The Official Euro 2020 thread....

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MiniMan64 said:

GloverMart said:

If Eriksen hadn't had his incident, they may have had a shout. Might still have to be honest.

One might argue that without the Eriksen incident, the team might not have been motivated in quite the same way.

Yep, that's a fair shout too.

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julian987R said:

There was still 10 seconds left and they were approaching a final strike. They have been cheated

Just rewound the match and the ref blows up on 96.02. Six minutes of stoppage time announced, ball is up in the air and nowhere near the Danish penalty area.

More rubbish from the forum bin man!

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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

julian987R said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

julian987R said:

GloverMart said:

julian987R said:

There was still 10 seconds left and they were approaching a final strike. They have been cheated

Just rewound the match and the ref blows up on 96.02. Six minutes of stoppage time announced, ball is up in the air and nowhere near the Danish penalty area.

More rubbish from the forum bin man!

Perhaps it was the stream. You don't have to get all personal

How could it be the stream, unless it was a different match? In another universe or dimension maybe your situation occurred, but not in this one.

That the audio and picture were out of sync, thats how it could happen.

Considering when the whistle blew the ball was nowhere near the Demark's goal the sound would have been quite a bit out, in which case you'd have realised (or should have) from the sound when the ball gets kicked not being in sync. Maybe 1-2 seconds I would perhaps agree with you, but not the situation you're describing.

He's talking complete hatstand, mate, and digging himself into a hole. Very strange.

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The Hypno-Toad said:

It was interesting there was no injury time at the end of last nights match. It was almost like the Ukrainian captain had said the to the ref,

“Just blow the whistle dude. We’re knackered, we’re not going to score four and we just want to go home”

I did feel sorry for the three Ukranian subs that were ready to come on for a very brief taster of the tournament.

Commentaor called it that they might not get on and that's how it played out.

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RichB said:

Newarch said:

... the criticism of Italy by Lineker and Shearer for simulation.

Poor journalism. There's nothing xenophobic about highlighting blatant cheating.

There was a poster on this very thread the other day accusing people that kicked off about the Italian cheating as "xenophobic Pistonheaders".

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To be fair, the early exit from the Euros means that Scotland manager Steve Clarke can get on with their preparations for the 2022 World Cup.

He's buying all the squad a 48" plasma to watch it on.

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mikeswagon said:

GloverMart said:

To be fair, the early exit from the Euros means that Scotland manager Steve Clarke can get on with their preparations for the 2022 World Cup.

He's buying all the squad a 48" plasma to watch it on.

Aye, that's a good one. I'm not sure they'd be able to produce enough factor 50 to allow us to play in Qatar anyway The talk of us having to buy all these shirts is funny too, I'm in rural Aberdeenshire, I'd have had to order them weeks ago to stand a real chance of having them in time for a game, long before I knew which teams got through .

A question for the England fans, those with a really good imagination. Imagine a strange parallel universe, where Scotland were still in the Euros, and England had packed up and gone home (they didn't have far to go, but that's another story). Scotland play Denmark tomorrow night, at Hampden. Who are you supporting?

I watched the Germany game at a neighbours bbq, they're both English, a lovely couple, JCW Coupe and Bay window camper among their fleet. But I still couldn't bring myself to support England, equally didn't shout for zee Germans. It was a strange experience, and one I don't care to repeat.

I'm taking my daughter to her football training tomorrow night, so might give radio commentary a go.

I'd support Scotland, 100%.

I have a very Scottish surname, my gran was born there, I feel such a pull to Scotland, I love the national anthem, can't really explain it but just "feel Scottish" even though I'm English to everyone that knows me. I've only ever been there half a dozen times but just feels like home. My mickey-taking is not to be taken any more seriously than a amusing joke, I would never cheer anyone playing against Scotland. I was pretty mute watching the England v Scotland match, my kids have never seen me so quiet...

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Jasey_ said:

I predicted 5 0 for the Ukraine game and the wife said I was over confident.

She was right it turns out.

6 1 England tonight

Given my (lack of) ability in successfully predicting scorelines, I shall not be taking part in this discussion....
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2-1 England!

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For all the thousands and thousands of football games I've watched in my 53 years, it is mad that we have only ever been HERE (semi of a major tournament) three times before in my lifetime.

World Cup 90
Euro 96
World Cup 18

Shudder.

Come on England, let's do it!!

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I must admit, if you trace my posts from the start of the tournament, I was one of those giving stick to Southgate for his squad selections (not taking JWP, taking the partially fit Maguire & Henderson) and I've also criticised him for sticking with Sterling too when quite frankly, his performances this season have barely deserved it.

That said, I can hardly get out the armchair this morning as I've had to eat so much humble pie. He's been pretty well spot on with (a) his team selection (b) his tactics and (c) his in-game changes. I was disappointed that he took Grealish off last night but can still understand why he did it. Sterling? He's had a great tournament for sure and even I'd start him for England each game until injury or a loss of form comes along.

I'm doubly pleased though in that Southgate seems to be a decent bloke too. Every interview I've seen with him, written or visual, he comes across as a bloke you could have a mature discussion with, a chap you could get on with. Right behind him for Sunday now, just would love us to take that final step and cross the line by winning the tournament. I was -2 when we last won a tournament, my oldest lad was 4 in Euro 96, my other three children weren't even born. That's a long time to wait for where we are now.

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johnboy1975 said:

vetrof said:

Thought England deserved the win. Played most of the attacking football.
Free kick for Danish goal was very soft as was the penalty, both probably technically correct.

Reason England were able to control the last 15 minutes so easily was because Denmark only has 10 men on the pitch, didn't they?

This wasn't picked up on at the time by the commentary (or I never heard it) but was mentioned after the final whistle.

They used their 5 normal time subs in the 90 minutes, did they use their extra time sub too (presumably?)

Is this a permanent rule change, or special for this tournament only (covid related? Although I cant see the link)

Regarding the commentary, Sam Matterface mentioned it once, saying something like "The Danes are a member of staff short on the pitch now" then briefly mumbled something after but it was clear he (a) had no clue till it was pointed out to him and (b) didn't know who it was that was missing.

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Puggit said:

Fonzey said:

I hope that ITV get such a low proportion of the final viewership that they feel ashamed, and simply stop bidding for any event of significance in the future. Actually if they could just go under and free up their channel number for another version of QVC that would be appreciated

For the last World Cup final: Average of 15.1 million viewers choose to watch BBC's advertising-free coverage, compared with 3.3 million for ITV

I can only hope that similarly skewed figures are released after Sunday's final with a footnote saying that the adverts are nothing to do with the wildly differing figures, more down to the lack of quality of ITV's comms.

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Driver101 said:

GloverMart said:

Puggit said:

Fonzey said:

I hope that ITV get such a low proportion of the final viewership that they feel ashamed, and simply stop bidding for any event of significance in the future. Actually if they could just go under and free up their channel number for another version of QVC that would be appreciated

For the last World Cup final: Average of 15.1 million viewers choose to watch BBC's advertising-free coverage, compared with 3.3 million for ITV

I can only hope that similarly skewed figures are released after Sunday's final with a footnote saying that the adverts are nothing to do with the wildly differing figures, more down to the lack of quality of ITV's comms.

I don't remember ITV getting so many complaints for previous tournaments. It's not just because of the adverts that the BBC will have the most viewers.

Yep, that's my point. ITV comms are dreadful. Most people can stick having ad breaks now and again, still allows them to make a cuppa, have a wee etc etc. But ITV demoted Clive Tyldesley to bring in Sam Matterface, a move that is like bringing me into the England side for Harry Kane and together with Lee Dixon, they're not a patch on a Beeb that don't have Motson or Davies anymore.

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Brave Fart said:

48k said:

He was truly, truly awful last night though. Starting his introduction with a load of twaddle about make sure your seats are upright and your tables are stowed. I mean WTAF ?????

I'm going to go against the grain here. I really rate Sam Matterface and much prefer him to Martin Tyler or Clive Tyldesley. I'm a bit biased, because Sam used to do all of the radio commentaries for my team (Portsmouth) on the local radio station. I find Tyler mumbles on about random stuff, and I just don't like Tyldesley's voice I'm afraid. All wholly subjective, but there it is.
That said, I'll be watching BBC on Sunday because I can't stand the adverts.

I'd agree with you about Tyler, he's past his sell-by date IMO.

Disagree about Tyldesley though, he's a street ahead of Sam Mat. Radio commentaries may suit him better possibly.

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Antony Moxey said:

How do you make a library out of a phone box?

I've got one about half a mile from where I live. Ingenious things, they are.

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Escy said:

Challo said:

Im sure Saka did something similar to Immobile, claiming injury in the box and then suddenly got up when he realised we where still attacking. Kane dives just as much as the Italians. All footballers do it

Kane did exactly the same thing for his penalty shout, rolling around like he'd been done. Nothing wrong with him.

zygalski said:

If Wales get a subsidy from us for a couple more decent stadiums, perhaps you’ll host one day.

You only need one decent stadium to host games and for my money the Millennium Stadium is better than Wembley. Modern stadiums are all pretty much the same, it wins out on location, slap bang in the middle of Cardiff. The atmosphere is amazing, all the pubs are buzzing, it's great.

Went to the Cardiff vs Portsmouth FA Cup final at Wembley, train in, get off the train and basically on a trading estate with nothing around (at the time, maybe its better now?).

As far as watching games go, I'd prefer the Millennium Stadium to Wembley. Smaller capacity, yes, but when you're up in the Gods at Wembley, everything seems like dots whereas at the Mill Stad, seemed much closer to the action (watched GB v Uruguay at the 2012 Olympics there).

As regards the surround at Wembley, it's changed greatly there with thousands of student flats, businesses, coffee shops etc. I'm going up there on Monday to pick my lad up from his student flat which overlooks the stadium, he studies at the stadium. It's certainly streets ahead of where it was even ten years ago.

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julian987R said:

Cobnapint said:

That's a red

only if Digger agrees

That's three or four times now. Shut the up.

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markcoznottz said:

g4ry13 said:

Should have kept Sterling and Henderson on to take the penalties.

Yep

Sterling was still on at the end, I'm sure.

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Cliffe60 said:

F20CN16 said:

Here you go kids. You too can win trophies playing like this.

That would even have been a red card in rugby ffs!
Dangerous and cynical. Red card all the way.

Cynical is not a red card offence.

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MrBogSmith said:

Clearly wasn't a straight red. It was a professional foul that was a yellow.

Trippier marking Spinazzola for their goal was a total mismatch.

Not sure how you can give Rashford and Sancho 10 seconds on the pitch and expect them to be ready to take penalties to their best ability.

Wonder why Southgate hates Grealish so much.

Three of your four statements, I 100% agree with.

Spinazzola was injured though, mind you if Tripper was marking him, we would have had a problem.