The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 8)
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graylag said:
They’d never do it but Eddie Howe would be a fantastic appointment. Give him time and the backing to try to build a team. At least he wants to play football.
I suspect it won't happen until season end but if Jose departs Utd fans need to accept it's a 5 year turn around plan at least from where we are now, maybe longer. Lots of old faces need to go and a more media friendly persona perhaps if there is a new face. Anyhoo, onwards and upwards, not shocked at all unfortunately by the result today.
ORD said:
Mou is trolling us. He’s just said that the game was under control!
We have been absolutely spanked and thoroughly humiliated by the Scousers. Humiliated.
The manager should be gutted and apologising for the performance.
Please please please just sack him and make the side worth watching again!
Let's have more posts like this please.We have been absolutely spanked and thoroughly humiliated by the Scousers. Humiliated.
The manager should be gutted and apologising for the performance.
Please please please just sack him and make the side worth watching again!
graylag said:
Silenoz said:
Assuming that the board do dispense with the services of JM, who would replace him?
They’d never do it but Eddie Howe would be a fantastic appointment. Give him time and the backing to try to build a team. At least he wants to play football. Maybe in a few more years.
graylag said:
They’d never do it but Eddie Howe would be a fantastic appointment. Give him time and the backing to try to build a team. At least he wants to play football.
Decent idea, plays good football but he’s a one-club man I think. Can’t see Poch coming to us while Real are after him either. Harry Redknapp’s profile has just risen and I hear his dog’s a bit skint...
Cie said:
That's where I'm at. It's expected at this stage though with how bad we are, which is soul destroying in itself.
It was always a five year rebuild when Ferguson retired but you’re six years and three failed managers into it. How long before your Board realises that appointing big names isn’t going to work?I bet they panic and appoint Zidane now
Liverpool are on the verge of seeing their manager deliver the holy grail against pretty much insurmountable odds. Someone showed his team from his first match a few years ago and there has been a complete overhaul. Didn’t you put out a load of Ferguson signings?
graylag said:
It was always a five year rebuild when Ferguson retired but you’re six years and three failed managers into it. How long before your Board realises that appointing big names isn’t going to work?
I bet they panic and appoint Zidane now
We haven't given anyone 5 yrs yet that's my point. The clock is re-set I'd suggest given the amount of work needed with this squad as we are now. I bet they panic and appoint Zidane now
It's like Deja vu for the older fans (and non stressy mares) as we've seen all this before. We used to watch Liverpool win everything and hope for an FA cup run. Let's get behind the club again for now till this mess is sorted. No point whinging and crying.
Wacky Racer said:
Eddie Howe's a decent manager and a nice guy, but really a "top" club like Manchester United should be setting their sights a lot higher than him. (Ex Burnley and Bournemouth)
Maybe in a few more years.
You say that but United are a mid table team now. The whole squad needs an overhaul, CL football is a long way away once they get knocked out and there’s little to attract top players as top wages can be paid by any PL side nowadays. Maybe in a few more years.
Appointing another manager who is used to having a quality squad is a waste of time as they won’t know how to build a team. Mourinho came as a proven winner but has shown that he can only do so if he has a quality squad already in place.
200Plus Club said:
We haven't given anyone 5 yrs yet that's my point. The clock is re-set I'd suggest given the amount of work needed with this squad as we are now.
It's like Deja vu for the older fans (and non stressy mares) as we've seen all this before. We used to watch Liverpool win everything and hope for an FA cup run. Let's get behind the club again for now till this mess is sorted. No point whinging and crying.
Are you serious? A five year plan is a plan. It’s demonstrable and there is evidential progression towards it and milestones on the way. This team seems devoid of anything of value and is just turning up expecting to lose. Why would you put up with another 2 years of this?It's like Deja vu for the older fans (and non stressy mares) as we've seen all this before. We used to watch Liverpool win everything and hope for an FA cup run. Let's get behind the club again for now till this mess is sorted. No point whinging and crying.
You’ve just been pretty much buttf
ked by your fiercest rivals on global TV. there are no positives to find in thatgraylag said:
Are you serious? A five year plan is a plan. It’s demonstrable and there is evidential progression towards it and milestones on the way. This team seems devoid of anything of value and is just turning up expecting to lose. Why would you put up with another 2 years of this?
You’ve just been pretty much buttfked by your fiercest rivals on global TV. there are no positives to find in that
Err calm down love. At no point did i say its a 5yr plan with Jose and we should stick with him. You’ve just been pretty much buttf
ked by your fiercest rivals on global TV. there are no positives to find in thatUnfortunately for whatever reason he's not been backed after last season and that showed he wasn't trusted to deliver or the board don't have confidence etc. We don't know. He's then riled up all the poor players being brutally honest about performances and alienated them and a lot of the media and fans.
Personally I think he's finished at the end of the season unless the board decide to back him fully and let him spend big which looks unlikely in Jan. The players must take some blame also, but recently I believe he deliberately misplayed players out of position and allowed that to show up the weak positions he feels we have.
Most Utd fans will admit he's highlighted the very average players we have, but not in the correct manner perhaps.
200Plus Club said:
Err calm down love. At no pount did i say its a 5yr plan with Jose and we should stick with him. Unfortunately he's not been backed after last season and that showed he wasn't trusted to deliver or the board don't have confidence etc. We don't know. He's then riled up all the poor players being brutally honest about performances and alienated them and a lot of the media and fans.
Personally I think he's finished at the end of the season unless the board decide to back him fully and let him spend big which looks unlikely in Jan. The players must take some blame also, but recently I believe he deliberately misplayed players out of position and allowed that to show up the weak positions he feels we have.
Most Utd fans will admit he's highlighted the very average players we have, but not in the correct manner perhaps.
that’s enough to sack him then and argue over breach of contract? I don’t understand how people say he hasn’t been backed. He’s bought players in the positions that he’s complaining about but none of them have been good enough. That must be his fault?Personally I think he's finished at the end of the season unless the board decide to back him fully and let him spend big which looks unlikely in Jan. The players must take some blame also, but recently I believe he deliberately misplayed players out of position and allowed that to show up the weak positions he feels we have.
Most Utd fans will admit he's highlighted the very average players we have, but not in the correct manner perhaps.
graylag said:
Silenoz said:
Assuming that the board do dispense with the services of JM, who would replace him?
They’d never do it but Eddie Howe would be a fantastic appointment. Give him time and the backing to try to build a team. At least he wants to play football. graylag said:
200Plus Club said:
Err calm down love. At no pount did i say its a 5yr plan with Jose and we should stick with him. Unfortunately he's not been backed after last season and that showed he wasn't trusted to deliver or the board don't have confidence etc. We don't know. He's then riled up all the poor players being brutally honest about performances and alienated them and a lot of the media and fans.
Personally I think he's finished at the end of the season unless the board decide to back him fully and let him spend big which looks unlikely in Jan. The players must take some blame also, but recently I believe he deliberately misplayed players out of position and allowed that to show up the weak positions he feels we have.
Most Utd fans will admit he's highlighted the very average players we have, but not in the correct manner perhaps.
that’s enough to sack him then and argue over breach of contract? I don’t understand how people say he hasn’t been backed. He’s bought players in the positions that he’s complaining about but none of them have been good enough. That must be his fault?Personally I think he's finished at the end of the season unless the board decide to back him fully and let him spend big which looks unlikely in Jan. The players must take some blame also, but recently I believe he deliberately misplayed players out of position and allowed that to show up the weak positions he feels we have.
Most Utd fans will admit he's highlighted the very average players we have, but not in the correct manner perhaps.
Yes the players are average, but there is enough talent in the squad to compete for top 4. Jose has to get that talent to work but it seems that is even past him now.
It looks as though he has lost the dressing room. If I was a player at the club I would be pretty f
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