The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 14]

The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 14]

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ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Blib said:
Personally, I don't want Eriksen back. He telephoned in far too many performances in the months before he left and disappeared in games that mattered.

I've no time for him whatsoever.
Agreed.

The way he left just annoyed me. Wonderful player for us at times but no.

mickk

28,897 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Son takes a better corner

Blib

44,174 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
Mrs B takes a better corner.

Ntv

5,177 posts

124 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?

mickk

28,897 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Blib said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
Mrs B takes a better corner.
She's very one footed though. Shame

dmulally

6,198 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I'd have Erik Thorsvedt over Winks tbh.

Blib

44,174 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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mickk said:
Blib said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
Mrs B takes a better corner.
She's very one footed though. Shame
She often refers to herself as the 'Devonshire Gareth Bale'. Which is becoming tiresome as she doesn't play golf.

Byker28i

60,056 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
We do need to work on our set plays and dead balls, rather than aimlessly punt the ball in. Something for this summer, maybe a role for Bentancur or Kulevski?
Royal needs crossing practice and lots of it, as does Sessegnon.
Harry needs to find his shooting boots, some of his attempts in the last few months have been very poor.

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Yidwann said:
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/dejan-k...

Interesting Article summing up Diaz vs Kulu, I know we were all pretty gutted when we seemed to have lined up Diaz for it not to come off, but the stats show we need not have been disappointed, Kulu has the better stats since joining in January, be interesting to see how he goes for a full season now he's adjusted but we've unearthed a gem there.
Helps that he's playing with the best 2 forwards in the league.

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Byker28i said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
We do need to work on our set plays and dead balls, rather than aimlessly punt the ball in. Something for this summer, maybe a role for Bentancur or Kulevski?
Royal needs crossing practice and lots of it, as does Sessegnon.
Harry needs to find his shooting boots, some of his attempts in the last few months have been very poor.
Royal needs selling, Sess needs to go out on loan.

As for a Danish bloke called Christian, who plays in midfield for Brentford, I think that Christian Nørgaard would be a better signing that Christian Eriksen. League high 109 tackles. Compared to that other Danish bloke in midfield PEH who managed 78 tackles.

GloverMart

11,831 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.

Ntv

5,177 posts

124 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
Does he like playstation?

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
I'd buy him. The question is though, is he good enough to start if you exclude free kicks? Could he replace Bentancur? Would he be happy at 27, sitting on the bench a lot? I guess if you want to play for a good team, you should expect to have competition for your place. If you want a guaranteed start then you probably aren't in a very good squad. I think he only signed a new 5 year contract this season, so won't be cheap to buy (although he's not going to be on big money - less than Winks!).

Ntv

5,177 posts

124 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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TEKNOPUG said:
GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
I'd buy him. The question is though, is he good enough to start if you exclude free kicks? Could he replace Bentancur? Would he be happy at 27, sitting on the bench a lot? I guess if you want to play for a good team, you should expect to have competition for your place. If you want a guaranteed start then you probably aren't in a very good squad. I think he only signed a new 5 year contract this season, so won't be cheap to buy (although he's not going to be on big money - less than Winks!).
Is this JWP? TBH I'd take Maddison over him. Think he's a better player other than from deadballs (and he's still miles better than anyone we have on that front).

GloverMart

11,831 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ntv said:
TEKNOPUG said:
GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
I'd buy him. The question is though, is he good enough to start if you exclude free kicks? Could he replace Bentancur? Would he be happy at 27, sitting on the bench a lot? I guess if you want to play for a good team, you should expect to have competition for your place. If you want a guaranteed start then you probably aren't in a very good squad. I think he only signed a new 5 year contract this season, so won't be cheap to buy (although he's not going to be on big money - less than Winks!).
Is this JWP? TBH I'd take Maddison over him. Think he's a better player other than from deadballs (and he's still miles better than anyone we have on that front).
Hadn't realised he'd signed a big contract tbf but yes, it's JWP. Big fan of his for a few seasons now, does his job very quietly without fuss etc.

I'd agree about Maddison too. Still prone to do the odd silly thing now and again but as he matures, he will get even better.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
TEKNOPUG said:
GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
I'd buy him. The question is though, is he good enough to start if you exclude free kicks? Could he replace Bentancur? Would he be happy at 27, sitting on the bench a lot? I guess if you want to play for a good team, you should expect to have competition for your place. If you want a guaranteed start then you probably aren't in a very good squad. I think he only signed a new 5 year contract this season, so won't be cheap to buy (although he's not going to be on big money - less than Winks!).
Is this JWP? TBH I'd take Maddison over him. Think he's a better player other than from deadballs (and he's still miles better than anyone we have on that front).
Hadn't realised he'd signed a big contract tbf but yes, it's JWP. Big fan of his for a few seasons now, does his job very quietly without fuss etc.

I'd agree about Maddison too. Still prone to do the odd silly thing now and again but as he matures, he will get even better.
Never say Never in football, but I have it on good authority that JWP won't leave Southampton, he's a proper Southampton lad and loves the club.

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Yidwann said:
GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
TEKNOPUG said:
GloverMart said:
Ntv said:
mickk said:
Son takes a better corner
I agree actually. Certainly not obviously worse.

But we do need a deadball free kick specialist. Has to be a player who otherwise adds a lot though. I'd rather see Dybala or Martinez than Eriksen tbh. Or even Maddison. Just think there's a risk of Eriksen coasting a bit and perhaps his game being less suited to Conte's system?
Could I possibly interest you in a midfielder with 362 top flight appearances, 44 goals (including 10 this season) and whose club struggled towards the end of the season meaning he might be up for a move?

He's 27 and lethal from a free kick too.
I'd buy him. The question is though, is he good enough to start if you exclude free kicks? Could he replace Bentancur? Would he be happy at 27, sitting on the bench a lot? I guess if you want to play for a good team, you should expect to have competition for your place. If you want a guaranteed start then you probably aren't in a very good squad. I think he only signed a new 5 year contract this season, so won't be cheap to buy (although he's not going to be on big money - less than Winks!).
Is this JWP? TBH I'd take Maddison over him. Think he's a better player other than from deadballs (and he's still miles better than anyone we have on that front).
Hadn't realised he'd signed a big contract tbf but yes, it's JWP. Big fan of his for a few seasons now, does his job very quietly without fuss etc.

I'd agree about Maddison too. Still prone to do the odd silly thing now and again but as he matures, he will get even better.
Never say Never in football, but I have it on good authority that JWP won't leave Southampton, he's a proper Southampton lad and loves the club.
I think the fact he signed a 5 year contract demonstrates that. Although "only" on £45k a week. If Saints accepted an offer from a demonstrably better club, who doubles his salary, he's going to leave.

48k

13,106 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I still think we need 5-6 players this summer -
1. Goalkeeper to replace Gollini, play in the cups and push Hugo in the final 2 years of his contract
2. First-choice upgrade to Emerson / Doherty
3. First-choice upgrade to Sessegnon / Reggie
4. First-choice upgrade to Davies
5. Upgrade to Hojbjerg - someone with some creativity or at least ability to take a free kick
6. A striker upgrade to Lucas / Bergy

We're going to have 23 games in the 14 weeks from the start of the season to the World Cup break, and the new EPL rules allow 5 subs, so we really need better squad depth.

We've got to sort out 11 players ending or already ended their loan periods (CCV, Parrott, Etete, John, Kurylowicz, Sarr, 'Belly, Lo So-so, Gil, Clarke and Whiteman) - the kids will no doubt go back out on another loan, Gil I'd like to keep, So-so and Belly we just need to offload to someone and cut our losses.

Sales of the clear-out players isn't going to generate a massive pot of cash although every little helps, but Levy definitely needs to put his hand in his pocket as the squad would need strengthening even if we didn't have CL football to contend with as well.

cinque

833 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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48k said:
I still think we need 5-6 players this summer -
1. Goalkeeper to replace Gollini, play in the cups and push Hugo in the final 2 years of his contract
2. First-choice upgrade to Emerson / Doherty
3. First-choice upgrade to Sessegnon / Reggie
4. First-choice upgrade to Davies
5. Upgrade to Hojbjerg - someone with some creativity or at least ability to take a free kick
6. A striker upgrade to Lucas / Bergy

We're going to have 23 games in the 14 weeks from the start of the season to the World Cup break, and the new EPL rules allow 5 subs, so we really need better squad depth.

We've got to sort out 11 players ending or already ended their loan periods (CCV, Parrott, Etete, John, Kurylowicz, Sarr, 'Belly, Lo So-so, Gil, Clarke and Whiteman) - the kids will no doubt go back out on another loan, Gil I'd like to keep, So-so and Belly we just need to offload to someone and cut our losses.

Sales of the clear-out players isn't going to generate a massive pot of cash although every little helps, but Levy definitely needs to put his hand in his pocket as the squad would need strengthening even if we didn't have CL football to contend with as well.
I think the route cause of our lack of creativity, is the lack of supply from wide. The system Conte wants relies on quality wing-backs delivering and driving forward. If you execute point 2. and 3. then the need for 5. is probably not that important. When we go forward, PEM can either sit in a back 3, allowing whichever wing back to attack with whichever left or right centre back to follow.

Point 1. looks close to executing with Forster coming in from Soton. If he's no good, he should at least get the sausage roll sales up.

I was one of Davies biggest critics, still am. His whole repartee is jog foward, receive ball, turn, play back to Dier. For £4.5mio a year, we should be getting better, BUT, Conte is getting a tune out of him and he's useful in a Champions league season as a utility defender. Not forgetting we still have Sanchez, Rodon and Tanganga, i'd be happy seeing x2 of those last x3 leave and use any funds for an upgrade.











48k

13,106 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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cinque said:
I was one of Davies biggest critics, still am. His whole repartee is jog foward, receive ball, turn, play back to Dier. For 4.5mio a year, we should be getting better, BUT, Conte is getting a tune out of him and he's useful in a Champions league season as a utility defender. Not forgetting we still have Sanchez, Rodon and Tanganga, i'd be happy seeing x2 of those last x3 leave and use any funds for an upgrade.
Quite. We shouldn't have first-choice players that the manager is having to "get a tune out of". Watching a back three of Romero Dier and Davies is like looking at a Rolls Royce next to two Ford Escorts. Davies is a safe pair of hands and will be a useful squad player but needs an upgrade with a decent first-11 replacement.