The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

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m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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I just find it odd, he hates the press so why give them more ammunition - things are not going right for him with transfers/woodward so why then publically call out your captain as overweight - can he only get these players to listen to him if he goes public or something?

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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m3sye said:
I just find it odd, he hates the press so why give them more ammunition - things are not going right for him with transfers/woodward so why then publically call out your captain as overweight - can he only get these players to listen to him if he goes public or something?
You’re the one who’s suddenly decided to jump on tje Valencia comment. I didn’t even see it in the press. Why the obsession with irrelevances?

GTO-3R

7,523 posts

214 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Gavia said:
RobDickinson said:
m3sye said:
Does he need to do that in public though - why not just pull him in a meeting and deal with it
If you had a boss that publicly shat on you like that you would leave.
First three links about Klopp. st manager obviously, unrest in the squad, guess they’re all leaving

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2018/01/30/klopp-bl...

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/jurgen-klopp-bl...

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/article/200...
No no it's just Jose that does it.

I don't give a st what the papers are saying, the squad all look to be enjoying their time in training along with Jose. I just think he likes to wind the media up!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Jose runs the team down all the time, he does it at every club, the players eventually get pissed off at it and stop performing.

but good luck with that biggrin

Black can man

31,882 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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200Plus Club said:
I'm hoping spurs actually do something (sign a player, move into the stadium, win something /anything) so that you've got something to talk about on your own teams thread for once instead of polluting every other top teams.
Ever the Jack in a box you aren't you lol
We’ll surely we're all her for a giggle aren’t we ?

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Black can man said:
We’ll surely we're all her for a giggle aren’t we ?
I thought we had an agreement.

200Plus Club

10,815 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Gavia said:
I thought we had an agreement.
You'd agreed he was an annoyance already? I wasn't aware lol

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Gavia said:
You’re the one who’s suddenly decided to jump on tje Valencia comment. I didn’t even see it in the press. Why the obsession with irrelevances?
Just because you didn't see it in the press doesn't mean it didn't happen - Plenty of people did see it, it was all over the net.

I just found it very odd that he would call out the Captain publically - if you and UTD fans find it fine, then fine, its a forum though its meant to be used for discussing things.

Like when Ascay put an opinion in yesterday you jumped all over him - are only UTD fans allowed an opinion? remember this is PH not RedCafe

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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All I was trying to get at is Jose is taking some flack at the moment - from the outside even with UTD fans there seems a lot of unrest, so at the time he has a squad of what he calls 'not his players' you would want 'your players' with you more than ever ?
Just seemed to give people more ammunition, which at the moment you dont need.

Black can man

31,882 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Gavia said:
Black can man said:
We’ll surely we're all her for a giggle aren’t we ?
I thought we had an agreement.
Yes we did , but it’s just been to funny in here as of late.

Feel free to pop over to the Harmony thread.

Are we having another wager this year ?

Black can man

31,882 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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200Plus Club said:
You'd agreed he was an annoyance already? I wasn't aware lol
Pah .. you newbies eh !


Gone a bit AMG

6,746 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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m3sye said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
criticised Valencia for coming back overweight.

Fair shout for me. There are those on here that lept on Shaw and Rooney for apparently being overweight. Jose should be able to trust his captain to lead by example.
Does he need to do that in public though - why not just pull him in a meeting and deal with it
If he's asked the question in a press conference and he wants to send a message he's going to answer it doing just that. Its not necessarily something I like but it's his style.

The interviews Shaw has given on the tour, who's Had more stick from Jose than anyone else have been really interesting. Instead of spitting his dummy he's acknowledged the criticism was fair and done something about it. And a key point was that the public only read the press. They don't get to see and hear the encouragement behind the scenes.


200Plus Club

10,815 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Tbh I can take or leave the football threads sometimes lol. Its really suprised me the negativity from our own fans at times, it's not like we've not won 3 trophies, finished second and just spent £75m on new blood lol :-)

I'm sure there are lots of ups n downs to come next week and this season. I don't really know who has the best chance of stopping city but it's down to 4 teams at best I think. We'll be there or thereabouts even if they play like last season and don't improve overall.

200Plus Club

10,815 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Its the instant hit of big money and chopping and changing managers that's spoiled fans. No one has patience any more. Throw in endless media news/rumourmongering and people get too twitchy too soon. It takes time for a manager to change things even with an unlimited budget like Peps had.

Gone a bit AMG

6,746 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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m3sye said:
Just because you didn't see it in the press doesn't mean it didn't happen - Plenty of people did see it, it was all over the net.

I just found it very odd that he would call out the Captain publically - if you and UTD fans find it fine, then fine, its a forum though its meant to be used for discussing things.

Like when Ascay put an opinion in yesterday you jumped all over him - are only UTD fans allowed an opinion? remember this is PH not RedCafe
Do you think that Valencia is some kind of delicate wallflower or something?

All he said was he had too much holiday and his condition was not good, then injured so sent him back.

What a load of old st all this nonsense is. Is he not even allowed to comment that his player has perhaps enjoyed their break a bit too much?

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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200Plus Club said:
Its the instant hit of big money and chopping and changing managers that's spoiled fans. No one has patience any more. Throw in endless media news/rumourmongering and people get too twitchy too soon. It takes time for a manager to change things even with an unlimited budget like Peps had.
i still think you will add 2 players and be fine tbh

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Mourinhos next press conference “everything is perfect, we all love each other, all the players are happy and i can’t stop smiling”

WUMs on here “arrogant prick, hope he fails”

No point even discussing it. Whatever Mourinho does will be the opposite of what they think he should be doing and what their perfect manager does every minute of every hour of every day all year round

57Ford

4,102 posts

135 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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franki68

10,452 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Woodward wants to turn united into the Harlem globetrotters of football , and do it by running the club like a business ,the football aspect is not really their priority,New York yankees have shown the owners you don’t need to win stuff to be commercially succesful
As I understand it several of the signings made under Jose were not his choice ,they were signed because they were a cheaper option.
He has been told to sell before buying but they are struggling to sell because mediocre players on are double or more what they are actually worth ,for example some reserve players are on more than other teams best players .
For all the earnings the club still has serious debt and I think Jose is fully in his rights to come out and address the issue.
He is a nob for the constant criticising of players though ,I fail to see a single benefit that brings .

As a final thought watch the United ‘rondo’ training session and tell me if you still think we have a great squad who he doesn’t get the best out of.
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