The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

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uk66fastback

16,544 posts

271 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42668562

Report says he'd rather go to City ... I'm not sure you need him anyway.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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GTO-3R said:
As far as I’m aware, City have offered him a deal at the end of the season and a signing bonus etc but Arsenal will want to get something for him and if we were to offer an amount for him I’d imagine they would accept it (if Sanchez does too).
All the talk is that City are prepared to pay £20m, so it’s a Jan deal for them too.

GTO-3R

7,481 posts

213 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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I thought the 20m was a bonus for him to sign and the didn’t want to sign him in jan and upset the balance in the team? I’ve no idea what going on so just have to wait and see. Hope we sign him though, he’s a class act.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Typical PL purchase. He’s there and obvious so must be worth big money. Do clubs even have scouts anymore?

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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GTO-3R said:
I thought the 20m was a bonus for him to sign and the didn’t want to sign him in jan and upset the balance in the team? I’ve no idea what going on so just have to wait and see. Hope we sign him though, he’s a class act.
Nope that’s City’s offer to Arsenal. We’ve offered £35m apparently. Stupid money for someone who’s free in a few months.

Wombat3

12,160 posts

206 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Gavia said:
GTO-3R said:
I thought the 20m was a bonus for him to sign and the didn’t want to sign him in jan and upset the balance in the team? I’ve no idea what going on so just have to wait and see. Hope we sign him though, he’s a class act.
Nope that’s City’s offer to Arsenal. We’ve offered £35m apparently. Stupid money for someone who’s free in a few months.
It depends, if he signs a big/long contract then 35M for a player of that quality is extremely cheap. Where his contract is with the Goons is irrelevant.

How much are you going to have to pay for a player like that next summer unless its on a free ? (in which case it isn't really free because you are going to be bidding for a massive signing on bonus & a huge wage instead of a transfer fee).

If we can get him for that now then in the long term its probably very good business & cash in the bank earns you nothing these days.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Wombat3 said:
It depends, if he signs a big/long contract then 35M for a player of that quality is extremely cheap. Where his contract is with the Goons is irrelevant.

How much are you going to have to pay for a player like that next summer unless its on a free ? (in which case it isn't really free because you are going to be bidding for a massive signing on bonus & a huge wage instead of a transfer fee).

If we can get him for that now then in the long term its probably very good business & cash in the bank earns you nothing these days.
He’s just turned 29, he’s got this (5 year) contract and then it’ll be 12 month extensions, or let go. The figure is daft though, it effectively means that even a contract at its death and at the point where a player can sign a deal with their new club, still has a huge transfer value, which makes no commercial sense.

Özil gone very quiet too. Has he signed a precontract with someone?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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In a world where an average defender is 75m and fullbacks are 50m, 35m for Sanchez is a bargain, couldn't give a fk about the length of his contract.

GTO-3R

7,481 posts

213 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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anonymous said:
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This 100%. Get the deal done now and don’t linger on it. 35m would be a steal for him and what he will bring to the team. He’s a nigh on 80-90m player ordinarily imo.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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GTO-3R said:
This 100%. Get the deal done now and don’t linger on it. 35m would be a steal for him and what he will bring to the team. He’s a nigh on 80-90m player ordinarily imo.
yes

I'm still very dubious about it actually happening, but at the price quoted it gets filed under 'no brainer'

The league 'may' be out of reach but there are still Cups to play for, plus he's an actual honest to goodness winger worthy of the 7

A front 3 of Martial Lingard and Sanchez playing off Lukaku sperm

Still think he'll go City though

RoadRunner220

945 posts

193 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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I'm slightly dubious about our Sanchez interest. Arsenal want £35m but City only want to pay £20m. What better way to force Citys hand into upping their bid than a rumour about their local rivals attempting to hijack the deal with a better offer at the last minute.

Still, he'd improve our team so I wouldn't mind if it wasn't just a rumour.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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RoadRunner220 said:
I'm slightly dubious about our Sanchez interest. Arsenal want £35m but City only want to pay £20m. What better way to force Citys hand into upping their bid than a rumour about their local rivals attempting to hijack the deal with a better offer at the last minute.

Still, he'd improve our team so I wouldn't mind if it wasn't just a rumour.
It’s still peanuts to a State sponsored team.

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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City won't up their offer any more than 20 million, because they know the player really wants to go there and play for Pep.

Not bothered either way because Jesus will be fit in 2/3 weeks.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
City won't up their offer any more than 20 million, because they know the player really wants to go there and play for Pep.

Not bothered either way because Jesus will be fit in 2/3 weeks.
Why though? Didn't Pep fk him over at Barca? Hence him leaving?

I think this is why you have cooled, you have an abundance of attackers as it is

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

95 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
City won't up their offer any more than 20 million, because they know the player really wants to go there and play for Pep.

Not bothered either way because Jesus will be fit in 2/3 weeks.
Really, I thought Jesus would be back in 2/3 days?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
Wacky Racer said:
City won't up their offer any more than 20 million, because they know the player really wants to go there and play for Pep.

Not bothered either way because Jesus will be fit in 2/3 weeks.
Really, I thought Jesus would be back in 2/3 days?
Jesus is always with us.

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
Wacky Racer said:
City won't up their offer any more than 20 million, because they know the player really wants to go there and play for Pep.

Not bothered either way because Jesus will be fit in 2/3 weeks.
Really, I thought Jesus would be back in 2/3 days?
From BBC website:-

French side Paris St-Germain have also been linked with the Chile forward but Sanchez's preference is to join Manchester City.

However, given Gabriel Jesus' knee injury is now not as bad as initially feared - City boss Pep Guardiola said on Thursday the Brazil forward could be back in action "in two or three weeks" - the club do not view such a huge outlay on a player who would be available for nothing in the summer as being worthwhile.

City also feel the player is determined to leave Arsenal come what may this month, so their stance could lead to him joining a rival club.

Guardiola would not be drawn on his interest in Sanchez at Friday's news conference before their trip to Liverpool on Sunday.

He said: "I don't answer. I understand the question, you do your job, you know my answer. I'm focused on Liverpool."


uk66fastback

16,544 posts

271 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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So what's the situation if City offer 'only £20m' but Utd offer more, maybe £35m - he's still under contract so if he wants to go to City and Arsenal won't sell for City's offer but would for Utd's - then he might pay the difference himself - £15m? Really?

Or he stays at Arsenal ... who don't have to sell him.

Modern footy eh?

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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uk66fastback said:
So what's the situation if City offer 'only £20m' but Utd offer more, maybe £35m - he's still under contract so if he wants to go to City and Arsenal won't sell for City's offer but would for Utd's - then he might pay the difference himself - £15m? Really?

Or he stays at Arsenal ... who don't have to sell him.

Modern footy eh?
He doesn’t have to go anywhere. He can run his contract down and the sign for whoever he wants for free.

Back in the 90s there was a brilliant film (very subjective) called The Last Boy Scout, a throwaway line was “goddamn free agents, ruined the goddamn game” aimed at Damon Wayans’ character. Still remember it now and how true it is about PL football. It’s worth noting the similarities between the games and how the PL could head down the same route. Took American Football about 15 years to recover from their free agent problems and they had the draft and salary caps to help them.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Football has had ‘free agents’ for a very, very long and it has done no harm. Clubs either get players on long term contracts or they don’t. If they don’t, they face the problem that Arsenal now have with Sanchez.
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