Will VAR Change Football for the Better?
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RichB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
<clip> That's the rules.
Of course, but I give my opinion and the reasoning behind it. Lumping someone is "slightly" different. Edited by RichB on Sunday 27th October 09:49
Interesting VAR decisions at Emirates today.
Zaha booked for simulation, only for the referee's decision to be overruled by Stockley Park; Palace awarded a penalty as a result.
Later in the game, a goal (by Sokratis) was ruled out a minute or so later because Chambers was deemed to have fouled someone in the build-up.
Ref had a shocker for me, now I'm wondering if this was triggered by Stockley Park reversing his decision.
Zaha booked for simulation, only for the referee's decision to be overruled by Stockley Park; Palace awarded a penalty as a result.
Later in the game, a goal (by Sokratis) was ruled out a minute or so later because Chambers was deemed to have fouled someone in the build-up.
Ref had a shocker for me, now I'm wondering if this was triggered by Stockley Park reversing his decision.
The Hudson Odoi one was interesting. Was contact, ever such a slight touch in the back. Odoi went over but not a blatant dive = Penalty overturned. Correct decision for me. But then Mane got his penalty for the slightest of touches on his toe. Does a blatant dive and still gets the penalty. Hmmmmmm.
CHO should not have been booked, he was pushed in the back. Not enough for a pen but players should only be booked when there's no contact and the go to ground theatrically. I'm guessing VAR was looking for a trip and didn't see the push in the back. If they'd had seen that, I don't understand how they could overturn the ref's decision as the pen wasn't a clear and obvious error. You can give a pen for a push.
Unless the ref said "I've given a pen for a trip, can you check it".
All very strange.
Unless the ref said "I've given a pen for a trip, can you check it".
All very strange.
Glassman said:
Why aren't the referees watching replays on the monitor? The monitor as in, the one provided for him/her/them to watch replays on in the event of a VAR call.
If they use monitors, why bother with the var at all. Ref gives a decision, for whatever, walks over to monitor to check it. TwigtheWonderkid said:
Glassman said:
Why aren't the referees watching replays on the monitor? The monitor as in, the one provided for him/her/them to watch replays on in the event of a VAR call.
If they use monitors, why bother with the var at all. Ref gives a decision, for whatever, walks over to monitor to check it. After all, they're both qualified refs, surely?
wjb said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Glassman said:
Why aren't the referees watching replays on the monitor? The monitor as in, the one provided for him/her/them to watch replays on in the event of a VAR call.
If they use monitors, why bother with the var at all. Ref gives a decision, for whatever, walks over to monitor to check it. After all, they're both qualified refs, surely?
The onfield referee is in charge of the match and has the option to take VAR or his assistant view or not, unfortunately no referee this season has gone over to the monitor to check whether VAR decision was right or wrong against his original decision.
I believe if the referee (Stuart Attwell) for the Norwich v Man U game reviewed the incident on the monitor for the 1st VAR penalty, he would have stuck to his original decision (saw no foul by Godfrey) and if the referee (Martin Atkinson) for the Arsenal v Palace game reviewed the incident on the monitor for the VAR disallowed Sokartis goal he would have stuck to his original decision (saw no foul by Chambers).
I was flicking through several of the Europa League games on BT this week. As you probably know, they have no VAR.
It was actually quite refreshing and liberating to see referees and linesmen making good decisions which actually stood. Fans could celebrate or commiserate when goals went in. I didn’t see any players or coaches arguing about the validity of any goals and no time was wasted.
If only the Premier League and Champions League were like that...
It was actually quite refreshing and liberating to see referees and linesmen making good decisions which actually stood. Fans could celebrate or commiserate when goals went in. I didn’t see any players or coaches arguing about the validity of any goals and no time was wasted.
If only the Premier League and Champions League were like that...
LotusOmega375D said:
I was flicking through several of the Europa League games on BT this week. As you probably know, they have no VAR.
It was actually quite refreshing and liberating to see referees and linesmen making good decisions which actually stood. Fans could celebrate or commiserate when goals went in. I didn’t see any players or coaches arguing about the validity of any goals and no time was wasted.
If only the Premier League and Champions League were like that...
Agree. VAR hasn't sorted anything out really. Just more contentious inconsistent decisions with the 'benefit' of seeing replays.It was actually quite refreshing and liberating to see referees and linesmen making good decisions which actually stood. Fans could celebrate or commiserate when goals went in. I didn’t see any players or coaches arguing about the validity of any goals and no time was wasted.
If only the Premier League and Champions League were like that...
Listening to 601 bbc Shefield will be pissed of with VAR major crazy result, anybody see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_KNB9KKG0
3 mins 24 secs to make a decision! nuts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_KNB9KKG0
3 mins 24 secs to make a decision! nuts!
Edited by Baron Greenback on Saturday 9th November 16:27
Just seen the still of the Sheff Utd offside, absolutely ridiculous again, not dissimilar to the Liverpool one last week. VAR is there to correct clear and obvious mistakes, not work out if part of a player is milimetres ahead of a defender. Sad times 
And why is offside based on the position of a foot/armpit but not a hand, or a head
And why is offside based on the position of a foot/armpit but not a hand, or a head
Just watching Leicester Arsenal. How is that not a pen....the tug on Chillwell at the far post? I don't understand this game anymore. Chillwell may not have got to the ball but that shouldn't matter. It's a foul, it's in the box, and the ball is in play. That's the 3 things needed for a pen.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: How is that pull on Soyuncu not a foul?
Especially when the VAR panel awarded a penalty to Watford last weekhttps://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/11932223626...
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