The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]
Discussion
anniesdad said:
Nobody's kicked a ball in anger yet and people are having a pop at Mourinho already. Whatever you think of him, he's box office and at the biggest football club in the world. I'm inclined to believe that he'll get it right (win the prem or ECL) but to expect him to do so straight away is naive in the extreme. He's keeping everybody, including Ed, on their toes.
Sure I'd like him to smile in public more, but I do see the pics of them in training where he's smiling and I hear that he's pretty happy with his lot. It's pretty clear at least to me that the pressers are some of the least enjoyable aspects of his job.
Well said i'm happy with our squad and even if we don't get Maguire or Willian we have a squad capable of winning the league as we proved when we beat City in their own back yard followed by Liverpool Chelsea and Arsenal, bring it on cannot waitSure I'd like him to smile in public more, but I do see the pics of them in training where he's smiling and I hear that he's pretty happy with his lot. It's pretty clear at least to me that the pressers are some of the least enjoyable aspects of his job.
Wings said:
Martial, Shaw, Sanchez and Pogba are all not the same players they were when first arriving at Utd, they either need to find new clubs, or remove the negative, miserable control freak manager, that those same players don't appear to want to play for.
If Jose managed to get this United squad to finish second in the league, how s
te must the rest be?200Plus Club said:
Ascayman said:
You didn't win anything either....
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
I've never actually criticised his style at UTD unlike others, winning or not. He's very effective. "If it wasn't for those pesky kids" we gathered enough points last year to have won the league in many seasons, he got more than Fergie did in some of his winning years.The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
There are very few managers upto the task of managing Utd, he is, and I'm happy with him. If in 2 or 3 years we haven't uplifted this squad and started to get close to the league again then maybe his time and chance will be up. Till then we should get behind him and the team and back them 100%
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
I see you’ve ignored Arsenal, looks like the bitterness runs deep in North LondonThe point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
Of course Chelsea don’t want him, he’s been there twice and they’ve dispensed with him and other title / Cup winning managers almost immediately.
City wouldn’t want anyone but their current title winning manager
Why would you or Liverpool say you wanted him? That would undermine all your arguments. Plus managers don’t move between United and Liverpool anyway.
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
The answer is no. But I'd only take Pep the other way from your list at the moment. The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
Black can man said:
Jose certainly isn't.
I'm hoping spurs actually do something (sign a player, move into the stadium, win something /anything) so that you've got something to talk about on your own teams thread for once instead of polluting every other top teams.Ever the Jack in a box you aren't you lol
Gavia said:
And here come the WUMs. As much as I’m not keen on Mourinho he does clearly worry other teams fans who have to take every opportunity to have a dig. Unless you’re a City fan, then our st manager is better than your amazing one, as we finished above you in the PL last year.
First of all what does WUM stand for?t manager is better than your amazing one, as we finished above you in the PL last year. I can honesty say I haden't got any anti-Manchester United agenda when I posted that previous comment, in relation to the money he's spent I just don't think he's been that good. I'm an Arsenal fan and was always criticising Wenger in the last 6 or 7 years and will do this current manager if I think the Arsenal fan isn't getting vfm.
Klopp seems like he's moved Liverpool forward likewise Poch at Spurs and obviously Pep is doing a good job at City.
Gavia said:
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
I see you’ve ignored Arsenal, looks like the bitterness runs deep in North LondonThe point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
Of course Chelsea don’t want him, he’s been there twice and they’ve dispensed with him and other title / Cup winning managers almost immediately.
City wouldn’t want anyone but their current title winning manager
Why would you or Liverpool say you wanted him? That would undermine all your arguments. Plus managers don’t move between United and Liverpool anyway.
It doesn't undermine anything. You won't find any Liverpool or Tottenham fan that would swap. So the hints at jealousy from others is very wide of the mark.
200Plus Club said:
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
I've never actually criticised his style at UTD unlike others, winning or not. He's very effective. "If it wasn't for those pesky kids" we gathered enough points last year to have won the league in many seasons, he got more than Fergie did in some of his winning years.The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
There are very few managers upto the task of managing Utd, he is, and I'm happy with him. If in 2 or 3 years we haven't uplifted this squad and started to get close to the league again then maybe his time and chance will be up. Till then we should get behind him and the team and back them 100%
Good luck for the season though genuinely.
Gone a bit AMG said:
Ascayman said:
No one has ever said otherwise, he's incredibly effective.
The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
The answer is no. But I'd only take Pep the other way from your list at the moment. The point was that the brand of football he plays is unbearable when you're not winning shiny things.
A few were dressing it up as jealousy I was just saying that I honestly don't think Liverpool, spurs , city or Chelsea would swap manager do you disagree then?
It's a genuine question there's no need for the bitterness.
Ascayman said:
Again fair points. Ive said before my biggest fear is that utd will come after poch he's perfect fit utd imo. So hopefully you guys continue to be happy with Jose
His style of play is definitely what we’d want, but he needs proof that he can win things. If he had that then I think he’d be at the Bernabeu now though. Ascayman said:
Again fair points. Ive said before my biggest fear is that utd will come after poch he's perfect fit utd imo. So hopefully you guys continue to be happy with Jose
His style of play is definitely what we’d want, but he needs proof that he can win things. If he had that then I think he’d be at the Bernabeu now though. It needs someone used to winning and winning big for sure. That's why moyes was a disaster, (albeit well intentioned by Sir Alex).
If and when the time eventually comes I currently have no idea who could do it well other than Pep perhaps.
For now we should all remember Fergies reign was terrible to start with, Jose has set off better than he did. Things have changed yes but us fans still expect trophies at the end of the day and we've already had a taste with him unlike many other clubs around.
If and when the time eventually comes I currently have no idea who could do it well other than Pep perhaps.
For now we should all remember Fergies reign was terrible to start with, Jose has set off better than he did. Things have changed yes but us fans still expect trophies at the end of the day and we've already had a taste with him unlike many other clubs around.
200Plus Club said:
It needs someone used to winning and winning big for sure. That's why moyes was a disaster, (albeit well intentioned by Sir Alex).
If and when the time eventually comes I currently have no idea who could do it well other than Pep perhaps.
For now we should all remember Fergies reign was terrible to start with, Jose has set off better than he did. Things have changed yes but us fans still expect trophies at the end of the day and we've already had a taste with him unlike many other clubs around.
You can’t compre SAF’s start to Mourinho’s. Not only is the game completely different but the make up of the club, expectations and recent history are as far removed as they possibly could be. If and when the time eventually comes I currently have no idea who could do it well other than Pep perhaps.
For now we should all remember Fergies reign was terrible to start with, Jose has set off better than he did. Things have changed yes but us fans still expect trophies at the end of the day and we've already had a taste with him unlike many other clubs around.
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