European Super League Is Almost Here - Breaking News

European Super League Is Almost Here - Breaking News

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Gadgetmac

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14,984 posts

109 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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This could literally be the death knell for the English Premier League and where do UEFA go without the cash cow of the Champions League - because FIFA will want a large portion of the revenue from a competition they set-up.

abzmike

8,427 posts

107 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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If there is no pyramid/promotion/relegation from domestic leagues it's essentailly a franchise for selected companies to buy their way in. If it sucks up all the TV money the EPL and other major leagues as they currently exist are dead. Maybe the selected teams will have shadow squads playing domestically, but it won't be the same, as the big money will be gone. If FIFA support it then players can still access World Cups, so won't care. Football needs a change, but this is all very dangerous.

hepy

1,272 posts

141 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Good, they can f##k off. Not sure why Spurs are in there? What have they won over the last few years.

Personally I enjoy football miles more since my team were relegated from the Premiership, less obsessing about staying in the top league, more just enjoying the games.

WonkeyDonkey

2,343 posts

104 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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They can all sod off.

Most these big teams have won relatively feck all recently anyway.

Liverpool? 1 league title in 30 years.

Man Utd? Leicester have won a title more recently.

Spurs? They'll probably pour their billionth pint at their fancy new ground before they win anything.

dmulally

6,205 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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I'd love it if that happened. Football needs a reset before it disappears up it's own arse.

The number of pundits that would have to bugger off and follow the super league would mean I wouldn't have to mute commentary anymore.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

139 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Zetec-S said:
To be honest I can't see it happening, I think it's more an attempt by the big clubs to force more concessions from the FA or UEFA, such as a bigger share of the prize money, etc.

It's all very well suggesting a Euro league comprising of the 18 biggest clubs, but how do you decide which 18 clubs are the biggest? Yes, you have the obvious ones like Man U, Liverpool, Real, Barca, Juve, Milan, Bayern, but when you get to 15, 16, 17... how do you pick between Spurs, Ajax, Porto, or Benfica?
Are Milan, PSG and Manu really that obvious ?

Ac Milan is a shadow of it's former (Berlusconi backed) self, it hasn't been playing CL for years. PSG has no history at all, it's all Arab money, same as City. Ferguson United only won 3 CL's. Spurs just like PSG and City are new to the scene. City has a hard time filling a decent stadium.

In football terms Ajax is far more obvious. Plus has a 56.000 stadium, with more than 30.000 on a waiting list to get a season ticket.

But what's obviously obvious is that FIFA with it's US backed investors (and the national interest of the clubs involved) are picking contenders among the largest country's, Pay TV is what country's, not the best clubs.

Edited by DeltonaS on Wednesday 21st October 00:03

chow pan toon

12,389 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Just the latest miserable attempt to freeze the current "big 6" in aspic, the only unusual thing is that it has followed so soon after the previous one was shot down.

Let them go and have their European League, I hope their supporters enjoy watching another game that nothing is riding on against a team that you don't have any feeling towards. I wonder how long it will be before the teams end up franchised, after all not much point being in Liverpool if most of your games are a flight away on the continent is there? May as well make it a slightly longer flight and build a nice new stadium in New York, or groundshare with an NFL team.

CharlieH89

9,080 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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WonkeyDonkey said:
They can all sod off.

Most these big teams have won relatively feck all recently anyway.

Liverpool? 1 league title in 30 years.
hehe
And yet still marked as one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Pointless myself writing anymore.

I’d prefer it if there weren’t a super league. Keep it the same format. Rather not see the biggest teams cement their future revenue simply because they are the biggest teams. Work for it and let the results earn you the revenue.
Unfair on smaller teams.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,442 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Zetec-S said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not, the other 14. Most fans of Burnley, Bournemouth, and the rest want to see Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc play their team, with the superstar footballers that come with them. And they want their own club to be able to attract good players too.

You may not, and that's your view, but as said, most do.
yes

My BiL was supposed to travel over from Australia earlier this year. As a lifelong Bournemouth supporter he was looking forward to watching them play Man U and Spurs in the PL. Obviously Covid put a stop to that (followed by their relegation), but it's still has ambition to watch them play the big boys.

I'm a Saints fan and if you lost the "big 6" I'll admit the PL would lose a big part of its appeal for me.
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".

monty999

1,136 posts

106 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".
You are quite right, but unfortunately that just shows how football is all about the cash, and the glory of winning (or getting as far as possible in the competition) is worth fk all nowadays. How sad that cash is more important than giving the loyal fans something to celebrate.


dmulally

6,205 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".
Colchester hopes for spurs tbh.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,442 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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monty999 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".
You are quite right, but unfortunately that just shows how football is all about the cash, and the glory of winning (or getting as far as possible in the competition) is worth fk all nowadays. How sad that cash is more important than giving the loyal fans something to celebrate.
I think most loyal fans of Blyth Spartans or wherever would rather crash out in R3 away at Man U or Chelsea, and have a brilliant day out watching superstar footballers, rather than beat Rochdale in R3 and go out to Peterborough in R4. I could be wrong though.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,442 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dmulally said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".
Colchester hopes for spurs tbh.
Why wouldn't you. Best of both worlds, get to play a big team at a great stadium, and also have round 4 to look forward to. hehe

Gadgetmac

Original Poster:

14,984 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
dmulally said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought that's pretty universal. When they do the FA Cup 3rd round draw, the non league and League 1&2 clubs all want Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc. I've never heard one of them say "we're really hoping for Burnley".
Colchester hopes for spurs tbh.
Why wouldn't you. Best of both worlds, get to play a big team at a great stadium, and also have round 4 to look forward to. hehe
laugh

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Champions league expansion:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/1224...

Is anyone actually interested in the group stages of the CL league, especially when their club have no involvement?

Personally I've little interest Basel vs Ferencvaros


aeropilot

34,697 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Fittster said:
Champions league expansion:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/1224...

Is anyone actually interested in the group stages of the CL league, especially when their club have no involvement?

Personally I've little interest Basel vs Ferencvaros
This BBC article doesn't paint a rosy picture of the future of domestic football with these implications....

Last bit about applying 'historical co-efficient' for qualification rather than where a team finished in the league is clearly a superleague for the selected big names......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56350964

Gadgetmac

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14,984 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Big news about this breaking now...

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2021/04/liverpool-fc...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/5-pre...

Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal signed up. Man City undecded.

Suspect Everton, Leicester and West Ham will be upset about this just for starters.

gaseous clay

12,389 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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"No alteration to domestic leagues". Hmm, cake and eat it I think. Probably best to let these clubs get their preparations started early by lifting the burden of Premier League and UEFA tournament commitments straight away. The fact Spurs are in it tells you all you need to know about how they're defining "big" (not by success on the field, that's for sure). I look forward to the first one of these teams to be franchised over to the US and wish them the best of luck.

V8covin

7,342 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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If the Premier League had any balls they'd say you can't play in the domestic league if you sign up.
But we all know that won't happen so they need to play hard ball regarding fixtures etc.No cancellation of domestic fixtures so you can play European League games,docking of points for fielding weakened teams,not fulfilling fixtures etc

abzmike

8,427 posts

107 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Maybe UEFA will prevent players playing in internationals if they play in the breakaway league? Then we’ll see the mercenaries.