The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 14]

[Joeywinkle]

CourtAgain said:

CS was following orders from Conte, I hope the 2 km runs before each match, rigid 3-4-3 formation will be binned during his short tenure. Seeing Richarlison, Spence and Udogie next season, Danjuma play more would be great. The fact most of the training staff and only Conte and his brother left speaks volumes.

Apparently Nagelsmann is only interested in the job if Spurs make the CL places...

Edited by CourtAgain on Monday 27th March 23:25

Unfortunately i can't see us triggering Danjuma's buy option given he's played a grand total of 47 minutes of football for us this season (honestly, what was the point?!)

Udogie looks such a player though, i'm really excited to see how he'll fare in the PL. He's been fantastic for Udinese.

[martinbiz]

CourtAgain said:

Apparently Nagelsmann is only interested in the job if Spurs make the CL places...

Edited by CourtAgain on Monday 27th March 23:25

That maybe says a lot about him and already feeling entitled even as a young manager, maybe we could dodge another bullet and avoid

[Byker28i]

juice said:

CrgT16 said:

Maybe Tottenham’s problems is not due to the manager… it’s probable built in in the dressing room or higher up…. Just saying…

No - we built the stadium on an ancient burial ground.

Bill Nicholson?

[Guvernator]

martinbiz said:

CourtAgain said:

Apparently Nagelsmann is only interested in the job if Spurs make the CL places...

Edited by CourtAgain on Monday 27th March 23:25

That maybe says a lot about him and already feeling entitled even as a young manager, maybe we could dodge another bullet and avoid

Lots of fans seems excited by him and while I agree he's a young exciting manager, whose football style appears to be more in tune with our "DNA", I am rather concerned by his sudden sacking from Bayern. Rumours coming out are that he lost the dressing room and has fallen out with the board which sounds depressingly familiar.

We need to get this next manager right so if I were the Spurs board, I'd be looking very carefully at the circumstances of his firing.

[48k]

Yep we're having the same conversation again as a few days ago - Nagelsman parted company with Bayern for pretty much the same reasons as Conte parted with Spurs.

The underlying problems aren't going to change, so whilst it doesn't really matter who the manager is, we may as well try and get one who plays a brand of football that is entertaining to watch.

[President Merkin]

Cool, the return of Ossie. I'd take 6-4 every week.

[Guvernator]

48k said:

Yep we're having the same conversation again as a few days ago - Nagelsman parted company with Bayern for pretty much the same reasons as Conte parted with Spurs.

The underlying problems aren't going to change, so whilst it doesn't really matter who the manager is, we may as well try and get one who plays a brand of football that is entertaining to watch.

Conte's football was awful, we were knocked out of the FA Cup and CL with a whimper and it's highly unlikely we will get top 4 at this rate. Conte was also very vocal, several times in his criticisms about the club.

In contrast, Bayern are still in the quarter finals of the CL, second in the Bundesliga by 1 point and playing some great football so on the surface, the reasons for his falling out with the players or board aren't similar at all so I'd want to know why he was actually fired because it certainly can't be performance related.

[Blib]

President Merkin said:

Cool, the return of Ossie. I'd take 6-4 every week.

Sadly, it was often 4-6.

[48k]

Guvernator said:

48k said:

Yep we're having the same conversation again as a few days ago - Nagelsman parted company with Bayern for pretty much the same reasons as Conte parted with Spurs.

The underlying problems aren't going to change, so whilst it doesn't really matter who the manager is, we may as well try and get one who plays a brand of football that is entertaining to watch.

Conte's football was awful, we were knocked out of the FA Cup and CL with a whimper and it's highly unlikely we will get top 4 at this rate. Conte was also very vocal, several times in his criticisms about the club.

In contrast, Bayern are still in the quarter finals of the CL, second in the Bundesliga by 1 point and playing some great football so on the surface, the reasons for his falling out with the players or board aren't similar at all so I'd want to know why he was actually fired because it certainly can't be performance related.

He fell out with the Sporting Director, fell out with the team captain, their goalscoring has tailed off, xG has dopped off, and the management was getting twitchy that someone else would get Touchel if they didn't move now.

[Fast Bug]

48k said:

Guvernator said:

48k said:

Yep we're having the same conversation again as a few days ago - Nagelsman parted company with Bayern for pretty much the same reasons as Conte parted with Spurs.

The underlying problems aren't going to change, so whilst it doesn't really matter who the manager is, we may as well try and get one who plays a brand of football that is entertaining to watch.

Conte's football was awful, we were knocked out of the FA Cup and CL with a whimper and it's highly unlikely we will get top 4 at this rate. Conte was also very vocal, several times in his criticisms about the club.

In contrast, Bayern are still in the quarter finals of the CL, second in the Bundesliga by 1 point and playing some great football so on the surface, the reasons for his falling out with the players or board aren't similar at all so I'd want to know why he was actually fired because it certainly can't be performance related.

He fell out with the Sporting Director, fell out with the team captain, their goalscoring has tailed off, xG has dopped off, and the management was getting twitchy that someone else would get Touchel if they didn't move now.

And went on a skiing holiday whilst everything was going to st around him.

[Guvernator]

Going to st?

Bloody hell, shows you the different level top clubs operate at. We'd have their arm off to be in the same position.

[TEKNOPUG]

Complaining of a mole in the club leaking to the Press, whilst dating a journalist from Bild.....

[48k]

Guvernator said:

Going to st?

Bloody hell, shows you the different level top clubs operate at. We'd have their arm off to be in the same position.

Well, the Bundesliga has historically been a bit of a one-horse race, but this season there have been 3 teams in it. So, couple Bayern having a bit of genuine competition for once, with him going on a skiing holiday a week before an important game, the team conceeding silly goals from winning positions, their scoring dropping off, the strong personalities in the management, and Touchel behing available, squeeky bum time took over and they pulled the trigger.

A move to Spurs would be a step down for him, and also he might not want to come if we don't get CL football, but if he does come I expect to see a repeat of the personality clashes and he'll probably last until 2025 before losing the dressing room / pissing off Levy with his comments.

Edited by 48k on Tuesday 28th March 12:00

[Terry Winks]

So, just bring back Poch yeah?

[272BHP]

If Stellini gets us top 4 once let off the leash why not just keep him.

That would be no mean achievement at this point.

[Joeywinkle]

272BHP said:

If Stellini gets us top 4 once let off the leash why not just keep him.

That would be no mean achievement at this point.

More than likely he'll follow Conte wherever he ends up for his next gig. He's been his assistant at 3 of the clubs he's managed now. Pretty sure the only reason we've chosen him to stay on until the end of the season is because Conte would otherwise have some sort of dismissal case against us like he did at Chelsea (i think?) and we'd be on the hook for a load of money.

[Guvernator]

272BHP said:

If Stellini gets us top 4 once let off the leash why not just keep him.

That would be no mean achievement at this point.

Let off the leash? He is Conte's understudy. Are people really expecting him to deliver massively different tactics and play style?

[TEKNOPUG]

48k said:

Guvernator said:

Going to st?

Bloody hell, shows you the different level top clubs operate at. We'd have their arm off to be in the same position.

Well, the Bundesliga has historically been a bit of a one-horse race, but this season there have been 3 teams in it. So, couple Bayern having a bit of genuine competition for once, with him going on a skiing holiday a week before an important game, the team conceeding silly goals from winning positions, their scoring dropping off, the strong personalities in the management, and Touchel behing available, squeeky bum time took over and they pulled the trigger.

Edited by 48k on Tuesday 28th March 12:00

TBF they also sold Lewandoski and left him with Chopa Moting.....

[Guvernator]

TEKNOPUG said:

TBF they also sold Lewandoski and left him with Chopa Moting.....

Well he'll be used to it when we sell Kane and leave him with Richarlison.

[48k]

TEKNOPUG said:

48k said:

Guvernator said:

Going to st?

Bloody hell, shows you the different level top clubs operate at. We'd have their arm off to be in the same position.

Well, the Bundesliga has historically been a bit of a one-horse race, but this season there have been 3 teams in it. So, couple Bayern having a bit of genuine competition for once, with him going on a skiing holiday a week before an important game, the team conceeding silly goals from winning positions, their scoring dropping off, the strong personalities in the management, and Touchel behing available, squeeky bum time took over and they pulled the trigger.

Edited by 48k on Tuesday 28th March 12:00

TBF they also sold Lewandoski and left him with Chopa Moting.....

Well TBF they signed Mane to replace Lewandoski but he hasn't scored for ages.