Ian Wright says criticism of Raheem Sterling is racist

Ian Wright says criticism of Raheem Sterling is racist

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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jcremonini said:
Black can man said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
"Chelsea rent boys" has been chanted at us by every set of opposition fans, home and away, for 20 years. I cannot get overly excited by it. I'm all against ruling out any racist abuse and the kind of specific and targeted homophobic abuse Sol Campbell and Graham LeSaux used to receive.

But it's going to be a hard job shutting down chants like "Chelsea rent boys".
Where did the rent boys chants come from ?

The Sol Campbell abuse he gets from Spurs fans I reckon is as nasty as it gets & it’s never going to stop ?
It came from when we started using foreign "mercenaries" ( as opposition fans would say ) . You know, players like Zola, Gullitt, Di Matteo and Vialli who only ever came to the club for the money ( rolleyes ) .The chant was aimed at them, not the club or the fans. It's just stuck since then.
Nah, it goes back years further than that. I'm guessing it's because we're the closest club to the West End, and various documentaries about rent boys working Piccadilly Circus station, Soho and other West End locations.

Just a guess, but it was certainly a thing in the 70s and 80s.

wjb

5,100 posts

132 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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The internet said:
Why are Chelsea fans sometimes called as Rentboys?

I will have to take you through history before answering your question. So bear with me.

Firstly a "rent boy" is a popular colloquialism for a male prostitute. Rumour has it that sometime in the 1980s, a police raid at the dawn of the morning revealed a Chelsea hooligan lying in bed with a male prostitute or a "rent boy".

At that time the notorious Chelsea hooligan firm called the Chelsea Headhunters had a popular chant named 'Chelsea Aggro". After the incident was read in the tabloids, rival fans, mainly the supporters of clubs from Manchester & Liverpool replaced the word 'Aggro' with 'rent boys'. Ergo, the chant 'Chelsea rent boys'.

Another reason why the chant was popularised by rival fans was because the Earl's Court area in London, near Stamford Bridge, was a spot to pick up male prostitutes, apparently.

And since Roman Abramovich took over the club in 2003, the club has had a massive influx of money and they have been heavily investing in world-class players since then. Chelsea FC as a whole, do not have the same glorious past of clubs like Manchester United or Liverpool. So rival fans hypothesize that the money is the only motivation for a player who wants to join Chelsea. Therefore any player who could have opted for a more traditional club but instead joins Chelsea, is branded a 'rent boy'.

Recently many LGBT supporter groups have been protesting for the banning of the chant as they believe it projects homophobic sentiments.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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So a combination of factors.

I suppose one could argue that chanting about rent boys may not be homophobic. A homosexual could have a genuine dislike of prostitution, and therefore could be anti rent boys. There's nothing to say you have to be straight to dislike rent boys. Homosexuals are a protected category in law, but prostitutes aren't!

jcremonini

2,100 posts

168 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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wjb said:
The internet said:
Why are Chelsea fans sometimes called as Rentboys?

I will have to take you through history before answering your question. So bear with me.

Firstly a "rent boy" is a popular colloquialism for a male prostitute. Rumour has it that sometime in the 1980s, a police raid at the dawn of the morning revealed a Chelsea hooligan lying in bed with a male prostitute or a "rent boy".

At that time the notorious Chelsea hooligan firm called the Chelsea Headhunters had a popular chant named 'Chelsea Aggro". After the incident was read in the tabloids, rival fans, mainly the supporters of clubs from Manchester & Liverpool replaced the word 'Aggro' with 'rent boys'. Ergo, the chant 'Chelsea rent boys'.

Another reason why the chant was popularised by rival fans was because the Earl's Court area in London, near Stamford Bridge, was a spot to pick up male prostitutes, apparently.

And since Roman Abramovich took over the club in 2003, the club has had a massive influx of money and they have been heavily investing in world-class players since then. Chelsea FC as a whole, do not have the same glorious past of clubs like Manchester United or Liverpool. So rival fans hypothesize that the money is the only motivation for a player who wants to join Chelsea. Therefore any player who could have opted for a more traditional club but instead joins Chelsea, is branded a 'rent boy'.

Recently many LGBT supporter groups have been protesting for the banning of the chant as they believe it projects homophobic sentiments.
Thanks for that. I always assumed it was 'mercenary' related.

Still humourous , in my opinion at least.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Melchett1905 said:
No. Mr Wings case is still pending further investigation. The City game was a month ago now. Just wondering what's taking so long to find out if he was guilty...
Maybe it’s with the CPS?

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Anyone buying Wayne Hennessy's excuse today?

Black can man

31,841 posts

169 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Ascayman said:
Anyone buying Wayne Hennessy's excuse today?
I can't see him getting away with that one.

He may get one on here to defend him.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Ascayman said:
Anyone buying Wayne Hennessy's excuse today?
It’s PH.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Ascayman said:
Am I due a parrot? Different incidents.

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Alpinestars said:
Ascayman said:
Am I due a parrot? Different incidents.
Maybe you are or perhaps I am.. Your incident was from before Xmas. I was just saying it's old news, there were more at it last night too.



Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Ascayman said:
Alpinestars said:
Ascayman said:
Am I due a parrot? Different incidents.
Maybe you are or perhaps I am.. Your incident was from before Xmas. I was just saying it's old news, there were more at it last night too.
Not sure the one before Xmas was reported before this week. Total wkers.

Melchett1905

442 posts

65 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Alpinestars said:
Melchett1905 said:
No. Mr Wings case is still pending further investigation. The City game was a month ago now. Just wondering what's taking so long to find out if he was guilty...
Maybe it’s with the CPS?
Any idea what's happened with this? It's taking a long time to work out if he said something racist or not.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Thought I'd revisit this as there was insufficient evidence to charge Chelsea fan Colin Wing.


"Having carefully reviewed the evidence, including advice from a lip reading expert, we have found insufficient evidence to prove that the words used by one of the individuals were racially aggravated."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8950365/chelsea-fan...

wjb

5,100 posts

132 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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TaylotS2K said:
Thought I'd revisit this as there was insufficient evidence to charge Chelsea fan Colin Wing.
You should tell Melchett1905, he'll be made up.








Oh.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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wjb said:
TaylotS2K said:
Thought I'd revisit this as there was insufficient evidence to charge Chelsea fan Colin Wing.
You should tell Melchett1905, he'll be made up.








Oh.
I don't think anyone would be made up. Just calling out those who suggested he was guilty before any investigation and subsequent findings were known.

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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He was also named player of the season today. Well done to him, an incredible English talent we can all be proud of.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yep. Thoroughly deserved.


TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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TaylotS2K said:
Thought I'd revisit this as there was insufficient evidence to charge Chelsea fan Colin Wing.


"Having carefully reviewed the evidence, including advice from a lip reading expert, we have found insufficient evidence to prove that the words used by one of the individuals were racially aggravated."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8950365/chelsea-fan...
No comment from Alpinestars and the others who had Mr Wing guilty........