The Official Euro 2020 thread....

The Official Euro 2020 thread....

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Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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GloverMart said:
Driver101 said:
Eric Mc said:
There are two specific incidences where a player who is physically standing in an offside position will be deemed NOT to be offside-

1. The ball came to the offside player having been played by a defender (as in the situation tonight).

2. The offside player receives the ball from a throw in.

Them’s the rules.
The defender has to deliberately play the ball.

He was panicked into playing the ball and the outcome wasn't what he intended.

Is that deliberate?
Yes, it is deliberate. The fact he wanted to play it from point A to point B but actually played it to Point C is completely irrelevant to the argument and to the Laws of the Game.
We had this with the Silva goal against Villa. Everyone argued that because Mings deliberately played the ball, and had a few seconds control, Rodri was entitled to challenge him.

The FA have confirmed that goal wouldn't count again.

Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 12th June 22:53

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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The gamble the defender had to take was either to leave the ball alone or play it. He gambled wrong,

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Driver101 said:
confused

But the player standing in the offside position wouldn't have gained an advantage.

Lukaku was offside and was the player that forced the defender to make a rash clearance. He benefitted when the defender didn't get the deliberate outcome he wanted.
Source? wink

What was it Brian Clough used to say? If he’s not interfering with play…

wazztie16

1,474 posts

132 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Just seen a replay of the goal concerning Lukaku in an offside position.

Deliberate play by the defender that he got wrong, Lukaku did absolutely nothing wrong.

Perfectly legal goal.

bitchstewie

51,506 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Reading a few of the articles on Eriksen and the team and medical response.

Christ that was a hell of a show of the response of the players and the medical teams yikes

Flip Martian

19,718 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Stadium medics, team doctor, players, ref...all kicked in like a well oiled machine. He's a lucky man.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,118 posts

213 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Very, very pleased to hear that he's OK. Does anyone know why he collapsed yet? Assuming either heart-related or a seizure. Either way, hope he is OK and he is able to play football again, but if he isn't, I hope he lives a long and healthy life.

BadBull

1,924 posts

73 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Would he be insurable to play again?

Just glad he's in recovery. Genuinely thought I'd just watched a man die.

Pommy

14,268 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Very, very pleased to hear that he's OK. Does anyone know why he collapsed yet? Assuming either heart-related or a seizure. Either way, hope he is OK and he is able to play football again, but if he isn't, I hope he lives a long and healthy life.
Not sure if it's connected I was watching the game and he went over to take a corner early on in the match and he was proper sweating and look knackered and it wasn't even a heavy start at the moment. Maybe not but enough for me to wonder why he looked so knackered so early.

Legend83

9,991 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Acquaintance of mine in the biz spoke to his agent last night - he is doing ok but as of last night the doctors still couldn't say what caused it.

Agree with above poster (although probably more hindsight) but every close up of him in the match he looked like he had a "film" on his face, not sweat from running but more the look of someone who has the sweats when they have flu or something.

Shocking scenes. I was genuinely shaking watching it, should have turned off but it's like a car crash. Thank Christ they got him back.

Bonefish Blues

26,886 posts

224 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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bhstewie said:
Reading a few of the articles on Eriksen and the team and medical response.

Christ that was a hell of a show of the response of the players and the medical teams yikes
Immediate response by trained teams on a supremely fit individual saved the day.

The Hypno-Toad

12,292 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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So glad it would appear that Eriksen is recovering, long may that continue.


Now then, onto rumours, lies and damn speculation.

Sky is reporting that Foden and Stirling will start either side of Kane, Grealish will be on the bench.

banghead

Randy Winkman

16,214 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Well done to all that helped him. clap

It looks as if he was actually in exactly the right place for that to happen with team-mates and professionals around him.

Perhaps the BBC (and others) were at fault for showing too much but I think they were awaiting the result that actually happened (ie. him retaining consciousness) but it took too long to occur and by that time I think all of the TV people were in a bit of a panic. Ironically we (and the presenters) didn't actually see that the outcome was not as bad as we'd thought. Good luck to him.

And well done to Micah Richards on the BBC for being sympathetic but positive about what the result might be.

mattyn1

5,796 posts

156 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I am in awe of the medics and also the players ....... we are all on no doubt that immediate response saved a mans life.

Just goes to show how quickly any of us can find ourselves in a similar position. Or how quickly we could depart...... one would assume CE is exceptionally fit and subject to rigorous medical checks.

I am questioning myself whether I would be useful in a similar situation. Not convinced i could react in the right way so quickly. I think I might book myself on a course or two.

Also questioning whether I have all my st in one sock should I fall as quickly. Time to sort everything I think.

My Mrs is in hospital at the moment. Having a lot of time to think things through.

juice

8,552 posts

283 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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mattyn1 said:
I am in awe of the medics and also the players ....... we are all on no doubt that immediate response saved a mans life.

Just goes to show how quickly any of us can find ourselves in a similar position. Or how quickly we could depart...... one would assume CE is exceptionally fit and subject to rigorous medical checks.

I am questioning myself whether I would be useful in a similar situation. Not convinced i could react in the right way so quickly. I think I might book myself on a course or two.

Also questioning whether I have all my st in one sock should I fall as quickly. Time to sort everything I think.

My Mrs is in hospital at the moment. Having a lot of time to think things through.
Hope she's doing OK beer

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Now then, onto rumours, lies and damn speculation.

Sky is reporting that Foden and Stirling will start either side of Kane, Grealish will be on the bench.

banghead
And RBs at LB despite them having Shaw in the squad…

mattyn1

5,796 posts

156 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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juice said:
Hope she's doing OK beer
Thanks.... but no she isn’t ..... probably life changing for her but not life threatening but still pretty bad. Just say I am glad I am not female!

48k

13,159 posts

149 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Err...wtf? confusedlaugh


Brave Fart

5,756 posts

112 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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The sun is shining here in Hampshire, it's a glorious Euro football finals morning and I've just woofed a couple of bacon rolls. Forget the pandemic (if possible), fire up the BBQ, get some beers in the fridge, and get ready to enjoy watching England crush Croatia. Life feels good today folks!

Actually, being sensible for a moment I predict a cagey low scoring draw. Anyway, too early for a beer?

Flip Martian

19,718 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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48k said:
Err...wtf? confusedlaugh

Oh dear... rofl