The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 17]

[jammy-git]

Titfer said:

Flip Martian said:

Lovren at least has done some good things for the team at times. Karius spent more time talking himself up and then not backing that up.

Agreed.

I reckon he's had his day with us. But he gives a st and puts a shift plus THAT goal in the champions league.

Karius was having a good season with us up until the CL final. He wasn't a world class keeper but he was easily as good a keeper as Lovren is a defender.

And you're talking about Lovren, the self professed "best defender in the world".

I'd say they're on par with each other. Both were capable of having great games. Both capable of calamitous mistakes. Both no longer good enough for the top, top level.

[jammy-git]

type-r said:

jammy-git said:

(but he only passes sideways)

Always amuses me when people quote this. He finally evolves his game but people still use the quote which was very appropriate 24 months ago.

IMO it was never warranted. Whilst Kenny and Rodgers were here his passing was great. In the first couple of seasons with Klopp I think it was clear that there were particular passing options Klopp wanted out midfield to use. It wasn't that he couldn't pass forward, but it was his job not to lose possession.

[Flip Martian]

jammy-git said:

Karius was having a good season with us up until the CL final. He wasn't a world class keeper but he was easily as good a keeper as Lovren is a defender.

And you're talking about Lovren, the self professed "best defender in the world".

I'd say they're on par with each other. Both were capable of having great games. Both capable of calamitous mistakes. Both no longer good enough for the top, top level.

I can't remember 1 time Karius made a great save. I just can't, sorry. He was no more competent than Mings - clean sheets were more down to the defence than either of them making worldie saves.

[type-r]

jammy-git said:

IMO it was never warranted. Whilst Kenny and Rodgers were here his passing was great. In the first couple of seasons with Klopp I think it was clear that there were particular passing options Klopp wanted out midfield to use. It wasn't that he couldn't pass forward, but it was his job not to lose possession.

You might well be right - could have been a specific Klopp instruction - however it was flawed. A tactic that has rightly been binned and Henderson's game is now built on his strengths - great long passes forward, his engine room pressing and his leadership.

[type-r]

FFS. VARcical.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Definitely a push.

[Titfer]

Not good.

Heavy metal football needed now lads.

[Chris Stott]

WTF... push on Gomez FFS.

[anonymous-user]

Gomez too weak.

Think you’d be unhappy if that was given the other way around.

[Chris Stott]

LiVARpool... yeah sure.

fking joke.

[Flip Martian]

Well that's one for the LiVARpool jokes. What a cock up that is. The whole world sees that push,

[Flip Martian]

I think this season will be remembered for some terrible, weird refereeing decisions.

[type-r]

We need to wake up. Could have easily been 2-0. Fortunately Ake's header straight at Adrian.

We need to tighten up defensively. Atletico will have a field day come Weds.

[Cie]

Flip Martian said:

I think this season will be remembered for some terrible, weird refereeing decisions.

Absolutely, and zero else.

[Yidwann]

Look at you lot getting pissy when one doesn’t go your way! When you’ve had it go your way the majority of the season! Now you’re getting squeaky! You’re still going to win the league!

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Is the pressure getting to the players ?

VVD doesn't look the Giant he has been all season, the front 3 look disjointed and midfield is being walked through at times.

[Titfer]

We are relying on VvD spraying it about too much. Slows the game down too much.

Judging by the lack of noise the crowd is as nervous as me.

Adrian lucky there as well.

[bitchstewie]

As a neutral this is very weird.

Awful VAR decision but you look to be playing scared for lack of a better word.

[Titfer]

Flip Martian said:

Good feeling about today anyway. Come on, Red Men.

How are you feeling now?

[Pommy]

fk winter and international breaks. Were fking terrible EVERYTIME afterwards