What the **** is wrong with people?

[bad company]

Dogsey said:

C70R said:

NFL is even bigger, but I don't remember the last time I heard songs about clubs' chairmen dying.

Or opposition fans making gestures to mock tragedies that their opponents' teams have suffered (as we saw last night).

Why is it only football where this happens?

"A total of 16.67 million fans attended NFL games during the 2019 regular season", that's out of a population of 329.45 million, as opposed to 14.5 million out of 66.4 million in England. Not exactly comparable is it?

Football/Soccer is way ahead of all other sports globally:-

http://biggestglobalsports.com/

[48k]

C70R said:

I sit and listen to sports radio journalists making apologies for them, based on some laughable premise of "passion" and entitlement.

Which sports radio journalists were making apologies for those Manchester idiots?

[bad company]

48k said:

C70R said:

I sit and listen to sports radio journalists making apologies for them, based on some laughable premise of "passion" and entitlement.

Which sports radio journalists were making apologies for those Manchester idiots?

None.

[C70R]

Dogsey said:

C70R said:

NFL is even bigger, but I don't remember the last time I heard songs about clubs' chairmen dying.

Or opposition fans making gestures to mock tragedies that their opponents' teams have suffered (as we saw last night).

Why is it only football where this happens?

"A total of 16.67 million fans attended NFL games during the 2019 regular season", that's out of a population of 329.45 million, as opposed to 14.5 million out of 66.4 million in England. Not exactly comparable is it?

What does the % of the population who attend have to do with anything? More obfuscation.

Roughly the same number of people (containing plenty of working class folk) seem to manage to attend NFL games without regularly mocking tragedy or making death threats en masse.

Why do football fans get a pass?

[C70R]

bad company said:

48k said:

C70R said:

I sit and listen to sports radio journalists making apologies for them, based on some laughable premise of "passion" and entitlement.

Which sports radio journalists were making apologies for those Manchester idiots?

None.

I turned on TalkSport for literally 10min on Weds evening, and one of the pundits reporting from the West Ham game said (about the Man Utd fans' reaction):
"I can understand where their frustration is coming from, and they've crossed a line, but I'd be a hypocrite for calling them out because I've also sung some pretty nasty things about the chairmen of my own club."

That's the literal definition of journalists excusing their behaviour. It's embarrassing, and I can't imagine any other sport's pundits making excuses like that.

Football is rotten.

[Driver101]

C70R said:

bad company said:

48k said:

C70R said:

I sit and listen to sports radio journalists making apologies for them, based on some laughable premise of "passion" and entitlement.

Which sports radio journalists were making apologies for those Manchester idiots?

None.

I turned on TalkSport for literally 10min on Weds evening, and one of the pundits reporting from the West Ham game said (about the Man Utd fans' reaction):
"I can understand where their frustration is coming from, and they've crossed a line, but I'd be a hypocrite for calling them out because I've also sung some pretty nasty things about the chairmen of my own club."

That's the literal definition of journalists excusing their behaviour. It's embarrassing, and I can't imagine any other sport's pundits making excuses like that.

Football is rotten.

You've gone from journalists to one unnamed pundit on Talksport. Even in your statement the unnamed person said they had crossed the line. I've no doubt you've managed to get the wrong end of the stick.

Who was the pundit? I'm sure they'll have expanded on the brief part you heard to get some proper context of their opinion.

Probably not the best idea to ask a pundit his opinions of what happened at a game when he was at another game.

I don't understand why you keep listening and watching when it clearly keeps upsetting you.

[bad company]

C70R said:

I turned on TalkSport for literally 10min on Weds evening, and one of the pundits reporting from the West Ham game said (about the Man Utd fans' reaction):

TalkSport!!!! Do you also read The Sun?

Who was the reporter or pundit please?

[Pothole]

C70R said:

What does the % of the population who attend have to do with anything? More obfuscation.

Roughly the same number of people (containing plenty of working class folk) seem to manage to attend NFL games without regularly mocking tragedy or making death threats en masse.

Why do football fans get a pass?

Who says they get a pass? You have an agenda. This doesn't seem to be the place to follow it. Almost every sane human in the world agrees that the behaviour of a minority (and that's what it is, whether you like it or not) of fans is reprehensible. As to why it happens, I'm sure you're capable of googling learned articles about mob mentalilty and partisan/tribal behaviour related to sports. Be sure to look at similar articles about political tribalism and related violence and anything else you can think of which might be similar.

[C70R]

Football, and its fans, continues to cover itself in glory.

The number of Twitter posts about boycotting a club because they and their captain condemned a dumb, racist banner about White Lives Matter is frightening.

Football seems to be the UK's NASCAR when it comes to attracting racists. Why is it apparently tolerated more in football than other sports? Even more baffling when you considering the large proportion of non-white players in the PL.

[Driver101]

I knew who had bumped this thread before I even looked.

Just like most of your posts on here the accounts you see positing on social media are trolling for a reaction.

[PanicBuyingBogRoll]

Driver101 said:

I knew who had bumped this thread before I even looked.

Just like most of your posts on here the accounts you see positing on social media are trolling for a reaction.

But he is right. Just look at the reaction to the banner flown over the game last night.

[bad company]

C70R said:

Football, and its fans, continues to cover itself in glory.

The number of Twitter posts about boycotting a club because they and their captain condemned a dumb, racist banner about White Lives Matter is frightening.

Football seems to be the UK's NASCAR when it comes to attracting racists. Why is it apparently tolerated more in football than other sports? Even more baffling when you considering the large proportion of non-white players in the PL.

I reckon it’s more a case of many racists being attracted to the tribalism of football.

What would the reaction have been if the 3 guys murdered in Reading on Sunday had been black?

[C70R]

Football clubs: "Thank goodness our fans are back"

Football fans:

[bad company]

C70R said:

Football clubs: "Thank goodness our fans are back"

Football fans:

That’s one person out of how many?

[Pothole]

C70R said:

Football, and its fans, continues to cover itself in glory.

The number of Twitter posts about boycotting a club because they and their captain condemned a dumb, racist banner about White Lives Matter is frightening.

Football seems to be the UK's NASCAR when it comes to attracting racists. Why is it apparently tolerated more in football than other sports? Even more baffling when you considering the large proportion of non-white players in the PL.

6 months on and still: You have an agenda. This doesn't seem to be the place to follow it. Almost every sane human in the world agrees that the behaviour of a minority (and that's what it is, whether you like it or not) of fans is reprehensible. As to why it happens, I'm sure you're capable of googling learned articles about mob mentalilty and partisan/tribal behaviour related to sports. Be sure to look at similar articles about political tribalism and related violence and anything else you can think of which might be similar.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

C70R said:

Football clubs: "Thank goodness our fans are back"

Football fans:

Of course Rio is right on this., but this is the same Rio who was fined £45K for racially abusing Ashley Cole.

[gaseous clay]

C70R said:

Football clubs: "Thank goodness our fans are back"

Football fans:

fking infuriating, out of all the people who were desperate to go today, that prick gets in. At least he won't be stinking up our ground any more.

[C70R]

bad company said:

That’s one person out of how many?

Ah, yes. The "one bad apple" defence.

Why was football, of all the sports who opened their doors this week, the only one where the attendees are racially abusing pundits?

We didn't see it at the F1 in Monaco this weekend, or at the US PGA Championships. Rugby stadiums across the country had fans in this week, with 20k fans in Twickenham on Friday and Saturday - no racism reported.

Why is it always football?
Why do football fans always feel the need to defend and deflect?

[C70R]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

C70R said:

Football clubs: "Thank goodness our fans are back"

Football fans:

Of course Rio is right on this., but this is the same Rio who was fined £45K for racially abusing Ashley Cole.

I have no idea why you felt the need to bring that up.

You're going to need to explain the relevance to me.

[C70R]

Yet more trash in football. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57197664

I'm sure it's just "a few bad apples" though.