The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)
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dalzo said:
I’ll ask again as you’ve skirted round the actual question, is shirt pulling in the box as per the rules a penalty? Simple yes or no?
I really don’t care to go on opposing teams forums and I think it’s quite disturbing to do it on the team your rivals are playing for some sort of validation
By the letter of the law it should be a penalty. But then it should be a penalty every time. Livingston should have had a penalty too when Barasic wrapped his arms round the Livi player at the corner and pulled him away from the ball. Nearly every corner in the modern game would result in a penalty.I really don’t care to go on opposing teams forums and I think it’s quite disturbing to do it on the team your rivals are playing for some sort of validation
The inconsistency is favouring one team and one team only.
dalzo said:
Driver101 said:
Morelos wasn't getting near the ball. The first defender was always winning the ball. There isn't any argument in that.
Shirt pulling happens in every game. Why aren't they all given as penalties? There would be multiple penalities given in every game if shirt pulling is punished by penalties.
Partick Thistle didn't get a penalty last week when Tillman rugby tackled the Patrick Thistle player to the floor.
On every occasion you have a chance to greet about Celtic you're all over the forum. Sadly you've not had a lot to greet about so are reduced to the yellow card count conspiracy and suggesting teams are lying down.
You only see Celtic fans talking about it?
Read the forums of the teams you are playing. Read the newspapers, watch the games and highlights on TV. Everyone is talking about the controversial decisions. They are the biggest talking points of games.
I'm suspecting that's a huge big porky pie and an attempt to deflect as you cannot be that oblivious.
I’ll ask again as you’ve skirted round the actual question, is shirt pulling in the box as per the rules a penalty? Simple yes or no?Shirt pulling happens in every game. Why aren't they all given as penalties? There would be multiple penalities given in every game if shirt pulling is punished by penalties.
Partick Thistle didn't get a penalty last week when Tillman rugby tackled the Patrick Thistle player to the floor.
On every occasion you have a chance to greet about Celtic you're all over the forum. Sadly you've not had a lot to greet about so are reduced to the yellow card count conspiracy and suggesting teams are lying down.
You only see Celtic fans talking about it?
Read the forums of the teams you are playing. Read the newspapers, watch the games and highlights on TV. Everyone is talking about the controversial decisions. They are the biggest talking points of games. I'm suspecting that's a huge big porky pie and an attempt to deflect as you cannot be that oblivious.
Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 14:22
I really don’t care to go on opposing teams forums and I think it’s quite disturbing to do it on the team your rivals are playing for some sort of validation
No it is not the rules applied on the park. It never has been. Even with the benefit of VAR it's extremely rare for shirt pulling to be pulled up unless it has significant impact. VAR should never have got involved yesterday as shirt pulling goes on all the time. That shirt pull was not a clear and obvious error for VAR to get involved.
Quite disturbing reading what people have to say about a game of football? I like keeping up with games and reading football forums, football articles and watching Scottish football. You have on many occasions talked about what you have read on another forums or social media. Now you are trying to belittle and gaslight me because I have. You need to stop sinking into this behaviour on every argument.
Anyways, if you're going to carry on I'll ignore you for the day.
Driver101 said:
I've not skirted around anything.
No it is not the rules applied on the park. It never has been. Even with the benefit of VAR it's extremely rare for shirt pulling to be pulled up unless it has significant impact. VAR should never have got involved yesterday as shirt pulling goes on all the time. That shirt pull was not a clear and obvious error for VAR to get involved.
Quite disturbing reading what people have to say about a game of football? I like keeping up with games and reading football forums, football articles and watching Scottish football. You have on many occasions talked about what you have read on another forums or social media. Now you are trying to belittle and gaslight me because I have. You need to stop sinking into this behaviour on every argument.
Anyways, if you're going to carry on I'll ignore you for the day.
Shirt pulling has always been a foul and a penalty in the box and in the era of VAR nothing is missed.No it is not the rules applied on the park. It never has been. Even with the benefit of VAR it's extremely rare for shirt pulling to be pulled up unless it has significant impact. VAR should never have got involved yesterday as shirt pulling goes on all the time. That shirt pull was not a clear and obvious error for VAR to get involved.
Quite disturbing reading what people have to say about a game of football? I like keeping up with games and reading football forums, football articles and watching Scottish football. You have on many occasions talked about what you have read on another forums or social media. Now you are trying to belittle and gaslight me because I have. You need to stop sinking into this behaviour on every argument.
Anyways, if you're going to carry on I'll ignore you for the day.
Holding a player to stop him jump by pulling his shirt is a foul it’s desperation to create controversy through your own bias that keeping you going with this.
No going onto the opponents of your rivals team to see if they are upset about any refereeing decisions so you can come on here and use it as validation is what is disturbing.
Please do but we know you won’t
zj2016 said:
Driver101 - glad to see that Rangers have consumed your weekend again - haha.
Says the person whose only PH participation is concerned about what I've said. zj2016 said:
You seem to to like to talk about controversial decisions involving rangers. However your bias means that you what you feel to see is that the decisions aren’t controversial but they are to you because they involve Rangers.
I'll cut out the whataboutery and the insults. When the controversial decisions are the biggest talking points in Scottish football of course I'm going to talk about them. It's impossible to turn a blind eye to the amount of game changing decisions being awarded to Rangers. It's happening nearly every week.
They aren't controversial decisions?
They are just reported as controversial decisions, they are debated in-depth on all football programmes and news reports, most pundits and fans don't agree with most of the decisions, yet you don't see any controversy?
Driver101 said:
Man calls me a bigot then launches a vile bigoted attack. Lost for words.
Chuckled at that myself. Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 17:18
How dare fans of any other team disagree with him, they must be bigoted.
Need to wonder why his mind immediately then goes to child abuse as points scoring as if it didn't happen at his own club. People who do that need their hard drives checked.
Driver101 said:
DocJock said:
Yes, we all know how it appears, but constantly greeting about it,
A) Won't change it
B) Makes you look like spoilt wee kids
C) Gets pretty f
king tedious very quickly.
Every thread on this forum has supporters greeting about decisions. It's part of football. Every week there is VAR errors it dominates English football threads and shows. Their usage of VAR is still vastly better than Scottish football. They are not constantly whining about supposed bias towards one other team. That is confined to the Celtic supporters on this one threadA) Won't change it
B) Makes you look like spoilt wee kids
C) Gets pretty f
king tedious very quickly. Why does it upset you? Your rare appearances on this thread are when Rangers are under scrutiny. As previously said, it is utterly tedious seeing the same greeting over and over again. As for the rarity of my posting, relating to Rangers, I do call out the childish (and often completely inaccurate) posts re Rangers status as a club and their competitive records. I also find the one-eyed, tit-for-tat BS between the Celtic and Rangers supporters, with their "we are all good, they are all bad" attitudes overwhelm any chance of discussion. The main reason I post rarely though is I can't be arsed arguing the toss with thread captains like you.
On a near weekly basis everyone is talking about controversial and wrong decisions in Rangers games. We are at the point when too many games are ending in controversy and they are being widely discussed. The live broadcast, the highlights shows, the newspapers, other fans are all talking about it. There's more discussion about decisions than there is football as these decisions are defining and changing games. They are the biggest talking points of the games. That has nothing o do with my comment, which relates to this thread, not all the other media
I genuinely believe we are nearing the point something has to change. There has never been a stronger feeling in Scottish football and the credibility and integrity is under question. Games can't keep ending in controversy and everyone talking about decisions and the officials and not the football.
VAR was supposed to be the tool to stop controversial errors and genuine mistakes happening. It has done the opposite. Rangers have been VARed to a different standard to all other teams. I happen to agree but I also know bleating and moaning ain't gonna change it
Fans can't be left with genuine feelings that their team is going to be cheated before the whistle blows. Sadly they do and the decisions in the games back that up.
What was the Rangers score?...0-0...Who missed the penalty?...As I've said previously on this thread, standard comment since circa 1972, so what's changed?
Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 19th February 12:02
Edited by DocJock on Sunday 19th February 18:28
DocJock said:
Your "paedodome" comment was unnecessary in the context of the discussion and inflammatory. It also kinda validated my point about the interactions between Celtic and Rangers supporters on this thread.
A Celtic fan watching/commenting on a Rangers game during a Celtic game is also unnecessary.It’s a completely alien concept to me.
Change paedodome to whatever your chosen name for Celtic Park is.
In my view, at 3 o’clock on a Sat that is where a Celtic fan should be, not watching the rangers game and getting all worked up on piston heads.
However each to their own.
My main point is that Celtic fans who watching rangers games rather than Celtic are the ones that think every decision has to be controversial. However in reality the problem isn’t rangers it’s their own intolerance of rangers.
It's utterly shameful to resort to historic child abuse in an attempt to offend and score points. It really is the lowest of the low behaviour. Something you only get from the worst football supporters.
What the people that do it don't realise is they are just embarrassing themselves. People aren't reading your views and thinking you are making good points. They see you for what you are.
What the people that do it don't realise is they are just embarrassing themselves. People aren't reading your views and thinking you are making good points. They see you for what you are.
I don't think it just the lowest of football supporters but the lowest of humanity who brag or point score about it.
Probably like the kind of person too simple to understand that in the age where you can video call someone halfway round the world you might be able to sit in the comfort of your own home and watch more than one football match at once. Or at least see key points in the game minutes after they happen via social media.
Anyway I don't think a DISCUSSION FORUM is the right place for anyone who can't understand people wanting to DISCUSS anything.
Probably like the kind of person too simple to understand that in the age where you can video call someone halfway round the world you might be able to sit in the comfort of your own home and watch more than one football match at once. Or at least see key points in the game minutes after they happen via social media.
Anyway I don't think a DISCUSSION FORUM is the right place for anyone who can't understand people wanting to DISCUSS anything.
scoopdydoo said:
I don't think it just the lowest of football supporters but the lowest of humanity who brag or point score about it.
Probably like the kind of person too simple to understand that in the age where you can video call someone halfway round the world you might be able to sit in the comfort of your own home and watch more than one football match at once. Or at least see key points in the game minutes after they happen via social media.
Anyway I don't think a DISCUSSION FORUM is the right place for anyone who can't understand people wanting to DISCUSS anything.
I've never come across another group of people who are obsessed with using historic child abuse as means of point scoring as Rangers fans. There was deep issues throughout British football and a lot of clubs were involved. I've never once seen any of the threads on here from the English clubs resorting to such despicable behaviour and they get heated a lot. Not many people sink that low, but it is standard behaviour throughout much of the Rangers support. Probably like the kind of person too simple to understand that in the age where you can video call someone halfway round the world you might be able to sit in the comfort of your own home and watch more than one football match at once. Or at least see key points in the game minutes after they happen via social media.
Anyway I don't think a DISCUSSION FORUM is the right place for anyone who can't understand people wanting to DISCUSS anything.
The line about watching Rangers games keeps getting rolled out on here. Every Rangers fan on here is watching the Celtic games. They pop up anytime there is something to highlight. ZJ2016 deleted his last post. He gave a rundown of what happened in the Celtic v Aberdeen game. Strange post after saying it was weird other fans seen some of the Rangers game.
Watch or comment on the key decisions that everyone is talking about and you're made to feel as if you're a wrong one. They'll be back here when a decision goes Celtic's way.
It's just deflection.
since VAR was introduced it's the no1 talking point in scottish football. I tuned into radio scotland for a bit on saturday and VAR and the handball rule was the primary topic again. I hate that our game has been reduced to this but it is what it is.
Yet here we have zj2016 with the classic deflect and deny. Nobody is allowed to talk about VAR decisions involving Rangers?
zj2016 - if you feel so strongly about child sex abuse then please start a new thread on it. Please don't use it to deflect from VAR decisions in scottish football.
Yet here we have zj2016 with the classic deflect and deny. Nobody is allowed to talk about VAR decisions involving Rangers?
zj2016 - if you feel so strongly about child sex abuse then please start a new thread on it. Please don't use it to deflect from VAR decisions in scottish football.
Drive Blind said:
zj2016 - if you feel so strongly about child sex abuse then please start a new thread on it. Please don't use it to deflect from VAR decisions in scottish football.
Please don't start a new thread. The historic child abuse issues throughout British football were discussed in-depth on PH when it was headline news. The thread was sensitive and sympathy shown to the victims. Rangers' fans views will not go down well.
Drive Blind said:
since VAR was introduced it's the no1 talking point in scottish football. I tuned into radio scotland for a bit on saturday and VAR and the handball rule was the primary topic again. I hate that our game has been reduced to this but it is what it is.
Why don’t we have a rangers Var thread then?Everyweek it’s the same drivel. Not even any real contentious decisions this week and we’re about 2 pages into an argument about it.
There’s no discussion about the good points , tavs freekick, the Dundee United blunder goal or the great gesture from the livi captain for the young mascot who was the first wheelchair bound mascot in 10 years.
Driver101 said:
Please don't start a new thread.
The historic child abuse issues throughout British football were discussed in-depth on PH when it was headline news. The thread was sensitive and sympathy shown to the victims. Rangers' fans views will not go down well.
The historic child abuse issues throughout British football were discussed in-depth on PH when it was headline news. The thread was sensitive and sympathy shown to the victims. Rangers' fans views will not go down well.
Last time I posted it was going to trial, I had every Celtic fan in the thread foaming out the mouth telling me rangers had a paedophile too and that it was pointscoring to even discuss it. Please don’t try and take some faux moral high ground while generalising an entire support.
Final day! Hopefully a good game and the only talking points are "terrible defending, some shot, lucky rebound, shouldve, could've... " etc. The good stuff and no talking about corruption and VAR.
Looks to be warming up in the city going by twitter. Rangers fans laughing because celtic fans "ran away" from getting an assault charge? Causing trouble? What's that about. I see that as a sensible thing to do. The only idiots was the rangers fans wanting to fight. Nobody wants to spend the day in cells or hospital so I applaud the celtic fans for not getting involved in the violence rangers fans are attempting.
Anyway this build up sets up what will be a wild fire of an atmosphere in that stadium. Get your ear defenders on and rangers fans get your tissues out. Celtic 4 rangers 2.
Looks to be warming up in the city going by twitter. Rangers fans laughing because celtic fans "ran away" from getting an assault charge? Causing trouble? What's that about. I see that as a sensible thing to do. The only idiots was the rangers fans wanting to fight. Nobody wants to spend the day in cells or hospital so I applaud the celtic fans for not getting involved in the violence rangers fans are attempting.
Anyway this build up sets up what will be a wild fire of an atmosphere in that stadium. Get your ear defenders on and rangers fans get your tissues out. Celtic 4 rangers 2.
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