The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

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Tomanybikes

987 posts

27 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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Driver101 said:
First half looked like the Celtic players were having a cup final hangover. They were really slow and off pace. Far too many basic errors.

St Mirren do have a game plan to frustrate Celtic. There was too many niggly fouls to break up play and the time wasting was excessive. Robinson was encouraging time wasting before 30 minutes. Teams shouldn't be getting only 16/18% of possession and one effort on goal at home.

Taylor was unlucky with the handball, but they have usually been given this season with the exception of one team. Watching English football and they aren't giving penalities out as freely for handball.

The red card was just outside the box. VAR remembered to check that part this week.

Abada was game changing when he came on. He was the biggest difference after such a poor first half performance.
I’ve no problem with VAR or the implementation of the rules as long as they are CONSISTENT which for all teams bar 1 is happening!

hotchy

4,480 posts

127 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Wow these stats are absoloutly wild and are at the silly end standing out.

Now top teams in each league are the dominant team like celtic. However... that is the biggest anomaly iv ever seen. Outstanding anomaly. Nothing to see here at all. Just a blip..

Pen differential top 3 lgs in Europe 2018-19 to 2022-23:

Leipzig = +17
BMG = +13
BMunich = +10
Freiburg = +7

R Sociedad = +16
R Madrid = +15
Barca = +12
Ath Bilbao = +10

Man U = +25
Chelsea = +19
M City = +17
Lpool = +13

Rangers = +34
Hearts = +10
Killie = +10
Celtic = +9

Tomanybikes

987 posts

27 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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It’s all to do with possession and goal attempts/goals.
Seriously there is NO advantage being given.

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Both Celtic/hearts and rangers/hibs not being shown by sky or bt and Chelsea women and the Wigan game being shown instead.

Another blinder played by those running the game and there fantastic tv deal

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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hotchy said:
Wow these stats are absoloutly wild and are at the silly end standing out.

Now top teams in each league are the dominant team like celtic. However... that is the biggest anomaly iv ever seen. Outstanding anomaly. Nothing to see here at all. Just a blip..

Pen differential top 3 lgs in Europe 2018-19 to 2022-23:

Leipzig = +17
BMG = +13
BMunich = +10
Freiburg = +7

R Sociedad = +16
R Madrid = +15
Barca = +12
Ath Bilbao = +10

Man U = +25
Chelsea = +19
M City = +17
Lpool = +13

Rangers = +34
Hearts = +10
Killie = +10
Celtic = +9
Think we went over this before and if you used a sample size of since rangers came back up to the top league they only had 2 more penalties up until this season.

Also why not leagues more comparable with us? It seems like a stat that started off from the answer and worked back on the parameters to make it fit.

abzmike

8,422 posts

107 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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dalzo said:
Both Celtic/hearts and rangers/hibs not being shown by sky or bt and Chelsea women and the Wigan game being shown instead.

Another blinder played by those running the game and there fantastic tv deal
Compounded by the opportunity to watch FA Cup games last Tues/Weds evening, on both BBC and STV at the same time.

Edited by abzmike on Monday 6th March 18:05


Edited by abzmike on Tuesday 7th March 10:39

Terzo123

4,323 posts

209 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Tomanybikes said:
I’ve no problem with VAR or the implementation of the rules as long as they are CONSISTENT which for all teams bar 1 is happening!
Ref watch https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/16327264409...

Yet Stuart Dougal claims otherwise on the BBC version.

Ive yet to see an angle where it shows the ball hitting the Killie players hand.



Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Terzo123 said:
Tomanybikes said:
I’ve no problem with VAR or the implementation of the rules as long as they are CONSISTENT which for all teams bar 1 is happening!
Ref watch https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/16327264409...

Yet Stuart Dougal claims otherwise on the BBC version.

Ive yet to see an angle where it shows the ball hitting the Killie players hand.
They need to put on blue spectacles to see it. biglaugh

If it did touch his arm, which it doesn't look as if it did, it was on his T shirt line which is ok anyway. VAR pulling that up is a joke, but nobody is surprised anymore.

Stuart Dougal has contradicted himself numerous times on the VARdict. It's also obvious that he doesn't understand the rules of VAR.

When they were reviewing the Rangers v St Johnstone game Foster had the opinion if one of the tackles was a red card then the other tackle had to be a red. Dougal was quick to say that each incident has to be taken in isolation and one decision can't be influenced by another.

However, in the next episode it was clear he had a dislike of Derek McInnes. He made some unnecessary comments. He firstly said the game was already 2-0 before Kilmarnock had a man sent off so the decision wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game.

He also went on to say that McInnes should remember that decisions in previous games went in benefit of Kilmarnock.







dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Driver101 said:
He also went on to say that McInnes should remember that decisions in previous games went in benefit of Kilmarnock.
Unprofessional from Dougal to say that only have to look at the Celtic game where one of his players was rugby tackled In the last minute.

moanthebairns

17,950 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Big game tonight...... in League 1. Dunfermline v Falkirk, if the figures are true around 9,500 tickets sold for this. Which would equate to the entire weekends championship attendances.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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dalzo said:
Driver101 said:
He also went on to say that McInnes should remember that decisions in previous games went in benefit of Kilmarnock.
Unprofessional from Dougal to say that only have to look at the Celtic game where one of his players was rugby tackled In the last minute.
Nothing beats a big dose of exaggeration and whataboutery for deflection. biglaugh


Tomanybikes

987 posts

27 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Driver101 said:
dalzo said:
Driver101 said:
He also went on to say that McInnes should remember that decisions in previous games went in benefit of Kilmarnock.
Unprofessional from Dougal to say that only have to look at the Celtic game where one of his players was rugby tackled In the last minute.
Nothing beats a big dose of exaggeration and whataboutery for deflection. biglaugh
Nothing new then. laugh

NaePasaran

622 posts

58 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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dalzo said:
Both Celtic/hearts and rangers/hibs not being shown by sky or bt and Chelsea women and the Wigan game being shown instead.

Another blinder played by those running the game and there fantastic tv deal
Think it's to-do with current TV deal. Sky paid for 4 matches per season per stadium if they want to. Think we've already Hearts, Celtic and Rangers on TV this season which is why they haven't bothered with tomorrows game. Suspect they'll want to keep the last game for top 6 incase Celtic can win the league that weekend, meaning Hibs v Hearts in April should hopefully be a Saturday 3pm kick-off.

PS Hibs have tomorrows game available on PPV including to UK/IRE customers.

NaePasaran

622 posts

58 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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moanthebairns said:
Big game tonight...... in League 1. Dunfermline v Falkirk, if the figures are true around 9,500 tickets sold for this. Which would equate to the entire weekends championship attendances.
Some effort if true, especially for a Baltic midweek fixture.. assuming Falkirk will have 2500+ through for it?

abzmike

8,422 posts

107 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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NaePasaran said:
dalzo said:
Both Celtic/hearts and rangers/hibs not being shown by sky or bt and Chelsea women and the Wigan game being shown instead.

Another blinder played by those running the game and there fantastic tv deal
Think it's to-do with current TV deal. Sky paid for 4 matches per season per stadium if they want to. Think we've already Hearts, Celtic and Rangers on TV this season which is why they haven't bothered with tomorrows game. Suspect they'll want to keep the last game for top 6 incase Celtic can win the league that weekend, meaning Hibs v Hearts in April should hopefully be a Saturday 3pm kick-off.

PS Hibs have tomorrows game available on PPV including to UK/IRE customers.
At least there is a highlights show tomorrow night...

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Driver101 said:
Nothing beats a big dose of exaggeration and whataboutery for deflection. biglaugh
I was only agreeing with you and giving you an example. smile

Deflection? rolleyes

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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dalzo said:
Driver101 said:
Nothing beats a big dose of exaggeration and whataboutery for deflection. biglaugh
I was only agreeing with you and giving you an example. smile

Deflection? rolleyes
biglaughbiglaugh

Do you even manage to fool yourself?

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Driver101 said:
biglaughbiglaugh

Do you even manage to fool yourself?
Apologies. please continue to discredit Stuart dougal for backing a correct decision. Carry on smile

moanthebairns

17,950 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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NaePasaran said:
moanthebairns said:
Big game tonight...... in League 1. Dunfermline v Falkirk, if the figures are true around 9,500 tickets sold for this. Which would equate to the entire weekends championship attendances.
Some effort if true, especially for a Baltic midweek fixture.. assuming Falkirk will have 2500+ through for it?
Don't want to talk about it. boxedin

Tomanybikes

987 posts

27 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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dalzo said:
Driver101 said:
biglaughbiglaugh

Do you even manage to fool yourself?
Apologies. please continue to discredit Stuart dougal for backing a correct decision. Carry on smile
Like Goldson stick to volleyball. rofl