The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 12]
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desolate said:
Surely the problem is in three months he is worth nothing.
If he plays like he can and helps secure Champions League again then I'd have thought the money doesn't really matter
True, I'd be looking to secure his services for another couple of years, he can be a bit soft but he does give us an extra option and that magic to unlock stubborn teams that we sometime lack. Lo Celso his alleged replacement probably won't be ready for another year as Poch never likes to rush.If he plays like he can and helps secure Champions League again then I'd have thought the money doesn't really matter
Problem is I think they offered him similar money to Kane and he still turned it down so not sure we can go much higher, says he wants "a new challenge". He could probably get £100k more a week elsewhere too.
Adam B said:
He is a decent player of course but not worth whatever stupid number Levy put on him, I am sure he will be snapped up on a free next summer and make a tidy £20-30M sign on bonus in lieu of any transfer fee. Bit silly all round.
Would Poch not have preferred to sell him for £40-50M (i.e. cheap but reflecting contract length) and reinvested that money?
I'm not sure that's correct at all levy didn't put any number on him the player wants to go to real, Barca or juve and had they put in an offer it'd have been accepted. We accepted a bid from utd but he wasn't interested in going. Would Poch not have preferred to sell him for £40-50M (i.e. cheap but reflecting contract length) and reinvested that money?
He said in the one interview that he did that he would like a change but were it not to come off he would happily stay, which id guess is what is going to happen now with him leaving next summer to one of the the club's mentioned.
I doubt poch gives a toss about the money, he gets to keep a very good player he knows and likes for another year. I'd imagine he's delighted.
As for the pens / dives yesterday I wouldn't consider kanes a dive there was clearly contact and a shove in the back, Kane did look for it though and moved himself into the position to buy it for that reason i don't think it was a pen but it's very different from a dive.
As for the Ali one of anyone thinks that was a dive they should start following another sport. He was rugby tackled to the ground, clearly a pen. 3 times in 3 weeks in our games (1 in our favour 2 against us) that its happened an no pen given... What's the point of VAR again...
desolate said:
Guvernator said:
Dunno in today's inflated market, surely he's worth £70m-£80m all day long? Despite him having a so so end to last season, his stats are still mightily impressive, in fact doesn't he hold the record for premier league assists or something?
When people are paying £80 odd million for largely unproven defenders, surely a well proven attacking mid has to be worth more?
Surely the problem is in three months he is worth nothing.When people are paying £80 odd million for largely unproven defenders, surely a well proven attacking mid has to be worth more?
If he plays like he can and helps secure Champions League again then I'd have thought the money doesn't really matter
But the fact that he can sign a pre-contract agreement in Jan and leave in summer on a free, plus earn millions in signing on fees, is crazy to say the least, but I think we're gonna see a lot more of this.
I'd have him at Liverpool in a heartbeat.
Guvernator said:
Dunno in today's inflated market, surely he's worth £70m-£80m all day long? Despite him having a so so end to last season, his stats are still mightily impressive, in fact doesn't he hold the record for premier league assists or something?
When people are paying £80 odd million for largely unproven defenders, surely a well proven attacking mid has to be worth more?
I would agree, he is worth £80m any day of the week. But who is going to buy him?When people are paying £80 odd million for largely unproven defenders, surely a well proven attacking mid has to be worth more?
Real made it clear he was there second choice, then after failing to get Pogba, didn't seem to be interested at all.
Barcelona weren't in the market, neither were PSG. Chelsea couldn't buy. Utd were interested, but only if Pogba went. Bayern Munich got Coutinho on loan for a few quid. Juventus - if they want him they'll wait and get him next year on a free. Man City didn't need him. We (LFC) couldn't afford him.
He's also 27, so won't have any resale value at the end of a 3-4-5 year contract, which further reduces the number of clubs who'd be willing to buy him for top money.
So, with nearly every top top club out of the running, Levy would have to accept a decent discount for the clubs of the next tier down to take him for £30-40m. Though it's doubtful Eriksen would even want to leave to play for such a club.
So my money is on either Real, Utd or Juve giving him a massive signing on bonus next summer.
I guess it's win-win for Eriksen to run down his contract. Only risk is if he get's injured in the meantime, although he almost always pulls out of risky challenges anyway so not that much of a risk.
It seems he only wants to go to one of the big clubs anyway but if they aren't willing to pay the transfer fee this year, surely it means they don't see him as an essential so If he goes on a free, surely he'll be down the pecking order\warming the bench.
It seems he only wants to go to one of the big clubs anyway but if they aren't willing to pay the transfer fee this year, surely it means they don't see him as an essential so If he goes on a free, surely he'll be down the pecking order\warming the bench.
desolate said:
The money on offer to a free transfer like Eriksen is simply staggering.
We are talking amounts that will set up a family for generations.
Even conservatively we are looking at
20 million signing on
15 million a year
4 year contract
80 million quid.
And that's probably on the low side.
Yup. If he went to the likes of Juventus I can't see him getting paid any less than what Ramsey gets paid, which is supposed to be £36m a year (but I believe that includes the £8m signing bonus) for 4 years.We are talking amounts that will set up a family for generations.
Even conservatively we are looking at
20 million signing on
15 million a year
4 year contract
80 million quid.
And that's probably on the low side.
jammy-git said:
desolate said:
The money on offer to a free transfer like Eriksen is simply staggering.
We are talking amounts that will set up a family for generations.
Even conservatively we are looking at
20 million signing on
15 million a year
4 year contract
80 million quid.
And that's probably on the low side.
Yup. If he went to the likes of Juventus I can't see him getting paid any less than what Ramsey gets paid, which is supposed to be £36m a year (but I believe that includes the £8m signing bonus) for 4 years.We are talking amounts that will set up a family for generations.
Even conservatively we are looking at
20 million signing on
15 million a year
4 year contract
80 million quid.
And that's probably on the low side.
m3sye said:
Talking of Juve, how is it even possible they are within FFP, some of the weekly wages they have on their books is ridiculous surely they are being investigated
LOL, Sponsorship deals no doubt ?Pirelli and Jeep for instance are owned by the Agnelli's. Just like PSG and $ity they no doubt inflate the deals.
But you islanders need not complain : EPL and the Championship contains a lot of scum. Arabs, Russians and Asians
4 free CL tickets, no CL qualy, not drawing fellow EPL teams in the CL group stages, 1/8 and 1/4 finals.
And former small clubs like Spurs are reaping the rewards, floating on TV right money and while the rest of Europe outside the top 4 has to look on.
Easy life.
Edited by DeltonaS on Monday 2nd September 18:13
DeltonaS said:
LOL, Sponsorship deals no doubt ?
Pirelli and Jeep for instance are owned by the Agnelli's. Just like PSG and $ity they no doubt inflate the deals.
But you islanders need not complain : EPL and the Championship contains a lot of scum. Arabs, Russians and Asians
4 free CL tickets, no CL qualy, not drawing fellow EPL teams in the CL group stages, 1/8 and 1/4 finals.
And former small clubs like Spurs are reaping the rewards while floating on TV right money and while the rest of Europe outside the top 4 has to look on.
Easy life.
They make less than Liverpool or Spurs there is no way either of our clubs could afford those wages and be within FFP rules. Pirelli and Jeep for instance are owned by the Agnelli's. Just like PSG and $ity they no doubt inflate the deals.
But you islanders need not complain : EPL and the Championship contains a lot of scum. Arabs, Russians and Asians
4 free CL tickets, no CL qualy, not drawing fellow EPL teams in the CL group stages, 1/8 and 1/4 finals.
And former small clubs like Spurs are reaping the rewards while floating on TV right money and while the rest of Europe outside the top 4 has to look on.
Easy life.
m3sye said:
DeltonaS said:
LOL, Sponsorship deals no doubt ?
Pirelli and Jeep for instance are owned by the Agnelli's. Just like PSG and $ity they no doubt inflate the deals.
But you islanders need not complain : EPL and the Championship contains a lot of scum. Arabs, Russians and Asians
4 free CL tickets, no CL qualy, not drawing fellow EPL teams in the CL group stages, 1/8 and 1/4 finals.
And former small clubs like Spurs are reaping the rewards while floating on TV right money and while the rest of Europe outside the top 4 has to look on.
Easy life.
They make less than Liverpool or Spurs there is no way either of our clubs could afford those wages and be within FFP rules. Pirelli and Jeep for instance are owned by the Agnelli's. Just like PSG and $ity they no doubt inflate the deals.
But you islanders need not complain : EPL and the Championship contains a lot of scum. Arabs, Russians and Asians
4 free CL tickets, no CL qualy, not drawing fellow EPL teams in the CL group stages, 1/8 and 1/4 finals.
And former small clubs like Spurs are reaping the rewards while floating on TV right money and while the rest of Europe outside the top 4 has to look on.
Easy life.
Ascayman said:
I'm not sure that's correct at all levy didn't put any number on him the player wants to go to real, Barca or juve and had they put in an offer it'd have been accepted. We accepted a bid from utd but he wasn't interested in going.
He said in the one interview that he did that he would like a change but were it not to come off he would happily stay, which id guess is what is going to happen now with him leaving next summer to one of the the club's mentioned.
I doubt poch gives a toss about the money, he gets to keep a very good player he knows and likes for another year. I'd imagine he's delighted.
You may well be right on Levy and value, Eriksen won't happily stay IMHO - that's just BS to keep fans from hating him. He wants out to somewhere sunny where the win stuff regularly and who can blame him.He said in the one interview that he did that he would like a change but were it not to come off he would happily stay, which id guess is what is going to happen now with him leaving next summer to one of the the club's mentioned.
I doubt poch gives a toss about the money, he gets to keep a very good player he knows and likes for another year. I'd imagine he's delighted.
If Eriksen puts in a season of effort and quality Poch will be happy, if not i think he'd much rather have the extra 30-50 spent this summer on a decent squad player than have zero extra when he goes on a free.
As for the penalty we definitely disagree, and I am glad Sir Harry isn't immune from some media calling him as cheating yesterday (generally he isn't too bad), VAR has been a joke so far as it seems to be completely spineless and unwilling to overrule any ref
DeltonaS said:
Income tax has come down sign. in Italy for professional athletes I've read somewhere.
They aren't taxed on the first 50% of their income. It was designed to get Italian's working abroad back for better wages to come home and make Italy great again. But likely it was done via bribes from football clubs.
MIGA
Eriksen is now effectively worthless to Spurs as a transfer.
Unless a club comes in in Janauary that is absolutely desperate I guess you could squeeze them for £20m but then that money is just going to come straight out of Eriksen's pocket so why would he agree terms?
He can wait 5 months and at worst will be put on gardening leave.
Unless a club comes in in Janauary that is absolutely desperate I guess you could squeeze them for £20m but then that money is just going to come straight out of Eriksen's pocket so why would he agree terms?
He can wait 5 months and at worst will be put on gardening leave.
ChocolateFrog said:
Eriksen is now effectively worthless to Spurs as a transfer.
Unless a club comes in in Janauary that is absolutely desperate I guess you could squeeze them for £20m but then that money is just going to come straight out of Eriksen's pocket so why would he agree terms?
He can wait 5 months and at worst will be put on gardening leave.
Equally he may have backed himself in to a corner. He only wants to go to Madrid, Juve or Barca. If none of those three come in for him when his contract runs out he either needs to downgrade his expectations and agree a move to a lesser club, or negotiate with Spurs for a new contract.Unless a club comes in in Janauary that is absolutely desperate I guess you could squeeze them for £20m but then that money is just going to come straight out of Eriksen's pocket so why would he agree terms?
He can wait 5 months and at worst will be put on gardening leave.
Either way the good news is that the matter is put to bed for now, and Eriksen has a reason to straighten his head out and start being the player we know he can be to put himself in the shop window which can only have a positive effect on the team + results.
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