The Official Everton thread - Vol 2
Discussion
The G Kid said:
johnboy1975 said:
2 pts. I'll take that. Awaiting breakdown.
As 3 seems to be the min for breaking the rules, you must have been nice to them to get a reduction. I wonder if you will appeal?ETA, seems you have already appealed.
Edited by The G Kid on Monday 8th April 14:14
Personally I'd rather appeal the 6 points (first sanction) than the 2. Can't see how it's reduced further, and whilst everyone says there's no danger of it increasing, there's always the Everton factor to consider (what can go wrong will go wrong)
The G Kid said:
Yup, and Everton take note of this lack of consistency in their press release.
Whilst true (there have been 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2 pts issued now) every commission has ended up with 6 points as a starting point. Barring the first who just went nuts before it was pointed out to them you only get 9 for administration.And what are we appealing? That we got less than Forest (the previous smallest punishment at 4) and we want more???
GT03ROB said:
No fan of you lot, but feel you are being treated appallingly. How can a club or even the rest of the league know where they stand with these point penalties constantly changing. It's an utter farce & bringing the game into disrepute.
Forest fan here and completely agree - what a joke for all of us hope the pl gets sued I suppose in appealing the 2 points we are desperately clutching at straws that we get something back, if we go down by one point. AfterThe last game of season we could still get points back but I think unlikely,
Let's just get on with it and win 2 or 3 more games.
We have better goal difference so 3 points above relagtion.
Let's just get on with it and win 2 or 3 more games.
We have better goal difference so 3 points above relagtion.
Just read that there may be still more to come due to the new ground. PL arguing that interest isn’t spending on infrastructure and should be part of the ffp equation!
What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
ellroy said:
Just read that there may be still more to come due to the new ground. PL arguing that interest isn’t spending on infrastructure and should be part of the ffp equation!
What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
Did read that , it did say it wouldn't be this season that's next seasons little present from the PL.What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
Think this big mess has a long way to go for a fair few clubs .
ellroy said:
Just read that there may be still more to come due to the new ground. PL arguing that interest isn’t spending on infrastructure and should be part of the ffp equation!
What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
As I understand it, Everton were hit by material/construction cost increases part way through the stadium build. How do the PL expect clubs to foresee those sort of things, which are out of their control. Those sort of increases are linked to inflation, wars elsewhere etc etc. The whole thing is a joke and I feel for all clubs getting hit at the moment. What an utter croc. So if you’ve got capital, or are in massive debt already with decent T/O you can essentially get away with murder, if not we’ll hammer you.
Whole thing stinks.
I'm a Man City fan, used to have a season ticket and been going for years, but I'm ultimately a football fan and the game is ruined. There's no way on earth we should escape without charges or points deductions and it is very difficult not to get annoyed with how the game is nowadays.
Edited by towser44 on Monday 8th April 17:05
The G Kid said:
johnboy1975 said:
And what are we appealing? That we got less than Forest (the previous smallest punishment at 4) and we want more???
You make a good point there! The fair play regs are the right thing in general but at the moment it's not really being dealt with appropriately.
Has anyone else seen we're likely to have another round of points deductions next season? For a club that's owned by an accountant, we really are s
t at maths 
Also total points the PL wanted to deduct us this season.... 17. Seventeen points when it's only 9 for going in to administration. They really don't like us stinking the place out season after season do they?
t at maths Also total points the PL wanted to deduct us this season.... 17. Seventeen points when it's only 9 for going in to administration. They really don't like us stinking the place out season after season do they?
Fast Bug said:
(1)Has anyone else seen we're likely to have another round of points deductions next season? For a club that's owned by an accountant, we really are st at maths
(2)Also total points the PL wanted to deduct us this season.... 17. Seventeen points when it's only 9 for going in to administration. They really don't like us stinking the place out season after season do they?
Re 1, do you have any figures? As far as I'm concerned we've cut to the bone. Failing next season is a concern, I can only put that down to the stadium. Worth noting double jeopardy was accepted (I think?), in reducing the point deduction from 5 down to 2. So... potentially no charge on years already accounted for (with a fair wind, and a benevolent Independent Commission, of course t at maths (2)Also total points the PL wanted to deduct us this season.... 17. Seventeen points when it's only 9 for going in to administration. They really don't like us stinking the place out season after season do they?
) Plus of course the rumours about a "luxury tax" instead of points deductions. Or is that only for the big clubs? 
Or do you mean the dispute over 6 million of our losses, mentioned earlier. They will come for this, but possibly not in time for this season. Again, our defence is it's stadium spend, or interest thereon.
Figures wise I think we made a trading profit in 22/23? So unless there's loads of mega earners lurking in the background, I don't see how the loss is so big. Which circles back to something I may have mentioned before, stadium spend. It had better be bloody worth it...
Re2, is that based on "recommended 12" plus "recommended 5"? Anything to say they only recommended 5 this time, or have they wisely shut their fking gob this time? Haven't seen a recommendation from them at any rate. Are these recommendations made in counsel to the IC, or just chatting s
t in public?Fast Bug said:
Yes talking about the £6m disputed over interest payments on the stadium, could be a hearing next year.
And the PL suggested 5 points for this breach and suggested 12 points for our first breach. So 17 in total, that would've been the way to flush the unflushable
Doesn't seem too arduous, during a 2 day hearing, to determine where the money ended up. Clue no1, no Mbappe. Clue no 2, look at that socking great stadium rising out of the dock. (I jest - but it should all be down on paper, so the club should, and presumably did, present it? So why the massive delay???)And the PL suggested 5 points for this breach and suggested 12 points for our first breach. So 17 in total, that would've been the way to flush the unflushable
Table makes grim viewing with -17 (a further 9 points), we'd be sandwiched between Sheffield Utd and Burnley - and Luton would be 7 clear of us
https://twitter.com/GiuliaBould/status/17773397531...
Richard Masters has it in for us.
Not exactly breaking news
said:
In the summary (point 256) the IC ruled "many if not most of the criticisms levelled against the Club (#EFC) by the Premier League are unwarranted, overstated, or both
Richard Masters has it in for us. Not exactly breaking news
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