The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 13]
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TEKNOPUG said:
Shame he's leaving on a free in 18months once we withdraw our contract offer...
I only just realised it's 2 years left, not 3 years to 2023 - not actually that long. Time is passing fast, doesn't feel like it's almost 2021! I was thinking in general for players with 3 years plus it's less needed and better to offer with 2 years left. Which is basically where you are now. 
NRS said:
Fittster might be a bit negative, but there is some truth behind his posts. At some point you don't want to offer big contracts to an old player. Now of course you need to balance that with the risk they want to go for a free and run the clock down to get a big payday, but that comes with the risk of getting an injury and having no contract. Ideally you'd also want to sell a player just at their peak, and use the big money to get the next star in (with the risk of not finding them and wasting the money). Of course the big drop-off from an attacker is often related to pace - a lot of attackers will rely on this, which is fine when young but later it will cause problems if you don't have much good decision making or ball control. So it'd depend on the type of player for worrying about that 30 plus years contracts.
If we sell Dele perhaps we can buy some coaches so we can inject some of those superior* training methods into our legs so they don't break as much. Or at least swap him for a bounty bar.
I agree we still have far too much dross in the team. However I'll come out and say it now, I'm still not convinced by Joseball.
Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Guvernator said:
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Well, your hopes have been met 
Our best form in years. COYS!
Guvernator said:
I agree we still have far too much dross in the team. However I'll come out and say it now, I'm still not convinced by Joseball.
Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Unless you are a Petro-Dollar club, you can't hope to have quality in every squad place. You will always have 4 or 5 weaker "squad" players. The secret is to never have them all on the pitch at the same time...Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Even if the 11 you start the match with are better individually than the oppo, you can't expect them to perform as well against a team who have been playing together all season.
I don't understand why you don't start your best team and then gradually introduce the other players through the match. Rather than starting the B team and then having to bring on all the players you are supposed to be resting anyway.
It's a gamble that the B team are good enough and you can actually rest players. Somewhat disrespectful to the Oppo and the bigger clubs get found out all the time.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Thursday 29th October 21:15
TEKNOPUG said:
Guvernator said:
I agree we still have far too much dross in the team. However I'll come out and say it now, I'm still not convinced by Joseball.
Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Unless you are a Petro-Dollar club, you can't hope to have quality in every squad place. You will always have 4 or 5 weaker "squad" players. The secret is to never have them all on the pitch at the same time...Take away the 3 or 4 crap players and we still have a very high quality side now and yet we hardly ever dominate games. I think I can only remember two games where we've actually won convincingly this season.
I hope I'm wrong but I think people have been boyed by the decent transfer business we've done and forgotten Jose has to get them to actually play together. So far he's not convinced me he's really capable of that.
Even if the 11 you start the match with are better individually than the oppo, you can't expect them to perform as well against a team who have been playing together all season.
I don't understand why you don't start your best team and then gradually introduce the other players through the match. Rather than starting the B team and then having to bring on all the players you are supposed to be resting anyway.
It's a gamble that the B team are good enough and you can actually rest players. Somewhat disrespectful to the Oppo and the bigger clubs get found out all the time.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Thursday 29th October 21:15
This is the best Spurs quad in terms of depth/cover I can remember for a while but swapping in 9 players from the start and expecting it to work is a massive gamble (ironic of course that the only outfield player from the league side to keep his place was the one who made the mistake for their goal). Start with your strong side and swap in players if you're winning. None of the players are bad players but football is a team game and it's as much about on-field relationships and familiar patterns of play as it is individual skill.
We also seem to have this mentality when playing what we deem to be lesser teams that we can just stroll around with little intensity and we'll still win, when most of the time it never turns out like that and then we get to 70 minutes and still haven't scored and the pressure builds and builds and then sometimes it doesn't come off.
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