The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 10)
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Ole isn't good enough, pointless spending 100m every summer on players when you've got him coaching them. I don't know the situation above Ole, like DoF or anything like that, so they might be useless as well.
The 5 subs thing last season massively helped you out because of the quality of the squad, whereas we had about 18 players to choose from, including one or two youngsters or outcasts, otherwise I reckon Ole would have gotten the boot.
I think you should go for Poch myself.
The 5 subs thing last season massively helped you out because of the quality of the squad, whereas we had about 18 players to choose from, including one or two youngsters or outcasts, otherwise I reckon Ole would have gotten the boot.
I think you should go for Poch myself.
likesachange said:
So who would everyone want in ? Does everyon who is anti Ole want Poch?
What other options?
I said this last year, you missed a trick by not getting Brendan Rodgers who is a proper coach who makes players better and has done well at every club he has been at playing good football.What other options?
Leicester Loyal said:
I think you should go for Poch myself.
Pointless until other problems are sorted. Seems to be more problems other than just a manager, it’s the same story over and over again with managers who have had success elsewhere. I have to admit though Ole isn’t the man for the job long term but it’s pointless going through managers until we’re left with Neil Warnock.
Anonymous-poster said:
I said this last year, you missed a trick by not getting Brendan Rodgers who is a proper coach who makes players better and has done well at every club he has been at playing good football.
Yeah he’d be up there for me too tbh. I quite like Conte for his enthusiasm!
Anonymous-poster said:
I said this last year, you missed a trick by not getting Brendan Rodgers who is a proper coach who makes players better and has done well at every club he has been at playing good football.
Up until recently he's only really ever used one system and if that fails we don't have anything else. If other teams sat back and just countered us we had no answer for it, and we played the same way no matter what, if it was against Man City or Norwich, which is something you can't do. He's started to mix it up this season though and has made comments about winning games even though he's not sticking to his footballing principals, which makes me think he's becoming a better manager. He's still the best we'd attract mind you, he'll probably end up at Chelsea or somewhere in 2022/2023 if he keeps it up.
Cie said:
Leicester Loyal said:
I think you should go for Poch myself.
Pointless until other problems are sorted. Seems to be more problems other than just a manager, it’s the same story over and over again with managers who have had success elsewhere. I have to admit though Ole isn’t the man for the job long term but it’s pointless going through managers until we’re left with Neil Warnock.
The one I’m used to would have responded with a Julian Clary type comment if the question involved making a move on Poch.
200Plus Club said:
Yet a week ago they ripped the German league leaders to bits and a week before beat PSG without worry. So I don't quite think it's like you say. The players are off yes and the manager is struggling to find his best setup including the newer players.
We do seem to have to rely on players such as Matic and Mata who are great but on the decline. That's not right. Pogba for me could be sold on tomorrow as I think he's one of the reasons we struggle try g to fit him in continually. Ole will need to work it out and show he has before the season ends or it will unfortunately be his last I fear.
Leipzig won't be near the top come the end of the season but that was a good result, PSG seem to have a big issue transitioning from massive French club with superstars to being true challengers to the CL. These results are once again red herrings that are being used to justify carrying on as you are - this will be irretrievably destructive. We do seem to have to rely on players such as Matic and Mata who are great but on the decline. That's not right. Pogba for me could be sold on tomorrow as I think he's one of the reasons we struggle try g to fit him in continually. Ole will need to work it out and show he has before the season ends or it will unfortunately be his last I fear.
All the time, the Glazers are wringing the means to get back to an appropriate position out of the club. They are your biggest problem .
Challo said:
likesachange said:
Surely that is Maguire fault. As skipper you are organising the defence and keeping your shapeHe needs the pressure of the captaincy off him, but he will still be expected to be that voice. I think Ole sees it as a personal failing and a public embarrassment if he moves the armband elsewhere, so he will just allow Maguire to keep on suffering.
selym said:
Challo said:
likesachange said:
Surely that is Maguire fault. As skipper you are organising the defence and keeping your shapeHe needs the pressure of the captaincy off him, but he will still be expected to be that voice. I think Ole sees it as a personal failing and a public embarrassment if he moves the armband elsewhere, so he will just allow Maguire to keep on suffering.
DVB played ok which is a plus but seems as timid as a shrew.
It does look as though we're in the death throes of Ole's tenure, the players seem to be doing their usual and the media can smell blood.
I hope the next person finally sorts out whatever the rancid element of the dressing room is, as there clearly is one.
I didn't manage to watch last night, why was no-one on the touchline screaming at someone to mark Ba?
Those who know the people better, are Carrick and McKenna worth keeping?
I hope the next person finally sorts out whatever the rancid element of the dressing room is, as there clearly is one.
I didn't manage to watch last night, why was no-one on the touchline screaming at someone to mark Ba?
Those who know the people better, are Carrick and McKenna worth keeping?
Edited by Mr. White on Thursday 5th November 08:11
Will people be willing to give Poch time though? As he will need it, took a season and a half to sort us out, and when your results have already been poor and the performances not that great, people will want to see an instant change and not another period of transition, which I fear Poch won’t give you!
It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
Yidwann said:
Will people be willing to give Poch time though? As he will need it, took a season and a half to sort us out, and when your results have already been poor and the performances not that great, people will want to see an instant change and not another period of transition, which I fear Poch won’t give you!
It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
It's almost predictable. Pogba will pull his finger out of his arse leading Poch to win his first 12 games, Woody will give Pogba a new five-year contract on £350k/wk, and in 2.5 years time Poch will be sacked.It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
likesachange said:
Sadly Maguire is probably our best leader ! Hurts to say it. But we don’t have a dominant, almost intimidating like leader!
DVB played ok which is a plus but seems as timid as a shrew.
I think Maguire needs the pressure off to lead the back line; how he would respond to losing the captaincy is another question. DVB played ok which is a plus but seems as timid as a shrew.
Bruno has the passion and the built in need to win; if he hangs round he might be a good candidate.
Yidwann said:
Will people be willing to give Poch time though? As he will need it, took a season and a half to sort us out, and when your results have already been poor and the performances not that great, people will want to see an instant change and not another period of transition, which I fear Poch won’t give you!
It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
A new manager might be all that's needed, I don't really know. We all know that a new manager can have an immediate effect. So not sure Poch would need much time due to his experience at the top level. I mean we clearly have the potential imho. Our first away defeat since Liverpool in January!!, as many clean sheets as Liverpool (with the best defence in the world ?!) in same period.. We are just absent on a too many occasions, that is whats difficult to understand.It’ll pain me to see him at United though, but we should get £100 million for Alli though I guess
I like Ole a lot, and he has some good qualities. But it’s impossible not to conclude that he (and his coaching staff) are incapable of picking a side and getting it to play. We have plenty of good and even excellent players, so it has to come down to the coaching. If Ole goes, so should most of the coaches.
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