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[Black can man]

LoonyTunes said:

Meanwhile other reports have Juve representatives in London to discuss terms with Tottenham/Chelsea for Poch/Sarri.

Silly season is in full swing.

It maybe Roy Hodgson

[franki68]

Pep usually sees out his contract so It would be very out of character for this to happen .

[ChocolateFrog]

Cie said:

Would be great if he does leave for Juventus, then he misses Manchester (fk knows why) and comes back to manage United. With him we comfortably win the Championship and he takes us back up to 6th.

Premier League's a step up from the Championship though.

[Adam B]

Pommy said:

Thoughts on this?

Pep to sign as new Juve manager on 4th June as on 4 year €24m contract

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bs01er/it...

I assume that is 24m per year?

[berlintaxi]

Pommy said:

Thoughts on this?

Pep to sign as new Juve manager on 4th June as on 4 year €24m contract

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bs01er/it...

What would he move for, that isn't much more than he been offered at City, and I don't believe Pep is motivated just by money.

[franki68]

berlintaxi said:

What would he move for, that isn't much more than he been offered at City, and I don't believe Pep is motivated just by money.

He is going nowhere but he does likes the challenge of taking over a leagues best team with the best players and spending a lot of money to make them even better ,and making them domestically supreme .

[stuartmmcfc]

If only it was that easy. Just ask Maureen

[franki68]

stuartmmcfc said:

If only it was that easy. Just ask Maureen

Did Jose take over the best squad in the league ?

Has he ever taken over the strongest team in the league anywhere ? Real ,Porto,Chelsea,inter,united

I doubt if pep moves to Italy he would take on say fiorentina .

[GTO-3R]

franki68 said:

stuartmmcfc said:

If only it was that easy. Just ask Maureen

Did Jose take over the best squad in the league ?

Has he ever taken over the strongest team in the league anywhere ? Real ,Porto,Chelsea,inter,united

I doubt if pep moves to Italy he would take on say fiorentina .

Precisely.

Pep can only do it at clubs that will spend vast amounts on an already top squad. That's why it didn't work at Bayern as they don't operate like that and he couldn't buy success.

[Rosscow]

GTO-3R said:

franki68 said:

stuartmmcfc said:

If only it was that easy. Just ask Maureen

Did Jose take over the best squad in the league ?

Has he ever taken over the strongest team in the league anywhere ? Real ,Porto,Chelsea,inter,united

I doubt if pep moves to Italy he would take on say fiorentina .

Precisely.

Pep can only do it at clubs that will spend vast amounts on an already top squad. That's why it didn't work at Bayern as they don't operate like that and he couldn't buy success.

Didn't work at Bayern?

3 league titles and 2 national cups in 3 years is a shocking return, I agree. Also 3 CL semi finals. It's actually better than he's managed in England in the same time.

[franki68]

Rosscow said:

GTO-3R said:

franki68 said:

stuartmmcfc said:

If only it was that easy. Just ask Maureen

Did Jose take over the best squad in the league ?

Has he ever taken over the strongest team in the league anywhere ? Real ,Porto,Chelsea,inter,united

I doubt if pep moves to Italy he would take on say fiorentina .

Precisely.

Pep can only do it at clubs that will spend vast amounts on an already top squad. That's why it didn't work at Bayern as they don't operate like that and he couldn't buy success.

Didn't work at Bayern?

3 league titles and 2 national cups in 3 years is a shocking return, I agree. Also 3 CL semi finals. It's actually better than he's managed in England in the same time.

They were the best team in the world when he took them over ,they were a fantastic team who won the treble.Winning the German league with Bayern
Is not difficult .
It’s wrong to say it didn’t work but he actually made them worse both in terms of winning in Europe and to watch ,they became dull .Like Barca did as well,city is the first time he’s made a team more entertaining.

Unlike a lot of managers he is compared to ,he’s never turned excrement into gold,he starts with gold and polishes it although with Bayern (and city so far)the polish faded in the latter stages of the European cup.

[Wacky Racer]

Pep could take over Stalybridge Celtic and have them in the Premiership within eight years.

The man's a genius.

[jammy-git]

Wacky Racer said:

Pep could take over Stalybridge Celtic and have them in the Premiership within eight years.

The man's a genius.

Only if he had the money to buy the best players in the division.

[GTO-3R]

Wacky Racer said:

Pep could take over Stalybridge Celtic and have them in the Premiership within eight years.

The man's a genius.

If he was such a genius then he would have turned the talented youngsters you HAD in to the top class players they are now. He just buys success.

[stuartmmcfc]

I don’t think it’s necessarily about the money, more about talent (which is often, but not always linked). Peps genius is in developing and nurturing talent - look at how good Sterling, Aguero, KdB, Foden etc have become since he has been involved.
I didn’t think they could get better but Pep found that little more.
The dressing room and spirit appear to be the best I’ve seen in years.
Those who say they’d like to see him do it without the money are missing the point of what he’s so good at.

[NRS]

GTO-3R said:

Wacky Racer said:

Pep could take over Stalybridge Celtic and have them in the Premiership within eight years.

The man's a genius.

If he was such a genius then he would have turned the talented youngsters you HAD in to the top class players they are now. He just buys success.

All top managers basically do that though. Very few young players that have come through the ranks in the top say 6 teams in the league? However most of those managers have been seen with poor squads as they climb the ranks. Pep has always had decent players, so we have no idea how he'd do with say a Cardiff.

[E65Ross]

I love how people are saying things like Pep can't work with a lower club and bring success as if it's a fact. Can someone show me an example of a lower club that he has worked at, and failed, to show me that he couldn't do it?

[stuartmmcfc]

E65Ross said:

I love how people are saying things like Pep can't work with a lower club and bring success as if it's a fact. Can someone show me an example of a lower club that he has worked at, and failed, to show me that he couldn't do it?

To be fait, I don’t think even he could be successful at United.

[franki68]

stuartmmcfc said:

I don’t think it’s necessarily about the money, more about talent (which is often, but not always linked). Peps genius is in developing and nurturing talent - look at how good Sterling, Aguero, KdB, Foden etc have become since he has been involved.
I didn’t think they could get better but Pep found that little more.
The dressing room and spirit appear to be the best I’ve seen in years.
Those who say they’d like to see him do it without the money are missing the point of what he’s so good at.

No one will disagree ,although I’m not sure he improved Aguero really ,but the point is he has only ever had gold to work with.His ability to maximise the ability of the players he works with along with his motivational ability is unquestionable ,but he has to have a certain level of player capable of playing the way he wants and that requires a great starting block and substantial funding.
I’d love to have him at United ,but doubt he would have achieved what he has at city with the United team say that Jose inherited,at least not without spending 1/2 billion+.

[jammy-git]

E65Ross said:

I love how people are saying things like Pep can't work with a lower club and bring success as if it's a fact. Can someone show me an example of a lower club that he has worked at, and failed, to show me that he couldn't do it?

His first season at City. He came in to a title winning team, but didn't have the players to fit his system. He was unable to coach the ones he inherited and City finished 3rd, just ahead of an average Liverpool and Arsenal.

Everyone said he couldn't make it in the Premier League, that his system wouldn't work here. It wasn't until he went and bought ready made players for particular positions that it all came together.