The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

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JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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I don't understand this one - I thought VAR wouldn't be used for stone-wallers confused


scoopdydoo

395 posts

90 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Celtic playing Aberdeen off the park, 2-0 after 13 minutes.

The Rangers struggling to break through at the Spaghettihad after 25 minutes, you know what's coming next...

hotchy

4,476 posts

127 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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scoopdydoo said:
Celtic playing Aberdeen off the park, 2-0 after 13 minutes.

The Rangers struggling to break through at the Spaghettihad after 25 minutes, you know what's coming next...
You called it! PENALTY RANGERS!

lol

scoopdydoo

395 posts

90 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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hotchy said:
You called it! PENALTY RANGERS!

lol
A tale as old as the new club.

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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A controlled, unpretty game at Livingston today.

Rangers players playing within themselves on an absolutely diabolical surface that looked pretty waterlogged half an hour in.

Good win at a hard place to go, avoided any injuries for next week and tavs free kick was a beauty.

Looks like Aberdeen done there usual lying down, absolutely no Surprise at that as they have the worst head to head record in the league

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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hotchy said:
scoopdydoo said:
Celtic playing Aberdeen off the park, 2-0 after 13 minutes.

The Rangers struggling to break through at the Spaghettihad after 25 minutes, you know what's coming next...
You called it! PENALTY RANGERS!

lol
Another poor performance for Rangers and ANOTHER penalty and red card.

Last week VAR ignored a rugby tackle in the box that should have been a penalty for Partick Thistle. Also awarded a penalty for a foul yards outside the box.

This week a tug on the shirt when the other defender was already winning the ball, which happens in lots of games without any punishment, VAR suddenly wants to dish out a penalty. Complete double standards.

It's nearing every week Rangers are getting an unfair helping hand.


Katzenjammer

1,085 posts

179 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Driver101 said:
hotchy said:
scoopdydoo said:
Celtic playing Aberdeen off the park, 2-0 after 13 minutes.

The Rangers struggling to break through at the Spaghettihad after 25 minutes, you know what's coming next...
You called it! PENALTY RANGERS!

lol
Another poor performance for Rangers and ANOTHER penalty and red card.

Last week VAR ignored a rugby tackle in the box that should have been a penalty for Partick Thistle. Also awarded a penalty for a foul yards outside the box.

This week a tug on the shirt when the other defender was already winning the ball, which happens in lots of games without any punishment, VAR suddenly wants to dish out a penalty. Complete double standards.

It's nearing every week Rangers are getting an unfair helping hand.
They still won’t win the league though! It’s the team in third that’s affected most.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Katzenjammer said:
Driver101 said:
hotchy said:
scoopdydoo said:
Celtic playing Aberdeen off the park, 2-0 after 13 minutes.

The Rangers struggling to break through at the Spaghettihad after 25 minutes, you know what's coming next...
You called it! PENALTY RANGERS!

lol
Another poor performance for Rangers and ANOTHER penalty and red card.

Last week VAR ignored a rugby tackle in the box that should have been a penalty for Partick Thistle. Also awarded a penalty for a foul yards outside the box.

This week a tug on the shirt when the other defender was already winning the ball, which happens in lots of games without any punishment, VAR suddenly wants to dish out a penalty. Complete double standards.

It's nearing every week Rangers are getting an unfair helping hand.
They still won’t win the league though! It’s the team in third that’s affected most.
When you look at the amount of game changing errors, or different standards of VAR, that have been made in benefit of Rangers the gap between Rangers and Hearts wouldn't be that big. That's allowing for Hearts having a few decisions.

Rangers won't win the league. It has kept it down to 9 points and create false hope.

Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 18th February 22:40

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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That's Livingston's third game against Rangers this season.

First game Livingston had a late equalising goal wrongly disallowed. Lost 2-1.

Second game Livingston were winning 1-0 at Ibrox. VAR intervened and upgraded a yellow card to a red. It was a bad tackle, but sometimes they are yellow. It wasn't clear and obvious error for VAR to intervene. Rangers equalised late on.

The same comments about the Rangers' penalty yesterday are everywhere. Shirt pulls happen all the time and they are not picked up. Why did VAR suddenly decide to penalise an off the ball pull yesterday?

They have put themselves in another sticky position where fans will want a penalty for the same thing in every game now. It won't happen.

I read that neither of Oméonga's fouls deserved a booking. The second yellow was never a yellow. Roofe throws his leg backwards and takes a dive to win the freekick.

Three games and all games have game defining decisions for Rangers. I'm sure if Livingston finish in the top 6 the decisions will equal themselves up in the last game. biglaugh


DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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The only thing more tedious than Rangers getting decisions go their way is all you Celtic supporters going on and on about it ad nauseam...

scoopdydoo

395 posts

90 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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DocJock said:
The only thing more tedious than Rangers getting decisions go their way is all you Celtic supporters going on and on about it ad nauseam...
Correct. Doesn't affect us as we keep winning. It should be the Livingston fans up in arms about it this time.

I just saw the second yellow that led to the free kick they scored, games a bogey with officiating like that.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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DocJock said:
The only thing more tedious than Rangers getting decisions go their way is all you Celtic supporters going on and on about it ad nauseam...
Part and parcel of football games is talking about the big decisions and wrong calls in games. People are only going on about it all the time because it's happening all the time.

It's far from just Celtic fans that are unhappy with the decisions in games. Recent rivals of Rangers are calling the decisions blatant and obvious cheating. They are furious and with good reason too.

There's not many posts on Livingston's forum, but they were already predicted what would happen before it did.

Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 10:47

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Yes, we all know how it appears, but constantly greeting about it,

A) Won't change it
B) Makes you look like spoilt wee kids
C) Gets pretty fking tedious very quickly.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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DocJock said:
Yes, we all know how it appears, but constantly greeting about it,

A) Won't change it
B) Makes you look like spoilt wee kids
C) Gets pretty fking tedious very quickly.
Every thread on this forum has supporters greeting about decisions. It's part of football. Every week there is VAR errors it dominates English football threads and shows. Their usage of VAR is still vastly better than Scottish football.

Why does it upset you? Your rare appearances on this thread are when Rangers are under scrutiny.


On a near weekly basis everyone is talking about controversial and wrong decisions in Rangers games. We are at the point when too many games are ending in controversy and they are being widely discussed. The live broadcast, the highlights shows, the newspapers, other fans are all talking about it. There's more discussion about decisions than there is football as these decisions are defining and changing games. They are the biggest talking points of the games.

I genuinely believe we are nearing the point something has to change. There has never been a stronger feeling in Scottish football and the credibility and integrity is under question. Games can't keep ending in controversy and everyone talking about decisions and the officials and not the football.

VAR was supposed to be the tool to stop controversial errors and genuine mistakes happening. It has done the opposite. Rangers have been VARed to a different standard to all other teams.

Fans can't be left with genuine feelings that their team is going to be cheated before the whistle blows. Sadly they do and the decisions in the games back that up.


Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 12:02

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Pulling a shirt in the box with var is stupid, if he’s clearly not going to win the ball then It’s absolute stupidity. Shirt pull = foul.

Can’t remember omeongas first foul but his second was again stupid, roofe is too clever for him and has the ball on his left side, omeonga tackles from his right, roofe sees the challenge coming in and moves the ball away. Another foul and stupidity from omeonga because he knows he’s already been booked.

Celtic fans in here creating controversy over what is standard refereeing. It was the same with the Partick thistle game and pretty much every game before that. It’s some weird inferiority complex and is best ignored.

Tomanybikes

987 posts

27 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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dalzo said:
Pulling a shirt in the box with var is stupid, if he’s clearly not going to win the ball then It’s absolute stupidity. Shirt pull = foul.

Can’t remember omeongas first foul but his second was again stupid, roofe is too clever for him and has the ball on his left side, omeonga tackles from his right, roofe sees the challenge coming in and moves the ball away. Another foul and stupidity from omeonga because he knows he’s already been booked.

Celtic fans in here creating controversy over what is standard refereeing. It was the same with the Partick thistle game and pretty much every game before that. It’s some weird inferiority complex and is best ignored.
Deflecting again?

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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dalzo said:
Pulling a shirt in the box with var is stupid, if he’s clearly not going to win the ball then It’s absolute stupidity. Shirt pull = foul.

Can’t remember omeongas first foul but his second was again stupid, roofe is too clever for him and has the ball on his left side, omeonga tackles from his right, roofe sees the challenge coming in and moves the ball away. Another foul and stupidity from omeonga because he knows he’s already been booked.

Celtic fans in here creating controversy over what is standard refereeing. It was the same with the Partick thistle game and pretty much every game before that. It’s some weird inferiority complex and is best ignored.
Shirt pulling and jostling happens in the box at every set play and cross. There are very, very rarely given as a penalty. Usually the only time they are given is when they stop a goal scoring chance. Morelos was nowhere near the ball and the first defender was always winning the ball.

VAR hasn't intervened in similar circumstances before, but did yesterday. That's the problem. It's Rangers constantly benefitting from decisions that no other team is getting. The decisions are always given when Rangers are struggling and needing a helping hand.

Celtic fans creating controvery? It's decisions that are being discussed widely across Scottish football. It's strange you only see it as a Celtic instigated issue when most people are on the same page. It is a poor attempt at deflecting.

Weird inferiority complex? You were the person accusing Aberdeen of lying down to Celtic in your last post.

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Driver101 said:
Shirt pulling and jostling happens in the box at every set play and cross. There are very, very rarely given as a penalty. Usually the only time they are given is when they stop a goal scoring chance. Morelos was nowhere near the ball and the first defender was always winning the ball.

VAR hasn't intervened in similar circumstances before, but did yesterday. That's the problem. It's Rangers constantly benefitting from decisions that no other team is getting. The decisions are always given when Rangers are struggling and needing a helping hand.

Celtic fans creating controvery? It's decisions that are being discussed widely across Scottish football. It's strange you only see it as a Celtic instigated issue when most people are on the same page. It is a poor attempt at deflecting.

Weird inferiority complex? You were the person accusing Aberdeen of lying down to Celtic in your last post.
Is a shirt pull in the box as defined by the rules a penalty?

The nowhere near the ball doesn’t help your argument it makes it worse. Why pull his shirt and try to stop him jump if he’s not going to get it?

What similar circumstances has there been since var was introduced?

I don’t see any fans of other teams talking about it, in fact the only one I do has just said it’s tedious listening you all greeting on about decisions


Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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dalzo said:
Is a shirt pull in the box as defined by the rules a penalty?

The nowhere near the ball doesn’t help your argument it makes it worse. Why pull his shirt and try to stop him jump if he’s not going to get it?

What similar circumstances has there been since var was introduced?

I don’t see any fans of other teams talking about it, in fact the only one I do has just said it’s tedious listening you all greeting on about decisions
Morelos wasn't getting near the ball. The first defender was always winning the ball. There isn't any argument in that.

Shirt pulling happens in every game. Why aren't they all given as penalties? There would be multiple penalities given in every game if shirt pulling is punished by penalties.

Partick Thistle didn't get a penalty last week when Tillman rugby tackled the Patrick Thistle player to the floor.

On every occasion you have a chance to greet about Celtic you're all over the forum. Sadly you've not had a lot to greet about so are reduced to the yellow card count conspiracy and suggesting teams are lying down.

You only see Celtic fans talking about it? biglaughbiglaugh Read the forums of the teams you are playing. Read the newspapers, watch the games and highlights on TV. Everyone is talking about the controversial decisions. They are the biggest talking points of games.

I'm suspecting that's a huge big porky pie and an attempt to deflect as you cannot be that oblivious.




Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 14:22

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Driver101 said:
Morelos wasn't getting near the ball. The first defender was always winning the ball. There isn't any argument in that.

Shirt pulling happens in every game. Why aren't they all given as penalties? There would be multiple penalities given in every game if shirt pulling is punished by penalties.

Partick Thistle didn't get a penalty last week when Tillman rugby tackled the Patrick Thistle player to the floor.

On every occasion you have a chance to greet about Celtic you're all over the forum. Sadly you've not had a lot to greet about so are reduced to the yellow card count conspiracy and suggesting teams are lying down.

You only see Celtic fans talking about it? biglaughbiglaugh Read the forums of the teams you are playing. Read the newspapers, watch the games and highlights on TV. Everyone is talking about the controversial decisions. They are the biggest talking points of games.

I'm suspecting that's a huge big porky pie and an attempt to deflect as you cannot be that oblivious.




Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 14:22
I’ll ask again as you’ve skirted round the actual question, is shirt pulling in the box as per the rules a penalty? Simple yes or no?

I really don’t care to go on opposing teams forums and I think it’s quite disturbing to do it on the team your rivals are playing for some sort of validation