The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 11)

The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 11)

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simon800

2,377 posts

108 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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Interesting article on DDG here;


Manchester United: From unorthodox to unreliable – what has happened to David de Gea?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65735832

SWoll

18,451 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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As an outsider looking in I don't get the isue with DDG. Wins the golden gloves competition despite shipping 7 in one game against Liverpool, has a higher shot/save percentage than Ramsdale or Ederson despite facing more shots than either of them and still gets moaned about.

He's not the problem, it's the lack of goals at the other end of the pitch that needs resolving if you're going to challenge MC IMHO.

franki68

10,415 posts

222 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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SWoll said:
As an outsider looking in I don't get the isue with DDG. Wins the golden gloves competition despite shipping 7 in one game against Liverpool, has a higher shot/save percentage than Ramsdale or Ederson despite facing more shots than either of them and still gets moaned about.

He's not the problem, it's the lack of goals at the other end of the pitch that needs resolving if you're going to challenge MC IMHO.
He makes some serious mistakes but that isn’t the real issue ,the problem is his distribution is atrocious which is quite important in the modern era ,he also has no command of his box .
His shot stopping is astonishing of that there is no question but his weaknesses put the team under pressure .

SWoll

18,451 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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franki68 said:
He makes some serious mistakes but that isn’t the real issue ,the problem is his distribution is atrocious which is quite important in the modern era ,he also has no command of his box .
His shot stopping is astonishing of that there is no question but his weaknesses put the team under pressure .
Keepers are a risky business (just ask Chelsea) and there is a very small group of elite possibilities. You could find someone who's better at distributing the ball but chances are they'll concede more goals, also putting your team under pressure.

Just seems a long way down the priority list to me?

Challo

10,175 posts

156 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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SWoll said:
franki68 said:
He makes some serious mistakes but that isn’t the real issue ,the problem is his distribution is atrocious which is quite important in the modern era ,he also has no command of his box .
His shot stopping is astonishing of that there is no question but his weaknesses put the team under pressure .
Keepers are a risky business (just ask Chelsea) and there is a very small group of elite possibilities. You could find someone who's better at distributing the ball but chances are they'll concede more goals, also putting your team under pressure.

Just seems a long way down the priority list to me?
I think in the big picture he is down the list in terms of priorities. I think it would be good for us to pick-up a younger keeper in the summer, bed him in during next season with the idea that he will be 1st choice.

To get someone now who can start straight away will be a few quid and we dont have that at the moment.

You can see he has a couple of big issues which wont get better and means he doesn't fit into ETH style, but we will have to live with it for another season.

Gone a bit AMG

6,725 posts

198 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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SWoll said:
franki68 said:
He makes some serious mistakes but that isn’t the real issue ,the problem is his distribution is atrocious which is quite important in the modern era ,he also has no command of his box .
His shot stopping is astonishing of that there is no question but his weaknesses put the team under pressure .
Keepers are a risky business (just ask Chelsea) and there is a very small group of elite possibilities. You could find someone who's better at distributing the ball but chances are they'll concede more goals, also putting your team under pressure.

Just seems a long way down the priority list to me?
It is but DDG divides opinion amongst United fans. I for one am glad he’s staying. Loyal, no fuss, huge experience and whilst I agree on his distribution isn’t great passing to Maguire is always going to be hazardous. Better the Red Devil you know. Every keeper makes mistakes and he saves us more points than he costs us. And if Martinez is fit his passing is less relevant as he can receive the ball on the turn as can Varane and lately Shaw.

I want to see him gracefully move into our number 2 as he’ll be perfect. Last thing United need now is the debacle we had replacing Schmeichel when we’ve glaring issues elsewhere.

franki68

10,415 posts

222 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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SWoll said:
Keepers are a risky business (just ask Chelsea) and there is a very small group of elite possibilities. You could find someone who's better at distributing the ball but chances are they'll concede more goals, also putting your team under pressure.

Just seems a long way down the priority list to me?
It isn’t the most important issue and yes hard to identify a replacement but you asked a question which I hope I answered .

LF5335

5,995 posts

44 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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SWoll said:
Keepers are a risky business (just ask Chelsea) and there is a very small group of elite possibilities. You could find someone who's better at distributing the ball but chances are they'll concede more goals, also putting your team under pressure.

Just seems a long way down the priority list to me?
His contract is up. That makes it a priority whether we have other glaring issues or not.

Daz68

3,370 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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So looking forward to tomorrow and nervous at the same time. I remember as a kid watching us stopping Liverpool doing the treble. Can it happen again? Shame we don't have the build up on tv anymore till kick off.

and31

3,062 posts

128 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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Daz68 said:
So looking forward to tomorrow and nervous at the same time. I remember as a kid watching us stopping Liverpool doing the treble. Can it happen again? Shame we don't have the build up on tv anymore till kick off.
That was great!!
Everyone would be up watching FA cup day no matter who was playing-remember the helicopters following the teams coaches to Wembley!!
I can remember us being massive underdogs in 1985 against a very powerful Everton side that were expecting to roll us over and we played a lot of the game with ten men and Norman scored a belter!

and31

3,062 posts

128 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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Daz68 said:
So looking forward to tomorrow and nervous at the same time. I remember as a kid watching us stopping Liverpool doing the treble. Can it happen again? Shame we don't have the build up on tv anymore till kick off.
That was great!!
Everyone would be up watching FA cup day no matter who was playing-remember the helicopters following the teams coaches to Wembley!!
I can remember us being massive underdogs in 1985 against a very powerful Everton side that we’re expecting to roll us over and we played a lot of the game with ten men and Norman scored a belter!

and31

3,062 posts

128 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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The city fans seem very confident indeed-and why not.
Let’s hope the city players are over confident too.
We’ve nothing to lose.
Couldn’t get tickets for the final for a reasonable price,so my son and me and the lads I work with that go with us to Manchester are watching in the pub tomorrow-nobody is expecting too much,I’m still busting for tomorrow!!


Edited by and31 on Saturday 3rd June 00:16

Wilmslowboy

4,215 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Time to get up…..get on a coach for 6:30….and cross fingers.

As my mum would say, “at least the weather looks like it will be nice.”


jgrewal

759 posts

48 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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It is the hope that kills you but we are the mighty reds. Come on United!

57Ford

4,056 posts

135 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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and31 said:
Daz68 said:
So looking forward to tomorrow and nervous at the same time. I remember as a kid watching us stopping Liverpool doing the treble. Can it happen again? Shame we don't have the build up on tv anymore till kick off.
That was great!!
Everyone would be up watching FA cup day no matter who was playing-remember the helicopters following the teams coaches to Wembley!!
I can remember us being massive underdogs in 1985 against a very powerful Everton side that we’re expecting to roll us over and we played a lot of the game with ten men and Norman scored a belter!
I was reminiscing about this recently. It used to be a whole day of interviews and team stories etc with the helicopter shots of the bus and the fans streaming down Wembley Way. It’s just another matchday now, sadly the magic is gone.

SWoll

18,451 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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57Ford said:
I was reminiscing about this recently. It used to be a whole day of interviews and team stories etc with the helicopter shots of the bus and the fans streaming down Wembley Way. It’s just another matchday now, sadly the magic is gone.
The BBC are currently showing an hour long football focus devoted to the final, and then after a quick break for the news at 1:00 for 15 minutes they then have another couple of hours of build up. Not sure what more you're looking for TBH as 3 hours is surely sufficient?




dickymint

24,412 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Daz68 said:
So looking forward to tomorrow and nervous at the same time. I remember as a kid watching us stopping Liverpool doing the treble. Can it happen again? Shame we don't have the build up on tv anymore till kick off.
confused It's on BBC1 all day give or take a few breaks.

G-wiz

2,181 posts

27 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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He wants to see the players oil each other up in the changing room, before the game. Around 14:39, approximately.

Frimley111R

15,680 posts

235 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Looking forward to this, don't think we'll be a push over and have a good chance here. We've beaten them this season, time to do it again.

Cie

18,783 posts

194 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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Who’s scared?

Me

Just hope we don’t get embarrassed, setting my expectations low laugh
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