, lovren should not be ahead of Matip and Gomez should not be behind matip but in reality kane was level with Matip at the time the ball was played... Matip is already forward, Lovren moves forward just before Kane makes his run and it's actually Matip who first calls for offside.
Gomez has no business being that far back as the furthest one from the ball. He should at least be in line with Matip, if not further forward.
desolate said:
I am no football coach but in that clip I see Lovren playing like a headless chicken, a job normally reserved for Moreno.
He is... he did anything but defend as a CB - blaming Gomez is madness, yes he was further back but he didnt play him on Matip did...Lovren's effort at keeping with Kane reminded me of something from a field on Sunday....
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