The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 13]
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GTO-3R said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Nothing.
Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
But surely if the buying club know he’s handed one in then it puts levy on the back foot negotiating?Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
Levy? Back foot?
If - and these combinations are such massive ifs that they not worth considering but let's humour it for a second - "if "Kane put in a transfer request, and "if " there was a club putting in an offer, and "if" the offer did not match Levy's valuation - the answer is simply "no". "no" to the enquiring club - you will not buy this player for less than our valuation, and "no" the player - you are on a four year contract if you want to rot in the reserves you will, you signed the contract you honour it.
48k said:
GTO-3R said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Nothing.
Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
But surely if the buying club know he’s handed one in then it puts levy on the back foot negotiating?Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
Levy? Back foot?
If - and these combinations are such massive ifs that they not worth considering but let's humour it for a second - "if "Kane put in a transfer request, and "if " there was a club putting in an offer, and "if" the offer did not match Levy's valuation - the answer is simply "no". "no" to the enquiring club - you will not buy this player for less than our valuation, and "no" the player - you are on a four year contract if you want to rot in the reserves you will, you signed the contract you honour it.
Where's Bergwijn?
bolidemichael said:
We were on a downward curve before we got the CL final, remember. The legacy is one of missed opportunities for investment, perhaps for legitimate reasons with regards to financing the stadium, but
the deferred investment is now showing.
Levy lucked out on Poch and Kane.the deferred investment is now showing.
anonymous said:
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I really cannot see Kane costing more than Haaland. I think Kane is likely to be £120-150m tops. Haaland will mostly like start at £150m and go up from there if there is a bidding war. Plus, rumours are that Haaland's agent wants to make him the first £1m a week player. Kane would be around a quarter of that.I could definitely see Utd going in for Kane and City and Real going in for Haaland.
Leicester Loyal said:
48k said:
GTO-3R said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Nothing.
Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
But surely if the buying club know he’s handed one in then it puts levy on the back foot negotiating?Someone still has to pay Levy what he wants.
Levy? Back foot?
If - and these combinations are such massive ifs that they not worth considering but let's humour it for a second - "if "Kane put in a transfer request, and "if " there was a club putting in an offer, and "if" the offer did not match Levy's valuation - the answer is simply "no". "no" to the enquiring club - you will not buy this player for less than our valuation, and "no" the player - you are on a four year contract if you want to rot in the reserves you will, you signed the contract you honour it.
Where's Bergwijn?
And that's just from the club's perspective. He's a human being at the end of the day. As I've said on here many times - Kane is a home boy. He's from north London, he married his childhood sweetheart from school, both sets of grandparents are within babysitting distance of the Kane household.... If he moves anywhere it would be to one of the Manchester clubs, I can't see him going abroad.
48k said:
Levy? Back foot?
If - and these combinations are such massive ifs that they not worth considering but let's humour it for a second - "if "Kane put in a transfer request, and "if " there was a club putting in an offer, and "if" the offer did not match Levy's valuation - the answer is simply "no". "no" to the enquiring club - you will not buy this player for less than our valuation, and "no" the player - you are on a four year contract if you want to rot in the reserves you will, you signed the contract you honour it.
Why do the transfer norms apply to all players / teams apart from Kane?
If he wants a move he will hand in a request, word will spread and it becomes a matter of time and money. Values have probably come down since Covid so he is probably a 150-200m player, wages 250k a week maybe, the buying club could pay him the same amount as a lost loyalty payment.
He is 28 soon so that value will diminish next year as contract length decreases.
I think it is more likely he stays as no one who could pay that sum will be after him, City will buy Haaland, not sure Spanish sides have the money or whether he wants to go abroad. United most likely IMO but not sure if they will spend that versus develop what they have
We have some very talented players at the club, Kane, Son, Ndombele, Hojbjerg, Reggie, Lo Celso (not so much lately) but we also have some right dross. Poch somehow got the dross playing a bit better which allowed our real talent to shine. Jose doesn't have the ability to make s
t players decent and in fact he's made some decent players very poor (Dele)
Due to underinvestment, we've now got to a point where the dross outweighs the talent. We also have a manager whose play style effectively shackles our best players in attack while putting a huge onus on our worst players in defence which is just crazy. Why would you not try play to your strengths rather than your weaknesses? Unfortunately Jose knows no other way.
So we are stuck with a manager whose play style doesn't fit Spurs, rubbish players who haven't been replaced for years and a chairman who puts making a profit above winning things.
Frankly Poch performed miracles for 2-3 years but even he knew it couldn't last without serious reinvestment, he tried to tell Levy as much but got sacked for his troubles.
Levy, Jose and 5 or 6 players need to be changed, in that order.
t players decent and in fact he's made some decent players very poor (Dele) Due to underinvestment, we've now got to a point where the dross outweighs the talent. We also have a manager whose play style effectively shackles our best players in attack while putting a huge onus on our worst players in defence which is just crazy. Why would you not try play to your strengths rather than your weaknesses? Unfortunately Jose knows no other way.
So we are stuck with a manager whose play style doesn't fit Spurs, rubbish players who haven't been replaced for years and a chairman who puts making a profit above winning things.
Frankly Poch performed miracles for 2-3 years but even he knew it couldn't last without serious reinvestment, he tried to tell Levy as much but got sacked for his troubles.
Levy, Jose and 5 or 6 players need to be changed, in that order.
Adam. said:
48k said:
Levy? Back foot?
If - and these combinations are such massive ifs that they not worth considering but let's humour it for a second - "if "Kane put in a transfer request, and "if " there was a club putting in an offer, and "if" the offer did not match Levy's valuation - the answer is simply "no". "no" to the enquiring club - you will not buy this player for less than our valuation, and "no" the player - you are on a four year contract if you want to rot in the reserves you will, you signed the contract you honour it.
Why do the transfer norms apply to all players / teams apart from Kane?
If he wants a move he will hand in a request, word will spread and it becomes a matter of time and money. Values have probably come down since Covid so he is probably a 150-200m player, wages 250k a week maybe, the buying club could pay him the same amount as a lost loyalty payment.
He is 27 so that value will diminish next year as contract length decreases.
I think it is more likely he stays as no one who could pay that sum will be after him, City will buy Haaland, not sure Spanish sides have the money or whether he wants to go abroad. United most likely IMO but not sure if they will spend that versus develop what they have
jammy-git said:
I really cannot see Kane costing more than Haaland. I think Kane is likely to be £120-150m tops. Haaland will mostly like start at £150m and go up from there if there is a bidding war. Plus, rumours are that Haaland's agent wants to make him the first £1m a week player. Kane would be around a quarter of that.
I could definitely see Utd going in for Kane and City and Real going in for Haaland.
Levy will want a number starting with a 2. I expect the minimum he'd accept will be 150m+. Kane is already on 200k so he is going to expect a lot more than that if he costs 9 figures. Hazard is on 400k+ and Suarez & Griezman are on 500k+ etc. I could definitely see Utd going in for Kane and City and Real going in for Haaland.
Where has all this talk of Hallaand being a £150m player come from? I've watched him a few times for both Dortmund and Norway and sorry but I don't see a £150m. Sure he has a lot of potential but to me he is still a largely unproven player. His team are currently 5th in a two team league and he hasn't exactly been on fire for Norway.
Let him come to the PL and stick 25-30 goals away for a couple of seasons, then we can start talking about £150m valuations.
Let him come to the PL and stick 25-30 goals away for a couple of seasons, then we can start talking about £150m valuations.
Whatever number Levy would want for Kane now, his value is likely to be close to 50% of that number in just over 12 months time.
In a couple of years, Hugo will virtually be at the end of his career, if Kane is still with you, he'll be one year away from the end of his contract and in the twilight of his career, same with Toby, Doherty, Lamela, Sissoko... That's quite a few of your established first team players that need to be replaced over the next few seasons. There's really only Kane and Alli that could be sold to help fund purchases, unless the new stadium is helping to boost those commercial finances?
In a couple of years, Hugo will virtually be at the end of his career, if Kane is still with you, he'll be one year away from the end of his contract and in the twilight of his career, same with Toby, Doherty, Lamela, Sissoko... That's quite a few of your established first team players that need to be replaced over the next few seasons. There's really only Kane and Alli that could be sold to help fund purchases, unless the new stadium is helping to boost those commercial finances?
TEKNOPUG said:
Levy will want a number starting with a 2. I expect the minimum he'd accept will be 150m+. Kane is already on 200k so he is going to expect a lot more than that if he costs 9 figures. Hazard is on 400k+ and Suarez & Griezman are on 500k+ etc.
I can see 150m being offered by United maybeThose wages are pre CV, who is highest in UK? KdB on 320? Kane is already paid huge sums, I suspect he would go to a bigger club for a 25% pay increase and a chance of major trophies
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