Will VAR Change Football for the Better?

[Glassman]

HRL said:

Well it didn’t spoil Chelsea/Arsenal too much.

Two penalty scenarios; neither enough to change the pitch ref's first opinion of it.

Five minutes added at end of game for such stoppages. Could potentially be a lot more if the game was more intense.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

HRL said:

Well it didn’t spoil Chelsea/Arsenal too much.

It was a poor game anyway, made worse by bloody var.

[Mondschein]

If it stops all of this bullshine at corners then I'm all for it.





It drives me nuts as it's out-and-out cheating.

[oxford drinker]

Not a fan, but seems like all the managers etc want it so it will happen. Repeatedly watching endless replays will get annoying if it happens several times every half. Perhaps there should be a time limit for the VAR to alter the referee's decision - give them 30 seconds, if it's inconclusive in that time, just carry on.

[HRL]

Mondschein said:

If it stops all of this bullshine at corners then I'm all for it.





It drives me nuts as it's out-and-out cheating.

Couldn’t agree more.

Less cheating and more honesty wouldn’t go amiss in the game either.

[Driver101]

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

They will eventually. We were always promised goal line technology wasn't the thin end of the wedge, and it would stop with that. I knew that was a lie. It won't be long before every disputed throw in is vetted. Especially after a big match is decided with a goal from a throw in awarded the wrong way.

[Driver101]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

They will eventually. We were always promised goal line technology wasn't the thin end of the wedge, and it would stop with that. I knew that was a lie. It won't be long before every disputed throw in is vetted. Especially after a big match is decided with a goal from a throw in awarded the wrong way.

They won't even be using it for second yellow card incidents. Straight red card offences only.

I'm not too sure about that as a second yellow has the same result to a team as a straight red.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Driver101 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

They will eventually. We were always promised goal line technology wasn't the thin end of the wedge, and it would stop with that. I knew that was a lie. It won't be long before every disputed throw in is vetted. Especially after a big match is decided with a goal from a throw in awarded the wrong way.

They won't even be using it for second yellow card incidents. Straight red card offences only.

For now. Give it time.

[Mondschein]

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

Correct. A shirt pull on an attacking player by a defending player in the box (once the ball is in play, not whilst they are jostling waiting for the corner to be taken) is a penalty, if spotted by the ref. So if there's an appeal, the ref can call upon var.

[Driver101]

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

If the ref doesn't see it he can't stop the game to view what 20 players did in the box guessing something might have happened.

If he sees it he should give the penalty without assistance.

[Mondschein]

Driver101 said:

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

If the ref doesn't see it he can't stop the game to view what 20 players did in the box guessing something might have happened.

If he sees it he should give the penalty without assistance.

But if a player ends up on the floor from tug/drag-back and the ref didn't see it but is suspicious then..

[monty999]

Just think how many extra pies will be sold during these 4 hour marathons
Also another 'benefit' would be being able to go for a slash during the game without missing anything !

[HRL]

Who’d have thought. In the modern game the fans are as over dramatic as the players!

I’m sure if VAR turns out to be ste, it’ll be binned.

[Driver101]

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

If the ref doesn't see it he can't stop the game to view what 20 players did in the box guessing something might have happened.

If he sees it he should give the penalty without assistance.

But if a player ends up on the floor from tug/drag-back and the ref didn't see it but is suspicious then..

Not a valid reason to stop the game.

It would utterly ruin the game if every time a player went down the game had to be stopped to view the incident from countless different angles to see if a shirt tug took place. A shirt tug shouldn't cause a player to fall anyway and the last thing we need is more people falling to the ground to open a debate if that little touch or tug was enough to justify a penalty.

If they started doing that people would turn off fast.

I didn't watch any of the semi finals, but it didn't appear to get used much?

[Mondschein]

Driver101 said:

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

Mondschein said:

Driver101 said:

They won't be using it to decide if there was a shirt pull or not. The game would never get started.

it's a penalty-claim decision for which, I'm led to understand, VAR can be used.

If the ref doesn't see it he can't stop the game to view what 20 players did in the box guessing something might have happened.

If he sees it he should give the penalty without assistance.

But if a player ends up on the floor from tug/drag-back and the ref didn't see it but is suspicious then..

Not a valid reason to stop the game.

It would utterly ruin the game if every time a player went down the game had to be stopped to view 20 players from countless different angles to see if a shirt tug took place. A shirt tug shouldn't cause a player to fall anyway and the last thing we need is more people falling to the ground to open a debate if that little touch or tug was enough to justify a penalty.

If they started doing that people would turn off fast.

It is a valid reason as will be demonstrated at some point in the future. Whether people "would turn off fast" is irrelevant. And it's not "every time a player went down" just when the referee suspects foul play but can't decide. Just like any other challenge in the box where a player is brought down or unfairly impeded but the referee wants a third party to judge the issue.

Driver101 said:

I didn't watch any of the semi finals, but it didn't appear to get used much?

And neither was there any shirt pulling in the penalty area - coincidence? Or are players now aware that the system is operational?

[Puggit]

Any coincidence that 2 of the biggest divers in the PL failed to turn up for the 1st VAR game between Brighton and Palace (Knockaert and Zaha, I'm talking about you...) ?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

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