The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

The Official Manchester United Thread [vol 7]

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franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
Really ?

uk66fastback

16,565 posts

272 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
And how have you come by that info Alpine?

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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franki68 said:
Bit confused about the last para but based on what I think you are saying I have to disagree ,if a manager says his priority is say a new centre half and say a left winger is his 5th priority but the club go and buy a left winger surely there is an issue there ?
He means if there are 4 or 5 names on the list for a LB and JOSE ok's them all but you can only get the name 4th down on the list that should be fine as he has ok'd the names.


franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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uk66fastback said:
I thought Maureen would give a list of players for THE ONE POSITION? And have three or four choices FOR THAT POSITION ...

It's surely a bit daft having ONE target for ONE position - and then not getting them - that's just called bad planning!
Alright ,pipe down shouty person .

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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uk66fastback said:
I thought Maureen would give a list of players for THE ONE POSITION? And have three or four choices FOR THAT POSITION ...

It's surely a bit daft having ONE target for ONE position - and then not getting them - that's just called bad planning!
TBH Klopp must be bloody good at convincing players to move as he has got everyone one of his 1st choices - and if they were not available at that time he has waited rather than buying 'next on the list'

uk66fastback

16,565 posts

272 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Sorry - easier to type in caps than put all the emphasis stuff in

franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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m3sye said:
franki68 said:
Bit confused about the last para but based on what I think you are saying I have to disagree ,if a manager says his priority is say a new centre half and say a left winger is his 5th priority but the club go and buy a left winger surely there is an issue there ?
He means if there are 4 or 5 names on the list for a LB and JOSE ok's them all but you can only get the name 4th down on the list that should be fine as he has ok'd the names.
I know but that wasn’t what I was talking about hence why it was confusing .

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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franki68 said:
Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
Really ?
Yep. He was dead man walking after the CB debacle in the summer. He wasn’t being entirely genuine about the position and that was into “last straw” territory for the Glazers.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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uk66fastback said:
Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
And how have you come by that info Alpine?
That’s a silly question wink.

bstb3

4,085 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Is that 'decision' in an imminent sense or in a 'if it goes crap for rest of season' sense?

Not sure what to think on the Zidane side. He's clearly done very well at Madrid to keep the house in order and of course winning 3 CL on the bounce is no mean feat, but I can't get away from the fact he also had world class players at the top of their game. Is he capable of rebuilding broken players and replacing the incapable ones?

At least he speaks the lingo of most of them - just the few UK ones that might have issues until he learned, but then no shortage of translators in the squad (as long as he picks the right ones).

Zidane: "defend in more numbers" in French. Translate that for me Paul
Pogba: "he says to attack.."


franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Alpinestars said:
franki68 said:
Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
Really ?
Yep. He was dead man walking after the CB debacle in the summer. He wasn’t being entirely genuine about the position and that was into “last straw” territory for the Glazers.
[Runs to bookies]

GTO-3R

7,486 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Jose is 4/5 with SkyBet to go...

franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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It will cost a ridiculous amount to sack him ,how long is left on his contract ?

GTO-3R

7,486 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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franki68 said:
It will cost a ridiculous amount to sack him ,how long is left on his contract ?
It will cost more if we don't get CL football....

KillianB4

150 posts

112 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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bstb3 said:
Is that 'decision' in an imminent sense or in a 'if it goes crap for rest of season' sense?

Not sure what to think on the Zidane side. He's clearly done very well at Madrid to keep the house in order and of course winning 3 CL on the bounce is no mean feat, but I can't get away from the fact he also had world class players at the top of their game. Is he capable of rebuilding broken players and replacing the incapable ones?

At least he speaks the lingo of most of them - just the few UK ones that might have issues until he learned, but then no shortage of translators in the squad (as long as he picks the right ones).

Zidane: "defend in more numbers" in French. Translate that for me Paul
Pogba: "he says to attack.."
I agree, my thoughts on Zidane have always been that I'm not quite sure how good a manager, or more specifically a tactician he is. Inherited a world class squad. Can't take away from the 3 CLs on the bounce obviously but his tenure at Madrid was still shaky at times. But I feel like he's someone the players would respond to and want to play for - and that's what United currently need imo. The Madrid lads all looked up to him as a true legend of the game and wanted to perform for him. How can it feel to be working with mopey Maureen all the time? The atmosphere can't be good. Hence the performances.

KillianB4

150 posts

112 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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GTO-3R said:
Jose is 4/5 with SkyBet to go...
Didn't Paddy Power pay out on him to be sacked a few weeks ago even?

Zidane 4/6 to be next Utd boss on BetVictor, 8/13 on Paddy Power

epom

11,543 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Roy Hodgson has been quoted as saying he'd love to work with Sanchez, Pogba et al.


franki68

10,404 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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GTO-3R said:
franki68 said:
It will cost a ridiculous amount to sack him ,how long is left on his contract ?
It will cost more if we don't get CL football....
I’m not sure ,Jose is on nearly as much as alpinestars , if he has 3 years remaining it could cost 45m.

Challo

10,158 posts

156 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Alpinestars said:
uk66fastback said:
Alpinestars said:
I think the decision has been made....

Don’t know who the replacement is.
And how have you come by that info Alpine?
That’s a silly question wink.
I have a friend who works at the club said it was rumours he was going on Sunday. When it didn't happen i thought it was all bks.

bstb3

4,085 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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GTO-3R said:
franki68 said:
It will cost a ridiculous amount to sack him ,how long is left on his contract ?
It will cost more if we don't get CL football....
Well he signed an extension in Jan that takes him to the end of the 2020 season, with an option for one more year. So effectively 2 season (this and next), plus one more optional. IIRC somewhere I read he was on around £250k/week (I know its a complete guess), so you are looking around £20-25m to pay that off, before worrying about the optional year and any bonus / termination agreements.

CL football per season is worth more than that as GTO-3R mentions - but you also have to factor in what we would need to pay his replacement on top of JM termination deal. Then the numbers start to get closer and if you consider that CL qualification cash is already down the pan (it's not, but the longer things carry on the way they are it could be by November) then the purely financial incentive for pushing him out diminishes.
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