The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 13]

[anonymous-user]

Wadeski said:

West Ham? Shrewd signings? Sure this year they have had some luck, but over the last 20, they have had an atrocious record! Thhe number of past-it, injury-prone foreign players they have spent big money on is hilarious.

The stats this year suggest their luck is largely down to lack of fans, they've been one of the main clubs to perform above the norm in an empty stadium

[mickk]

anonymous said:

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They have an advantage the fans are normally so far away from the pitch it's exactly like playing in an empty stadium.

[anonymous-user]

mickk said:

They have an advantage the fans are normally so far away from the pitch it's exactly like playing in an empty stadium.

[Guvernator]

CourtAgain said:

Hammers have done well not having someone as toxic as Jose Mourinho who has even managed to pee Son off. I imagine after Friday he's gone if it's a substantial loss

Son is one of the most positive and passionate players I've seen at Spurs. If you've managed to piss him off to the point where he looks miserable, then you know you are doing something terribly wrong.

[Wadeski]

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

[ChocolateFrog]

Guvernator said:

jammy-git said:

True. But there is spending lots of money on lots of average players (a la us in the Benetiz era), who will come with average sized wages. And then there is spending large on expensive players with expensive wages, supplemented by hidden gems.

Exactly this, we buy lots of bargain basement players, hoping they will come good but with a few exceptions, they rarely do. Luckily Ndom, the one player we've spent proper money on, with the equivalent wages to match, has been outstanding. Would be rather embarrassing to spend £50m+ on a player, expecting great things, only for them to turn out st * cough * Kieta * cough *

Outstanding

Good one.

[Cie]

NRS said:

anonymous said:

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Same with Thiago - think it was Sye who called him world class? He was very positive about our players in general,

To be fair I think it might've been me. I would've loved Thiago at United so I spent my morning wood on the Liverpool thread saying what a good signing they have got.

Turns out it might've been wet dreams.

[GloverMart]

anonymous said:

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If success was guaranteed by the ability of playing well in a near silent, almost empty stadium, how come Arsenal aren't ten points clear at the top?

[Cie]

GloverMart said:

anonymous said:

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If success was guaranteed by the ability of playing well in a near silent, almost empty stadium, how come Arsenal aren't ten points clear at the top?

Because City would be 382 points clear of them

[anonymous-user]

GloverMart said:

If success was guaranteed by the ability of playing well in a near silent, almost empty stadium, how come Arsenal aren't ten points clear at the top?

[NRS]

Cie said:

GloverMart said:

anonymous said:

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If success was guaranteed by the ability of playing well in a near silent, almost empty stadium, how come Arsenal aren't ten points clear at the top?

Because City would be 382 points clear of them

[TEKNOPUG]

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

It's considerably less than the cost of failing to qualify for CL.

Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 13th April 09:26

[Cie]

TEKNOPUG said:

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

It's considering less than the cost of failing to qualify for CL.

Levy isn't gonna shag you mate

[TEKNOPUG]

Cie said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

It's considering less than the cost of failing to qualify for CL.

Levy isn't gonna shag you mate

I thought we'd already established that I am Levy?

[Cie]

TEKNOPUG said:

Cie said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

It's considering less than the cost of failing to qualify for CL.

Levy isn't gonna shag you mate

I thought we'd already established that I am Levy?

A creepy teenage fan with posters of Levy's shiny head on his wall at best

Pages of net spend, contract lengths and articles of heroically resisting transfers in the bedside drawer all stuck together with an unknown substance

[Challo]

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

Reports is he is on 15m a year, and contract runs out in 2023. I would think it would be around the 20-30m.

[unident]

TEKNOPUG said:

Wadeski said:

Isn't Mourinho's buyout absolutely exorbitant? Will be interesting to see if Levy can suck that one up...

It's considerably less than the cost of failing to qualify for CL.

Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 13th April 09:26

But it’ll be a double whammy. You will fail to qualify and then have to pay him off. Even if there are performance related clauses in there making his payout less than is being chucked around it’ll still be a considerable sum plus having to pay another manager on top once you’ve sacked him. You only got Pochettino off the books in late December.

[TEKNOPUG]

unident said:

But it’ll be a double whammy. You will fail to qualify and then have to pay him off. Even if there are performance related clauses in there making his payout less than is being chucked around it’ll still be a considerable sum plus having to pay another manager on top once you’ve sacked him. You only got Pochettino off the books in late December.

That depends whether you think a Jose managed team will qualify for CL next year. CL is worth 50m minimum. His failure this year has already cost 60m in wages and lost revenue. If he fails again next year, another 60m and the following year too. There is always a cost to sacking a manager but it's purely a financial decision as to whether the pros outway the cons. Otherwise no manager whould ever be fired. It's no different to signing players that don't work out. Clubs take losses on them all the time. No manager gets paid so much that they are unsackable.

To add, the real costs are what the salary of a replacement manager will be. Jose will get paid £30m whether he sees out his contract or he gets fired tomorrow. That cost is already locked in. So the additional cost is the salary of the new manager for the same period as JM contract. If you hire an unattached manager then the cost is probably 15-20m on top of JM salary for the next 3 years. Or £5-7m extra a year. Sacking JM suddenly doesn't look quite so expensive.

Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 13th April 11:35

[ddom]

NRS said:

I don't even know where this "underinvestment" or "no money" even comes from. Spurs are one of the highest spenders on players in recent seasons in the PL. The whole " we spend no money" is several seasons ago.

Thats just a total bks thing to say, the best teams are getting really ones that spend the most. There’s the odd exception but Spurs are not big spenders. We sold Walker, never rebuilt. Same with Eriksen. And as well you know spending a fortune wins you things, in your lots case a one year thing it has to be said

[jammy-git]

I'm curious as to which ex-player Spurs are going to bring in to replace Jose (whenever he goes). Gazza? Ledley? Waddle? Or does it have to be someone from the Ole/Gerrard/Lamps era - I don't know the rules about this stuff any more.