The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 13]
Discussion
Robdabank said:
Do we go back to Poch or try elsewhere?
We go to Brentford and buy their computer system, then we hire a coach who follows the orders of the computer.Get a director of football who believes in analytics (e.g. like Paul Mitchell) then give me power over the first team coach, while Levy takes more of a back seat on football matters.
Or just let Levy take random punts.
300sl-24 said:
Many saw this coming when Poch was replaced by Jose, boring, boring and more boring...
I really wanted to believe there would be a fresh start - or at least a glimpse of success.There appears to be not one iota of fluidity in the team... I find it hard to believe that the manager can have sole responsibility for literally every player performing so badly.
In the event that Mr.Levy agrees that the team needs overhauling, I shudder to think what bargain basement offers he will oversee in the post-Covid era.
We have the stadium that I think most Premiership clubs envy... our training facility and academy all top-notch - and then everything turns to ste on the field.
I really hope this gets sorted out soon, but I have written off this season now. (And I truly hope that these words come back to haunt me as we go on a win streak for our remaining games!)
Roll on Sunday...
Robdabank said:
There appears to be not one iota of fluidity in the team... I find it hard to believe that the manager can have sole responsibility for literally every player performing so badly.
As a It'd fan who went through this, believe it, the man is toxic, there were numerous reports once we'd got rid of him of upset not only with the players but all the other staff tooWe're now 17 games unbeaten and playing nice football and we've only bought 4 players since he left one of whom isn't a regular starter, yes Bruno has made a difference but it's not all him
I'd be doing anything I could as a fan (appreciate not much) to get him out ASAP
that's 3 games on the spin that have been awful in terms of team and individual performance, with the 4th coming up on Sunday.
Lets take a wild guess that the players have already fallen out with the management team...…….
I would take any other manager in the premier league and championship, over Jose.
Lets take a wild guess that the players have already fallen out with the management team...…….
I would take any other manager in the premier league and championship, over Jose.
anonymous said:
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Sadly I think we're stuck with him till he's had at least a summer transfer window and a full season in charge. Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to ste.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
48k said:
Sadly I think we're stuck with him till he's had at least a summer transfer window and a full season in charge.
Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to ste.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
I also thought listening to him before he took your job that he was going to come in and play this expansive style of football that seems to be the in thing at the moment, almost like he felt people didnt think he had it in him so he would come back and show people.Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to ste.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
If people get bored of him and premium tickets struggle to sell I imagine its then Levy will act (obviously if we can get back into stadiums anytime soon)
The players need to take some responsibility too. Have they all forgotten how to play? Has Jose really told them to stop attacking, slow the play down, pass the ball backwards? There are plenty of experienced players there who shouldn't need detailed instructions before every match about how to stick the ball in the bet.
TEKNOPUG said:
The players need to take some responsibility too. Have they all forgotten how to play? Has Jose really told them to stop attacking, slow the play down, pass the ball backwards? There are plenty of experienced players there who shouldn't need detailed instructions before every match about how to stick the ball in the bet.
Isn't this exactly what happened at Utd though. Jose comes in and all of a sudden nearly the whole team starts to under-perform.Clearly, Jose was right when he said that Utd needed to be rebuilt, and it's clear to see the impact that the likes of Fernandes has had. But let's not think that a good man-manager coach couldn't get more confidence and better performances out of both that Utd team and this current Spurs team.
jammy-git said:
TEKNOPUG said:
The players need to take some responsibility too. Have they all forgotten how to play? Has Jose really told them to stop attacking, slow the play down, pass the ball backwards? There are plenty of experienced players there who shouldn't need detailed instructions before every match about how to stick the ball in the bet.
Isn't this exactly what happened at Utd though. Jose comes in and all of a sudden nearly the whole team starts to under-perform.Clearly, Jose was right when he said that Utd needed to be rebuilt, and it's clear to see the impact that the likes of Fernandes has had. But let's not think that a good man-manager coach couldn't get more confidence and better performances out of both that Utd team and this current Spurs team.
Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, Pogba, Martial all suffered under Jose, it doesn't mean they are now world beaters but they are a lot better than was being shown
His whole focus seems to be not to lose the game, ball retention is a must and he will publicly fall out with you, call you out or just plain drop/isolate you if you don't stick to his plan
So players lack confidence to take risks and play safe passes and you end up where you are now
I know he's had injuries but Kane has 14 goals this season, Ndombele looks to currently be a disaster but who knows really (see Fred) and the football is turgid, as a Spurs fan I'd hope he's given nothing to spend but also isn't allowed to bin players that you may later regret
m3sye said:
48k said:
Sadly I think we're stuck with him till he's had at least a summer transfer window and a full season in charge.
Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to ste.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
I also thought listening to him before he took your job that he was going to come in and play this expansive style of football that seems to be the in thing at the moment, almost like he felt people didnt think he had it in him so he would come back and show people.Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to ste.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
If people get bored of him and premium tickets struggle to sell I imagine its then Levy will act (obviously if we can get back into stadiums anytime soon)
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