The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

[Ascayman]

m3sye said:

Of course..but let's be honest I think you are well aware if we get a decent keeper we would be better
Seeing as you drum on about them being the 2 weakest in the prem?

Drum on? i said that once and its pretty hard to argue with to be fair.

I've said before, there's not a great deal between utd/liverpool/spurs and chelsea.

[Adam B]

ORD said:

If only we had a delusional Scouser on this very thread to make my point for me... Maybe even just one post above this one...

not sure what is delusional about saying Liverpool "will we be as good as any of the other chasing teams" which is actually saying we won't win the league

the other comment, while factually correct, is a bit daft as every team could make a similar "if only" comment

[Gavia]

Stoke have appointed Paul Lambert as their new manager. He doesn’t take over until tomorrow, so they remain technically managerless tonight, but no doubt the players will be keen to impress the new boss in the stands.

Not sure how he’s blagged that job, with his track record though, unless Stoke have decided the championship is where they’d rather be playing next season.

[Gavia]

Giggs confirmed as Wales Manager! Wonder if he’ll bother turning up for friendlies

[Alpinestars]

Adam B said:

I think you're the only person who has ever said that, we just won a big game and are rightly celebrating. We are not Spurs asking for a cup for winning December or the highest tier on our stadium

It's not that hard to understand surely?

Liverpool are a lot more entertaining to watch because we focus on attack and don't have the best defense. Meaning lots of goals at either end, but clangers which cost us points. Great fun for the neutral.

Utd have JM who tends to focus on defense especially against the better teams which leads to a duller watching experience, but Utd have some very good players so this method can be highly effective in gathering points.

To be honest I'd like Klopp to adopt a little (note a little) bit of JM's pragamtism, eg not swap keepers when playing the league leaders and learning how to see out a game when you are ahead.

Edited by Adam B on Monday 15th January 10:30

Sensible post again. And I'd like us to be more adventurous, especially in the big games. We genuinely have the players who can do what you did to City, but JM has a different MO to Klott. I won't say it often, but hats off for beating City.

[ORD]

Alpinestars said:

Adam B said:

I think you're the only person who has ever said that, we just won a big game and are rightly celebrating. We are not Spurs asking for a cup for winning December or the highest tier on our stadium

It's not that hard to understand surely?

Liverpool are a lot more entertaining to watch because we focus on attack and don't have the best defense. Meaning lots of goals at either end, but clangers which cost us points. Great fun for the neutral.

Utd have JM who tends to focus on defense especially against the better teams which leads to a duller watching experience, but Utd have some very good players so this method can be highly effective in gathering points.

To be honest I'd like Klopp to adopt a little (note a little) bit of JM's pragamtism, eg not swap keepers when playing the league leaders and learning how to see out a game when you are ahead.

Edited by Adam B on Monday 15th January 10:30

Sensible post again. And I'd like us to be more adventurous, especially in the big games. We genuinely have the players who can do what you did to City, but JM has a different MO to Klott. I won't say it often, but hats off for beating City.

I agree with all of that.

Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool are of about the same standard, in my opinion.

I also think Mou has to reconsider his approach to playing other big sides. It just is not working for him in terms of points won, even putting to one side the damage it does to his standing with fans.

[mickk]

Gavia said:

Giggs confirmed as Wales Manager! Wonder if he’ll bother turning up for friendlies

First job in management, that's mental.

[Ascayman]

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Its an odd choice for him isnt it? he seems to have missed out on several club jobs and would appear to have taken this out of desperation. Whats success for him in this job? realistically they aren't going to do any better that semi finals in a major tournament, added to that their two best players are permanently injured.

Strange one.

[London424]

Ascayman said:

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Its an odd choice for him isnt it? he seems to have missed out on several club jobs and would appear to have taken this out of desperation. Whats success for him in this job? realistically they aren't going to do any better that semi finals in a major tournament, added to that their two best players are permanently injured.

Strange one.

It's a fairly safe dip into the management pond though isn't it? Only a handful of games a year. If you don't qualify for 1 tournament it's no different to most years in the past. Pretty much guaranteed job for 3-4 years.

[Zoon]

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Second. Don't forget his first was managing United.

[Ascayman]

London424 said:

Ascayman said:

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Its an odd choice for him isnt it? he seems to have missed out on several club jobs and would appear to have taken this out of desperation. Whats success for him in this job? realistically they aren't going to do any better that semi finals in a major tournament, added to that their two best players are permanently injured.

Strange one.

It's a fairly safe dip into the management pond though isn't it? Only a handful of games a year. If you don't qualify for 1 tournament it's no different to most years in the past. Pretty much guaranteed job for 3-4 years.

I dont think it is, only way is down really. Plus like you say its 3-4 years out of proper management which judging by the number of interviews he's been to in the last few years you have to assume is where here really wanted to be.

I

[mickk]

Zoon said:

Second. Don't forget his first was managing United.

Under the guidance of Van Gaal.

[London424]

Ascayman said:

London424 said:

Ascayman said:

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Its an odd choice for him isnt it? he seems to have missed out on several club jobs and would appear to have taken this out of desperation. Whats success for him in this job? realistically they aren't going to do any better that semi finals in a major tournament, added to that their two best players are permanently injured.

Strange one.

It's a fairly safe dip into the management pond though isn't it? Only a handful of games a year. If you don't qualify for 1 tournament it's no different to most years in the past. Pretty much guaranteed job for 3-4 years.

I dont think it is, only way is down really. Plus like you say its 3-4 years out of proper management which judging by the number of interviews he's been to in the last few years you have to assume is where here really wanted to be.

I

Not sure. Euro 2016 is long forgotten now they've failed to qualify for the WC. Only way is back up again or more of the same non-qualification.

He's doing really badly if he want's a club job, he wants a big job which no-one is going to give him without experience. He can give Wales a go, if he succeeds he might get one of the bigger Prem jobs if/when they come up. If he fails he'll still be offered the dross he's been offered so far.

[Adam B]

ORD said:

I agree with all of that.

Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool are of about the same standard, in my opinion.

Spurs too surely (however irritating they are on here!)

Arsenal have slipped away badly, and will get worse when Ozil/Sanchez leave.

Any of the rest can have a good season and make a challenge (Liverpool 13/14, Spurs 16/17), with City/Utd/Chelsea having the financial clout to regularly challenge - would be great to have an occasional Leicester-type wild card but that truly was unusual

Edited by Adam B on Monday 15th January 14:30

[Zoon]

mickk said:

Under the guidance of Van Gaal.

No, with Moyes, then on his own, then as an assistant to Van Gaal.

[Challo]

London424 said:

Ascayman said:

London424 said:

Ascayman said:

mickk said:

First job in management, that's mental.

Its an odd choice for him isnt it? he seems to have missed out on several club jobs and would appear to have taken this out of desperation. Whats success for him in this job? realistically they aren't going to do any better that semi finals in a major tournament, added to that their two best players are permanently injured.

Strange one.

It's a fairly safe dip into the management pond though isn't it? Only a handful of games a year. If you don't qualify for 1 tournament it's no different to most years in the past. Pretty much guaranteed job for 3-4 years.

I dont think it is, only way is down really. Plus like you say its 3-4 years out of proper management which judging by the number of interviews he's been to in the last few years you have to assume is where here really wanted to be.

I

Not sure. Euro 2016 is long forgotten now they've failed to qualify for the WC. Only way is back up again or more of the same non-qualification.

He's doing really badly if he want's a club job, he wants a big job which no-one is going to give him without experience. He can give Wales a go, if he succeeds he might get one of the bigger Prem jobs if/when they come up. If he fails he'll still be offered the dross he's been offered so far.

I have the feeling he wanted a job in the prem but like you say no-one is going to give him a job just yet. Alot of managers cut their teeth at International level rather than go down the leagues so lets see how it goes. Judging by some of the comments on twitter alot of people dont want him. Never bothered much about international football or wales much when he was a player. I think some wanted Bellamy.

[mickk]

Zoon said:

mickk said:

Under the guidance of Van Gaal.

No, with Moyes, then on his own, then as an assistant to Van Gaal.

No wonder he's been chosen to be an International manager with that background!

As I said, mental.

[Wombat3]

mickk said:

Zoon said:

mickk said:

Under the guidance of Van Gaal.

No, with Moyes, then on his own, then as an assistant to Van Gaal.

No wonder he's been chosen to be an International manager with that background!

As I said, mental.

Speaking of mental...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/louis-van-gaa...

Just WTF is wrong with the man? He did a st job & got sacked for it!

[anonymous-user]

Wombat3 said:

Speaking of mental...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/louis-van-gaa...

Just WTF is wrong with the man? He did a st job & got sacked for it!

Nutter

Did anyone see Souness accuse us of tapping up Sanchez last night as well? Another Nutter

[NRS]

Wombat3 said:

Speaking of mental...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/louis-van-gaa...

Just WTF is wrong with the man? He did a st job & got sacked for it!

Bizarre... that sounds like it comes from a spoof website with those quotes!