The Official Euro 2020 thread....

The Official Euro 2020 thread....

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The Hypno-Toad

12,298 posts

206 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Who’s going to be the replacement?

Lingard?
Ward-Prowse?
Watkins?

I wouldn’t take Henderson either but you know Southgate will.

But we have got a little bit of hope, we do have some good players to add to the mix now from City & Chelsea.

Not counting Stirling of course.

GloverMart

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11,852 posts

216 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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He didn't give Lingard and Watkins very long tonight so I wonder whether that was because he knows they aren't going.

Depressing to hear Ashley Cole after the game saying he'd play Rashford and Sterling alongside Kane v Croatia. Neither of them should be anywhere near starting next Sunday.

48k

13,169 posts

149 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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My fear is Kane getting injured as we don't seem to have a working plan B. I think I'd rather we took Lingard over JWP on that basis.

On the upside I'm kind of glad we've had a couple of shockers going in to the tournament rather than breezing in to the first game on the back of two decent wins thinking we're world beaters.

unident

6,702 posts

52 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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aeropilot

34,718 posts

228 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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48k said:
My fear is Kane getting injured as we don't seem to have a working plan B. I think I'd rather we took Lingard over JWP on that basis.
Its why I would have picked Watkins to go over Calvert-Lewin.

As for Henderson's behavior, well.....he shouldn't ever wear the armband again, utter tt.


GloverMart

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11,852 posts

216 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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unident said:
What England isn’t and never really has been in living memory is a good team.
Excuse me chopping up your post, unident, but this bit is spot on. The moment we learn that the best 11 players don't always make the best team will be the day we start playing properly and have a chance to win stuff. Look at the days we had Gerrard & Lampard and successive managers shoe horned them in because they were the best 2 midfielders out there. And Scholes, wasn't he played out wide left or something at one point? Players that were world beaters at their clubs were suddenly playing like panel beaters because they were being played out of position.

RichB

51,683 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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aeropilot said:
As for Henderson's behavior, well.....he shouldn't ever wear the armband again, utter tt.
I missed the last 10 mins, turned over to watch the tennis. I saw him miss the penalty but did he get involved in something at the end?

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Well done Gareth.

Haven't even managed to get the whole squad together a week before the tournament and next week will likely be the first time they all play together.

Quite possibly the worst prep England has ever had to a tournament

MiniMan64

16,952 posts

191 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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What have the other ‘big’ teams and favourites done in their friendlies? Played their ‘standard’ starting 11 or dicked around like England?

Challo

10,214 posts

156 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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MiniMan64 said:
What have the other ‘big’ teams and favourites done in their friendlies? Played their ‘standard’ starting 11 or dicked around like England?
I think a lot of them played full strength sides in their friendlies.

I know the CL players for Chelsea and City didn’t play, but there weren’t even on the bench. Could have played them at the end for the 15mins.

Nope we would rather play players that won’t even be in the squad. According to the commentary, they reckon we will be playing 3 at the back in the first game. Good we played a flat back 4 then.

Ascayman

12,760 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
We pretty much agree on that.

Not to flog a dead horse but you don't get 196 points over a couple of seasons carrying st players.
In a team that bypasses its midfield. Henderson doesn't fit into any team that wants to play through midfield.

48k

13,169 posts

149 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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I just thought it was pretty selfish to snatch the ball off DCL and deny him a chance of a second goal. That's not leadership, that's putting yourself before the team. Judging by Southgate's comments afterwards he felt the same and words were had.

48k

13,169 posts

149 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Sounds like Ben White has got the nod. confused

TCEvo

12,773 posts

203 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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48k said:
Sounds like Ben White has got the nod. confused
Safety first rolleyes, not a surprise w/ GS now.

ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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48k said:
Sounds like Ben White has got the nod. confused
What a surprise.

Flat back 5 and 2 holding midfielders along with Rashford and Sterling starting.

Ambition.

Old Man Fred

821 posts

90 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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GloverMart said:
He didn't give Lingard and Watkins very long tonight so I wonder whether that was because he knows they aren't going.

Depressing to hear Ashley Cole after the game saying he'd play Rashford and Sterling alongside Kane v Croatia. Neither of them should be anywhere near starting next Sunday.
i think it was Lee Dixon commentating and he was singing Rashfords praises but he was awful, lost the ball 5 times in the opening 20 mins trying to go past 3 people and was no threat at all.

AS mentioned, Ben white has got the nod for the extra place, i think he should have replaced Mings with White and then taken JWP as he played really well, broke up play in a defensive capacity and looked composed on the ball not to mention his set pieces.

My enthusiasm for the tournament is getting lower and lower, i can see us losing to Scotland for sure

ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Old Man Fred said:
GloverMart said:
He didn't give Lingard and Watkins very long tonight so I wonder whether that was because he knows they aren't going.

Depressing to hear Ashley Cole after the game saying he'd play Rashford and Sterling alongside Kane v Croatia. Neither of them should be anywhere near starting next Sunday.
i think it was Lee Dixon commentating and he was singing Rashfords praises but he was awful, lost the ball 5 times in the opening 20 mins trying to go past 3 people and was no threat at all.

AS mentioned, Ben white has got the nod for the extra place, i think he should have replaced Mings with White and then taken JWP as he played really well, broke up play in a defensive capacity and looked composed on the ball not to mention his set pieces.

My enthusiasm for the tournament is getting lower and lower, i can see us losing to Scotland for sure
If we do lose to Scotland there'll be a massive silver lining as it will be the end of Southgate.

Apparently we can play all our games at Wembley.