The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 11)

The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 11)

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GTO-3R

7,497 posts

214 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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This this pretty much sums it all up and what the wkers have done to our club mad


Olivera

7,177 posts

240 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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GTO-3R said:
This this pretty much sums it all up and what the wkers have done to our club mad

Plus the stadium and other infrastructure is now creaky and well past its sell by date in comparison to other top clubs. The Glazer's mooted demands for bids of £5bn+ is fantasy land stuff - they're cynically attempting to offload it for a vastly inflated fee during a Ten Haag 'bounce'.

Short Grain

2,788 posts

221 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Olivera said:
GTO-3R said:
This this pretty much sums it all up and what the wkers have done to our club mad

Plus the stadium and other infrastructure is now creaky and well past its sell by date in comparison to other top clubs. The Glazer's mooted demands for bids of £5bn+ is fantasy land stuff - they're cynically attempting to offload it for a vastly inflated fee during a Ten Haag 'bounce'.
Kieran Maguire did a piece in the Daily Mail basically saying the same. Reckoned Utd. were valued at £2b last year and gave a value in the present state of £2.8b. The Glazers are taking the piss! The bids should be withdrawn and leave 'em hanging for a while, the Glazers I mean. Maybe they'll come back with a more realistic price. Doubt it somehow! Obviously they use the Trump business handbook wink






Gone a bit AMG

6,733 posts

198 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Given that the Washington Commanders bidding has gone to £6bn to suggest United is worth less than half that is nonsense given our global fan base and the popularity of premier league around the world.

Building above the railway line would raise capacity at OT to almost 90,000 making it the largest capacity stadium in football. That’s going to cost a lot less than a new stadium. I can see the greedy fkers taking investment, doing that and holding out for more in a few years.

fking leeches.

GTO-3R

7,497 posts

214 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Gone a bit AMG said:
Given that the Washington Commanders bidding has gone to £6bn to suggest United is worth less than half that is nonsense given our global fan base and the popularity of premier league around the world.

Building above the railway line would raise capacity at OT to almost 90,000 making it the largest capacity stadium in football. That’s going to cost a lot less than a new stadium. I can see the greedy fkers taking investment, doing that and holding out for more in a few years.

fking leeches.
Difference is that all NFL teams are profitable where as nearly every prem team makes a loss. You're purely buying United for the prestige which makes it a different proposition.

Frimley111R

15,690 posts

235 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Gone a bit AMG said:
Given that the Washington Commanders bidding has gone to £6bn to suggest United is worth less than half that is nonsense given our global fan base and the popularity of premier league around the world.

Building above the railway line would raise capacity at OT to almost 90,000 making it the largest capacity stadium in football. That’s going to cost a lot less than a new stadium. I can see the greedy fkers taking investment, doing that and holding out for more in a few years.

fking leeches.
Buying a business is more than just the figures though. Brand strength and loyalty is huge and that equals excellent revenue making potential. TV audiences are climbing overall and so are advertising revenues. The glazers just see the club as any other business and their job is to maximise returns, they DGAF about what people think and that's made them the success they are today.

Adam.

27,293 posts

255 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Frimley111R said:
Buying a business is more than just the figures though. Brand strength and loyalty is huge and that equals excellent revenue making potential. TV audiences are climbing overall and so are advertising revenues.
Revenue for show, profit for pro. smile



How much more blood can be squeezed out the stone I wonder. The Glazers did sponsorship deals with anyone out there. Your P&L is going to get hammered if it has to finance infrastructure investment.

This is not a MU specific problme of course.

I cant see how any EPL team is a good investment unless a) cheating FFP rules and sports-washing or b) buying a distressed asset at knock-dwon prices (Liverpool) or c) buying with borrowed money and creaming off a £20m dividend every year (United)




Challo

10,209 posts

156 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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GTO-3R said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
Given that the Washington Commanders bidding has gone to £6bn to suggest United is worth less than half that is nonsense given our global fan base and the popularity of premier league around the world.

Building above the railway line would raise capacity at OT to almost 90,000 making it the largest capacity stadium in football. That’s going to cost a lot less than a new stadium. I can see the greedy fkers taking investment, doing that and holding out for more in a few years.

fking leeches.
Difference is that all NFL teams are profitable where as nearly every prem team makes a loss. You're purely buying United for the prestige which makes it a different proposition.
Plus NFL teams never have to face relegation, or rely on getting into CL each year to boost coffers. They all get the same money equally from TV rights, and they all have salary caps to even it up financially.

The potential for United revenues are huge given the club fanbase, but the the amount of investment needed into the stadium and training ground is staggering. Also Chelsea went for 4.25 Billion, so you can see why the Glazers think 6 is achievable.

Will be interesting to see what the offers are from the bidding parties. Both have indicated they wont over pay.

Wombat3

12,246 posts

207 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Challo said:
GTO-3R said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
Given that the Washington Commanders bidding has gone to £6bn to suggest United is worth less than half that is nonsense given our global fan base and the popularity of premier league around the world.

Building above the railway line would raise capacity at OT to almost 90,000 making it the largest capacity stadium in football. That’s going to cost a lot less than a new stadium. I can see the greedy fkers taking investment, doing that and holding out for more in a few years.

fking leeches.
Difference is that all NFL teams are profitable where as nearly every prem team makes a loss. You're purely buying United for the prestige which makes it a different proposition.
Plus NFL teams never have to face relegation, or rely on getting into CL each year to boost coffers. They all get the same money equally from TV rights, and they all have salary caps to even it up financially.

The potential for United revenues are huge given the club fanbase, but the the amount of investment needed into the stadium and training ground is staggering. Also Chelsea went for 4.25 Billion, so you can see why the Glazers think 6 is achievable.

Will be interesting to see what the offers are from the bidding parties. Both have indicated they wont over pay.
The Glazers did not pluck £6Bn out the air, they will have been advised by the Raine group that that is what they can get for it.
If RG had said £5Bn then that's what they would have asked.

and31

3,076 posts

128 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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The Glazers are just bloodsucking s.(which we knew already)

Wilmslowboy

4,216 posts

207 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Adam. said:
This was surprising

“Wages were down £20.4m to £77.3m, a decrease of 20.9% as Erik ten Hag's team are not in this season's Champions League.”

So players get a 25% bonus if you are in PL?
...and perhaps the 13 weeks savings of CR's salary.

G-wiz

2,196 posts

27 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Good result for us today, to start the Premiership weekend.

franki68

10,425 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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G-wiz said:
Good result for us today, to start the Premiership weekend.
I am more worried about city doing the treble than liverpool catching us so not for me.

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Olivera said:
GTO-3R said:
This this pretty much sums it all up and what the wkers have done to our club mad

Plus the stadium and other infrastructure is now creaky and well past its sell by date in comparison to other top clubs. The Glazer's mooted demands for bids of £5bn+ is fantasy land stuff - they're cynically attempting to offload it for a vastly inflated fee during a Ten Haag 'bounce'.
And yet even if they "only" sell it for 2.8bn, they'll still have made a 2bn profit AND taken 1bn out of the place during their tenure (if the figures above are accurate)..

As a business decision, that doesn't seem too shabby to me.

When club fans see money coming into their club, it's always a mistake to think it's the goodness of the hearts of those buying it driving their decision. These are businesses. If you don't like it, stop paying the Sky subs, stop paying for tickets, stop buying the merch...go and support a club owned by a fan.

Very few will. The bandwagon will keep rolling. Fans will keep on getting milked smile

and31

3,076 posts

128 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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franki68 said:
G-wiz said:
Good result for us today, to start the Premiership weekend.
I am more worried about city doing the treble than liverpool catching us so not for me.

Me too

LF5335

6,032 posts

44 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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and31 said:
franki68 said:
G-wiz said:
Good result for us today, to start the Premiership weekend.
I am more worried about city doing the treble than liverpool catching us so not for me.

Me too
Yep and it’s a real possibility too. I hope we can mess up the FA Cup for them and win it for ourselves, as I think they’ll win the league amd the CL is anyone’s guess.

and31

3,076 posts

128 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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LF5335 said:
and31 said:
franki68 said:
G-wiz said:
Good result for us today, to start the Premiership weekend.
I am more worried about city doing the treble than liverpool catching us so not for me.

Me too
Yep and it’s a real possibility too. I hope we can mess up the FA Cup for them and win it for ourselves, as I think they’ll win the league amd the CL is anyone’s guess.
If they win the league it’s a very good chance they could win next year and have three on the trot-we simply can’t have that.-I’d rather put up with the Arsenal gobstes coming out the woodwork if they win it…..

GTO-3R

7,497 posts

214 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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I fancy Bayern to turn City over tbh, especially now Tuchel has taken over.

Gone a bit AMG

6,733 posts

198 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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GTO-3R said:
I fancy Bayern to turn City over tbh, especially now Tuchel has taken over.

FFS I know they’ve only 3 fans on here but I thought we’d learnt about early chirps!

LF5335

6,032 posts

44 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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and31 said:
If they win the league it’s a very good chance they could win next year and have three on the trot-we simply can’t have that.-I’d rather put up with the Arsenal gobstes coming out the woodwork if they win it…..
Eh? This year would be three on the trot, next year would be four.
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