Will VAR Change Football for the Better?

Will VAR Change Football for the Better?

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G-wiz

2,151 posts

26 months

Wednesday 16th March 2022
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pavarotti1980 said:
I watched the Man U game last night and Fernandes and Ronaldo were berating the ref for decisions but not a single thing was done. They need to grow a pair and start sending players off for this type of st. It would soon stop
To be fair, the ref was a complete tt.

pavarotti1980

4,896 posts

84 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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G-wiz said:
To be fair, the ref was a complete tt.
He was strange but doing glasses gestures and screaming in his face is not acceptable. Just send the moaning entitled little pricks off instead.

unident

6,702 posts

51 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Another shocker of a decision in the Everton game, although it seemed to galvanise them. Never a red card in a million years, even more bizarre when you look at what Havertz got away with last week bs Newcastle.

johnboy1975

8,399 posts

108 months

Friday 18th March 2022
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unident said:
Another shocker of a decision in the Everton game, although it seemed to galvanise them. Never a red card in a million years, even more bizarre when you look at what Havertz got away with last week bs Newcastle.
Borderline red, but as per earlier discussion, certainly not clear and obvious. I thought they were checking for the push on Gordon, which I did feel merited a pen, but I only saw it once, so could be persuaded otherwise.



48k

13,082 posts

148 months

Friday 18th March 2022
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unident said:
Another shocker of a decision in the Everton game, although it seemed to galvanise them.
No doubt partly due to the replays "accidentally" being shown on the big screens. The radio commentary called it out, I thought that wasn't allowed.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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VAR hasn't been good during either the Europa League or Conference League final.

Abraham was pulled badly tonight. Last man pull and nothing was given. It was a red.

Last week this didn't even get a booking.





A penalty was also missed for Frankfurt.

Glassman

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22,534 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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Mike Dean says fans should be able to listen to referees and VARs debating decisions and thinks the change will come in the near future.

About time, and interesting that he's made the statement after reffing his last game.

TEKNOPUG

18,950 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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Glassman said:
Mike Dean says fans should be able to listen to referees and VARs debating decisions and thinks the change will come in the near future.

About time, and interesting that he's made the statement after reffing his last game.
Like in other grown up sports? They'll be showing replays in the stadium next....

pingu393

7,797 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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They trialled miccing (sp?) the ref once. It didn't end well.

Glassman

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22,534 posts

215 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Pulling a player's hair is not considered an offence in football's rules (but pulling a player's shirt is).

VAR official Mike Dean took a look at the incident and decided it was not a red card offence, nor a free-kick to Chelsea.

The rule was applied (or there was no rule there to be applied in this case).

Seems a bit of an odd one which now means players could exploit this non rule, no? I wonder how long that will go on for...

bigpriest

1,600 posts

130 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Glassman said:
Pulling a player's hair is not considered an offence in football's rules (but pulling a player's shirt is).

VAR official Mike Dean took a look at the incident and decided it was not a red card offence, nor a free-kick to Chelsea.

The rule was applied (or there was no rule there to be applied in this case).

Seems a bit of an odd one which now means players could exploit this non rule, no? I wonder how long that will go on for...
Cautions for unsporting behaviour

There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, e.g. if a player:

holds an opponent for the tactical purpose of pulling the opponent away from the ball or preventing the opponent from getting to the ball

johnboy1975

8,399 posts

108 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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It's a shame Sky Sports don't clip up "ref watch" (on a regular basis) for YouTube consumption

They do have a couple of clips on their website
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/footb...

I think the yellow card for the West Ham penalty was incorrect - deliberate handball preventing a goalscoring chance = red.

Yes the keeper *may* have got it but that's irrelevant to the context of denying an opportunity.


A Winner Is You

24,980 posts

227 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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bigpriest said:
Glassman said:
Pulling a player's hair is not considered an offence in football's rules (but pulling a player's shirt is).

VAR official Mike Dean took a look at the incident and decided it was not a red card offence, nor a free-kick to Chelsea.

The rule was applied (or there was no rule there to be applied in this case).

Seems a bit of an odd one which now means players could exploit this non rule, no? I wonder how long that will go on for...
Cautions for unsporting behaviour

There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, e.g. if a player:

holds an opponent for the tactical purpose of pulling the opponent away from the ball or preventing the opponent from getting to the ball
Could very easily have been a straight red but Anthony Taylor, despite staring straight at the incident, allowed play to go on and Spurs to score an equaliser. Managers lose their jobs and players their starting spot for mistakes, but officials get away with it again and again. Nothing will come of it, the F.A will close ranks and protect their own, turning a blind eye to incompetence (it must be incompetence, because the only other possibility is corruption, and as bad as they are I don't think that is the case.)

LotusOmega375D

7,621 posts

153 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Or just get a haircut? biggrin

mickk

28,864 posts

242 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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LotusOmega375D said:
Or just get a haircut? biggrin
This would be the answer, he's just asking for a tug wearing that cut.

Glassman

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22,534 posts

215 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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mickk said:
LotusOmega375D said:
Or just get a haircut? biggrin
This would be the answer, he's just asking for a tug wearing that cut.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic liked your post.



TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Glassman said:
Pulling a player's hair is not considered an offence in football's rules (but pulling a player's shirt is).
Yes it is, violent conduct, straight red.

Glassman said:
VAR official Mike Dean took a look at the incident and decided it was not a red card offence, nor a free-kick to Chelsea.
He was wrong not to give a red card. Having not given the red card, because a goal wasn't scored (the goal came from the following corner) he couldn't give a free kick, because VAR only rules on free kicks when that move led directly to a goal.

It was 2 huge errors, one from Taylor for not giving the straight red, as he was looking straight at it, and one from Dean for not saying it was a red.

G-wiz

2,151 posts

26 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Glassman said:
Pulling a player's hair is not considered an offence in football's rules (but pulling a player's shirt is).
Yes it is, violent conduct, straight red.

With a hair-do like that, you probably deserve to be yanked down by it, on set-pieces.

ArmaghMan

2,410 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Doesn't have look like it today

LotusOmega375D

7,621 posts

153 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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If your team is one of the Big 6 you’ll be OK for VAR..

As Moyes said the Cornet decision was scandalous.

The Coutinho incorrect “off-side” never even got to VAR thanks to the fk-wit linesman. It deflected in off Stones’ face, so Ederson was never going to save it.