The Official Manchester City (World Club Champions)Thread

[G-wiz]

Arse have dropped points to minnows Liverpool, West Ham and Southampton.

Is impossible for you to not win the title, with gifts like that.

[stuartmmcfc]

The older ones among us still expect City to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
It’s a deep rooted fear I don’t think I’ll ever be able to shake off

[brownspeed]

/\ /\ what he said!! /\ /\ ---We were there when we were $h!t

[Wacky Racer]

My first game at Maine Road v Blackpool in 1961, I've seen plenty of st over the years.

Nothing City do would surprise me

[stuartmmcfc]

I’m thinking about the Arsenal game far more than todays match.

[tamore]

stuartmmcfc said:

The older ones among us still expect City to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
It’s a deep rooted fear I don’t think I’ll ever be able to shake off

like time wasting against liverpool in '96 when we actually needed a goal to stay up. people wonder where 'typical city' came from….

[waynedear]

Wacky Racer said:

My first game at Maine Road v Blackpool in 1961, I've seen plenty of st over the years.

Nothing City do would surprise me

I was born in 1961 in Blackpool, became a city fan in 69.
If we had not moved to Manchester, if I had not been hit by a car, if I had not been in Withington Hostpital and apparently met Mike Summerbee I may have been a life Blackpool fan.

[Wacky Racer]

waynedear said:

Wacky Racer said:

My first game at Maine Road v Blackpool in 1961, I've seen plenty of st over the years.

Nothing City do would surprise me

I was born in 1961 in Blackpool, became a city fan in 69.
If we had not moved to Manchester, if I had not been hit by a car, if I had not been in Withington Hostpital and apparently met Mike Summerbee I may have been a life Blackpool fan.

Good man.

[57Ford]

Wtf is VAR there for? I was quite enjoying this match but that’s spoiled it.
Just need to add, it’s not spoiled because City got a goal. It’s because the penalty decision was wrong. The balance of the game can change now because if it got to the hour mark still level, both teams would be jittery.

Edited by 57Ford on Saturday 22 April 17:38

[tamore]

he definitely touched the ball first, but is the follow through what did it?

[57Ford]

I suppose that’s possible but even then it’s damned harsh because it’s not like the follow through was a leg-breaker with studs up.
Ciry don’t need a leg up against this quality so it’s highly likely that decision has killed it for SU.

[tamore]

i'd be annoyed if that was given against to be honest. as you say, surely what VAR was put in place for. ref didn't see the touch he got on the ball, VAR must have.

[57Ford]

I’m enjoying it even less now (but fortunately it’s for the right reasons)

[jammy-git]

tamore said:

i'd be annoyed if that was given against to be honest. as you say, surely what VAR was put in place for. ref didn't see the touch he got on the ball, VAR must have.

Doesn't matter if you get the ball (first or not), you can't take the player out at the same time.

[tamore]

final against brighton will be tougher

[57Ford]

jammy-git said:

Doesn't matter if you get the ball (first or not), you can't take the player out at the same time.

Err, what? That definitely can’t be correct. If you get the ball first, it’s perfectly acceptable to trip the opponent afterwards else how on earth is a classic slide-tackle still legal?
As we’ve said already, if you’re out of control or use excessive force, it matters not whether you got the ball before hurting someone but in this case it wasn’t dangerous.

Just glad it didn’t lead to SU pushing up and getting caught because they were a goal down, they were still playing their game the same way at that stage.

[57Ford]

tamore said:

final against brighton will be tougher

Well, we’ll do our best to tire them out for you tomorrow.

[jammy-git]

57Ford said:

jammy-git said:

Doesn't matter if you get the ball (first or not), you can't take the player out at the same time.

Err, what? That definitely can’t be correct. If you get the ball first, it’s perfectly acceptable to trip the opponent afterwards else how on earth is a classic slide-tackle still legal?
As we’ve said already, if you’re out of control or use excessive force, it matters not whether you got the ball before hurting someone but in this case it wasn’t dangerous.

Just glad it didn’t lead to SU pushing up and getting caught because they were a goal down, they were still playing their game the same way at that stage.

I agree, the rules are an arse. But read them, they make no distinction of whether the player got the ball or not. If you trip a player whilst challenging for the ball it's a foul.

[gringonuts]

57Ford said:

Err, what? That definitely can’t be correct. If you get the ball first, it’s perfectly acceptable to trip the opponent afterwards else how on earth is a classic slide-tackle still legal?
As we’ve said already, if you’re out of control or use excessive force, it matters not whether you got the ball before hurting someone but in this case it wasn’t dangerous.

Just glad it didn’t lead to SU pushing up and getting caught because they were a goal down, they were still playing their game the same way at that stage.

I’m afraid that it’s been a thing for a long time…yes, you can get the ball first and as long as that touch clears it away from the opponent then your follow through can connect (subject to excessive force etc as you say). However, if your touch doesn’t move the ball far enough such that the opponent could still have recovered the ball then “taking the opponent out” after touching the ball is a foul. Life was so much simpler when you could shout “but he got the ball” but…
(I should add that I’ve not seen the incident so you could still be right…just trying the clarify the law).

[bigpriest]

Have you had a re-think yet? The close-up slo-mo, to me, shows the outside of Silva's boot touch the ball first to move it away from the defender, then the defender swipes him. Not clear and obvious so shouldn't it be out of the reach of VAR anyway?