The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 3]
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
We did old fashioned defending for 50 years and it got us nowhere. Holland also gave away a goal thru not hoofing it out of defence, do you think they are going to change?
And the disallowed "goal" came from a pass on the goal line.No shame in getting beat by this lot and we actually looked like a semi-decent side.
Fans are total and utter dicks though. Embarrassing.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
toastyhamster said:
Old fashioned defending please, Stones, there's your coat.
We did old fashioned defending for 50 years and it got us nowhere. Holland also gave away a goal thru not hoofing it out of defence, do you think they are going to change? simoid said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
toastyhamster said:
Old fashioned defending please, Stones, there's your coat.
We did old fashioned defending for 50 years and it got us nowhere. Holland also gave away a goal thru not hoofing it out of defence, do you think they are going to change? Neither were a factor tonight, so they shouldn't be doing it.
simoid said:
What sort of modern fancy defending is allowing yourself to be robbed of the ball when you’ve got a simple pass to your keeper on?
Spot on.Commentators seem to think that there is a binary choice when it comes to defending. You have to either hoof it out from the back like in the old days or faff around with it at the back and play it out calmly, stroking the ball around. For me, the correct way is the latter but with the knowledge that if you have to hoof, you hoof. Stones has always been too cocky for his talent and tonight, I'm afraid, we paid for it.
Black can man said:
Why are they all booing Big Virgil ?
Henry winters tweetVirgil van Dijk, PFA Player of the Year, imperious Liverpool footballer, European champion, role model, class act on and off the field, supporter of the Red Cross, paid for Christmas party at Anfield for 120 kids suffering from cancer, is being booed by England fans #NEDENG
m3sye said:
Black can man said:
Why are they all booing Big Virgil ?
Henry winters tweetVirgil van Dijk, PFA Player of the Year, imperious Liverpool footballer, European champion, role model, class act on and off the field, supporter of the Red Cross, paid for Christmas party at Anfield for 120 kids suffering from cancer, is being booed by England fans #NEDENG
I didn't see anything from Virgil other than another solid defensive performance.
wjb said:
To play out from the back effectively you need world class players, or poor opposition.
Neither were a factor tonight, so they shouldn't be doing it.
Exactly this, just not good enough to play that way. Players with no vision, indecisive, nervy passing, easier to knock it back to the goal keeper that make a positive pass forward. Neither were a factor tonight, so they shouldn't be doing it.
Just get rid of the ball, yes it may come back again but often it does not, nothing wrong with a long ball game.
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