What the **** is wrong with people?
Discussion
SaintsPaul said:
I too was at the game yesterday but in a different stand so was unaware of this till afterwards. Hope these w@nkers get a life ban and any others who were acting like c*nts.
The problem is over 30,000 people impeccably respected the minutes silence and this is overlooked because of a couple of morons.
Absolutely this. Too many people that do not attend matches or follow football closely look at the headlines and tar the sport with a single statement which is 99.9% on the whole incorrect. There are a small number of narrow minded idiots everywhere whether they are driving, cycling, walking or watching football.The problem is over 30,000 people impeccably respected the minutes silence and this is overlooked because of a couple of morons.
There was a mass brawl at Haydock Park yesterday with a reported 50 people involved in the fighting. Innocent bystanders, including children, were caught up in the incident.
If this happened at football it would be headline news with a massive outcry. As it's horse racing the story is already fading away down the pages.
If this happened at football it would be headline news with a massive outcry. As it's horse racing the story is already fading away down the pages.
Driver101 said:
There was a mass brawl at Haydock Park yesterday with a reported 50 people involved in the fighting. Innocent bystanders, including children, were caught up in the incident.
If this happened at football it would be headline news with a massive outcry. As it's horse racing the story is already fading away down the pages.
By all accounts this isnt a rare thing, there is plenty of physical confrontations at race meets, its just swept under the carpet and the press don't really see it as something newsworthy to get in the viewers...If this happened at football it would be headline news with a massive outcry. As it's horse racing the story is already fading away down the pages.
mickk said:
Heard a few reports of fighting at the races lately, beer, drugs and gambling.
What could possibly go wrong?
As a keen gambler and fan of horse racing I have seen the 'Sport Of Kings' take a downward spiral, as a regular at Newmarket the amount of drunken tWhat could possibly go wrong?
ts that turn up now has completely ruined it for the genuine racegoers.I'm a massive horse racing fan and find the whole "get absolutley blasted" mantra a bit hard to take. By all account have a drink but it seems some people are just out to get tanked and fight. As the poster above says, its the perfect storm of drink, drugs, frustration over losing money.
Do racecourses and football clubs "employ" policeman for the day ? I was told a large racecourse reduced their spend on security to make the event profitable with the inevitable result.
Do racecourses and football clubs "employ" policeman for the day ? I was told a large racecourse reduced their spend on security to make the event profitable with the inevitable result.
WindyCommon said:
garyhun said:
It’s why I’ve lost interest in football over the years - too many morons!
This.Why is it that football seems to be the home for this behaviour?
- In which other sports do referees frequently need protection to leave the pitch?
- In which other sports are players at risk of being hit by projectiles from the crowd?
- How often do referees in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from spectators?
- How often do players in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from opposing fans?
- How often do players in other sports receive significant volumes of racist abuse?
- How often do opposing fans in other sports have huge brawls/fights around venues on a regular basis?
- Which other sports see opposition fans descending into immediate and frankly horrible abuse towards each other on social media?
- When have other sports been forced to play 'behind closed doors' because of the behaviour of their fans?
- Which other sports have fans openly mocking tragic accidents suffered by opposing players/staff/fans?
More pertinently, the question should be - what is it about football that enables/supports/fails to prevent these people from participating in the game and behaving like this, en masse?
It's not a tiny minority, as the football business would conveniently have the rest of the world believe. It's actually quite a lot of people, and it's the bedrock of the game. Without this sense of aggressive, antagonistic tribalism, football wouldn't be the biggest money-earning sport in the world.
Football is rotten. But it continues to grown and make money, so people involved in policing the game turn a blind eye.
I'm sure football won't miss the few ££ I contributed to the game, but it makes me sad that so many others continually pile their money into it in spite of the above.
C70R said:
It's not a tiny minority, as the football business would conveniently have the rest of the world believe. It's actually quite a lot of people, and it's the bedrock of the game. Without this sense of aggressive, antagonistic tribalism, football wouldn't be the biggest money-earning sport in the world.
Sorry that’s just wrong. I’ve been a regular fan and sometimes season ticket holder at Premiership/top tier football for over 50 years. In the 1960/70’s there was more trouble but rarely nowadays despite what the press says. Yes it’s tribal and some of the singing & chanting can be antagonistic but that’s about it.
Mrs BC often joins me as did my son when just a child. We’ve never had a problem.
C70R said:
I respect your experience as valid. However, I can pull examples of all of the above in top flight football this season. The suggests you may have a very a very narrow view of the sport.
Name me another sport where you could do the same for more than one of those?
Do you go to top flight football? Over 14 million people did last season out of which how many caused trouble?Name me another sport where you could do the same for more than one of those?
Yes you can find examples of bad behaviour but given the numbers I’d say not as big a problem as reported.
Edited by bad company on Thursday 21st February 02:54
C70R said:
This.
Why is it that football seems to be the home for this behaviour?
- In which other sports do referees frequently need protection to leave the pitch?
- In which other sports are players at risk of being hit by projectiles from the crowd?
- How often do referees in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from spectators?
- How often do players in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from opposing fans?
- How often do players in other sports receive significant volumes of racist abuse?
- How often do opposing fans in other sports have huge brawls/fights around venues on a regular basis?
- Which other sports see opposition fans descending into immediate and frankly horrible abuse towards each other on social media?
- When have other sports been forced to play 'behind closed doors' because of the behaviour of their fans?
- Which other sports have fans openly mocking tragic accidents suffered by opposing players/staff/fans?
I hope you won't be offended, but:-Why is it that football seems to be the home for this behaviour?
- In which other sports do referees frequently need protection to leave the pitch?
- In which other sports are players at risk of being hit by projectiles from the crowd?
- How often do referees in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from spectators?
- How often do players in other sports receive targeted, personal abuse from opposing fans?
- How often do players in other sports receive significant volumes of racist abuse?
- How often do opposing fans in other sports have huge brawls/fights around venues on a regular basis?
- Which other sports see opposition fans descending into immediate and frankly horrible abuse towards each other on social media?
- When have other sports been forced to play 'behind closed doors' because of the behaviour of their fans?
- Which other sports have fans openly mocking tragic accidents suffered by opposing players/staff/fans?
Department of Sweeping Generalisations
Football (Soccer) is a working class sport
The working class are less intelligent than the the middle class
The things complained of are things that less intelligent people do.
QED.
Whilst I don’t agree with C70R’s assessment of football as a whole there is an element of truth to it, it it isn’t limited to football. Football is a microcosm of society, society is becoming more and more extreme, tolerance of abuse is becoming more acceptable. See the recent comments around the ISIS girl. I’m not defending her actions and that’s what we should be focussed on, but the comments about her skin colour, her religion etc dominate the extreme comments.
Racism is back. What would have been unacceptable 5 years ago now seems commonplace and the casual racist seems to be accepted. From this many other things grow and become normalised.
Racism is back. What would have been unacceptable 5 years ago now seems commonplace and the casual racist seems to be accepted. From this many other things grow and become normalised.
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