The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

[dalzo]

abzmike said:

Juranovik got taken out - Lundstrom I think - before the ball was moved up field. It was mentioned in the post goal replays, pretty clear to most eyes. Hey ho.

The highlights I watched started just as goldson was putting it up the park so couldn’t comment on it, a few decisions from both sides that people are unhappy with.

Katzenjammer said:

Was that the post with the reference to “The Sash” in it? I think Scottish courts decided in the past that song isn’t a sectarian song, so the post should be reinstated if that was the relevant post, and that was the cause of the complaint.

Nothing of that kind of stuff , just laughing at a prediction for the game and and bit of lording it over. Sure that post was after Thursdays game.

DocJock said:

Mods do read and contribute to threads as well, you know. It doesn't always require someone hitting the 'report' button.

That said,we're all supposedly old enough and thick-skinned enough to not need to clipe on each other, so I take your point.

Yeah but it wasn’t a post that stood out or blatantly offensive although I know what your saying.
The second paragraph I’m not sure I agree with it’s been a hell of a thread over the past year

[dalzo]

Drive Blind said:

SPFL vote on VAR tomorrow.

the fact there has been so little coverage of this, no coverage of tribal lines being drawn - unlike previous SPFL votes - can we assume VAR will be supported by all ?

It would Definitely change the game for the better here. I do think think If they are making that kind of investment then it would be better put to having full time referees.

[DocJock]

Maloney sacked. Can't say I'm surprised, but who are they gonna get instead? I doubt Sean Dyche would fancy the job

[dalzo]

DocJock said:

Maloney sacked. Can't say I'm surprised, but who are they gonna get instead? I doubt Sean Dyche would fancy the job

I reckon a tag team of Kevin Thompson and Scott brown.
Thompson in particular is doing great at Kelty hearts and I know rangers keep tabs on him for the future.

VAR voted in too, great news

[Drive Blind]

STV claiming 41 yes, and 1 no in the VAR vote.

[abzmike]

Why will it take until December? As just shown on telly they have then kit have been training already, and out top whistlers already use it in Europe.

[hongkongdonkey]

abzmike said:

Why will it take until December?

To give a team a head start?

[hotchy]

dalzo said:

Drive Blind said:

SPFL vote on VAR tomorrow.

the fact there has been so little coverage of this, no coverage of tribal lines being drawn - unlike previous SPFL votes - can we assume VAR will be supported by all ?

It would Definitely change the game for the better here. I do think think If they are making that kind of investment then it would be better put to having full time referees.

It would help kyogo certainly. He did get one possibly marginal offside goal and the very next game 4 blatantly onside calls for "offside"

He will also top the goals disallowed for offside scoring charts aswel though.

My personal opinion is I don't like VAR purely because of calls where someone's nose hair is offside. Not clear and obvious at all. The way it ruins celebrations etc. However the game up here is that deeply routed in cheating of the past (and of the present going by that ref performance at the weekend) it's actually needed.

[dalzo]

hotchy said:

It would help kyogo certainly. He did get one possibly marginal offside goal and the very next game 4 blatantly onside calls for "offside"

He will also top the goals disallowed for offside scoring charts aswel though.

My personal opinion is I don't like VAR purely because of calls where someone's nose hair is offside. Not clear and obvious at all. The way it ruins celebrations etc. However the game up here is that deeply routed in cheating of the past (and of the present going by that ref performance at the weekend) it's actually needed.

I can see your point on the marginal off sides with var(like barasic’s handball on Thursday) but deeply routed cheating? can you give some examples of the past? Incompetency yes, missing decisions yes but outright cheating? That’s a big accusation. Don’t get me wrong I’ve called ref’s cheats when my team has lost out of frustration but I don’t think there is deep routed conspiracy to cheat a team(Celtic) and if they have they’ve done a terrible job this past decade.

Even maddens performance at the weekend although poor the result was always going to end that way as rangers were by far and away the better team for the majority of the match.

It could be argued that kyogo was interfering with play for Celtics goal and that McGregor could have been sent off for his fouls. So while it was a crap performance it was “fair”

[Katzenjammer]

hotchy said:

dalzo said:

Drive Blind said:

SPFL vote on VAR tomorrow.

the fact there has been so little coverage of this, no coverage of tribal lines being drawn - unlike previous SPFL votes - can we assume VAR will be supported by all ?

It would Definitely change the game for the better here. I do think think If they are making that kind of investment then it would be better put to having full time referees.

It would help kyogo certainly. He did get one possibly marginal offside goal and the very next game 4 blatantly onside calls for "offside"

He will also top the goals disallowed for offside scoring charts aswel though.

My personal opinion is I don't like VAR purely because of calls where someone's nose hair is offside. Not clear and obvious at all. The way it ruins celebrations etc. However the game up here is that deeply routed in cheating of the past (and of the present going by that ref performance at the weekend) it's actually needed.

With VAR, the delay in giving decisions and ensuing celebrations might give time for potential missile throwers to cool down. Or, give them time to get their bottles ready. it’s a tough one

[dalzo]

Katzenjammer said:

With VAR, the delay in giving decisions and ensuing celebrations might give time for potential missile throwers to cool down. Or, give them time to get their bottles ready. it’s a tough one

Totally agree would have helped Hugh Dallas, fernando ricksen, nacho novo and more recently Barrie mckay

[dalzo]

Great result for rangers today and a tremendous show of character to get the win with 10 men, no complaints with baloguns tackle however ojala should have been off for his too. Really inconsistent refereeing from nick Walsh today that a few of the commentary touched on, other than good win and nice to see guys who aren’t regular starters stepping up when needed.

[Driver101]

Reading the comments from last week. I'll just laugh and move on.

Maloney being sacked is far too early. You can't give the job to a novice and sack him within 4 months after selling off the club's best player. The new Motherwell, Aberdeen and St Mirren managers are doing no better. They are all playing really badly too.

Killie deserved to beat Arbroath. They were too tense in the first half, but second half they were levels above Arbroath. Shame their plastic pitch in back in the league. I can't see Arbroath beating a Premiership team over two legs if they get that far.

Aberdeen losing the yesterday was another poor result. I've not seen the replays yet, but the Livingston keeper looked really lucky to avoid red.

Apart from a couple of wobbles Celtic were comfortable today. The game should have been won early in the game. A couple of minor panics when it wasn't needed. Two more offside calls went against Furuhashi again today. One looked a good yard onside, but it's so hard to see when he's moving so fast.

I still have no confidence that VAR will be effective up here. There's going to be far too many mistakes and fans won't accept decisions anyways. There's still always fans defending clearly wrong decisions and serious/professional foul play.

[hotchy]

If VAR was here today then kyogo has 2 goals. I'd say the linesman on that one done a decent enough Job, at a glance that does look offside. You don't see the leg playing him on until slowed down. Calls like that are pretty much impossible from the side of the pitch without any aid.

Kyogo is warming up nicely tbh. Can't decide who I want for Sunday though. Kyogo or big GG. Both tbh are really good.

[DocJock]

Driver101 said:

Maloney being sacked is far too early. You can't give the job to a novice and sack him within 4 months after selling off the club's best player. The new Motherwell, Aberdeen and St Mirren managers are doing no better. They are all playing really badly too.

It's typical of Hibs to compound their errors.

Sacking Ross is questionable as an error given his run of poor results, but appointing Maloney was just wrong, it's not a job for someone with no experience. They then kept digging their hole by sacking him after 19 games. Ridiculous, they should have seen how he started next season and decided then.

As I said at the time though, no surprise that he was sacked, the decision making by the board is very often unfathomable to me.

[abzmike]

Yes another streaming service to subscribe to... or not... if you want to watch Scotland games from 2024...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footb...

I just hope the SFA do something worthwhile with the riches they claim will be forthcoming.

[Driver101]

abzmike said:

Yes another streaming service to subscribe to... or not... if you want to watch Scotland games from 2024...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footb...

I just hope the SFA do something worthwhile with the riches they claim will be forthcoming.

Terrible news. I read they also have the rights to Wales and Northern Ireland.

The national teams should be on normal channels. Not another subscription channel. I don't know many people that are willing to pay for Premier Sports. This is pushing things too far adding another subscription to watch Scottish football.

[abzmike]

Driver101 said:

abzmike said:

Yes another streaming service to subscribe to... or not... if you want to watch Scotland games from 2024...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footb...

I just hope the SFA do something worthwhile with the riches they claim will be forthcoming.

Terrible news. I read they also have the rights to Wales and Northern Ireland.

The national teams should be on normal channels. Not another subscription channel. I don't know many people that are willing to pay for Premier Sports. This is pushing things too far adding another subscription to watch Scottish football.

it would be interesting to know if there is another country in the world where 5 subscriptions are needed to watch club, euro and international games.

[dalzo]

Works out at £101 a month to watch Scottish football and the national team in all competitions. Disgraceful and people will soon start to cancel especially in todays climate.

Celtic fans can cut there’s down to £71 by cancelling the European games out there tv package.

[Driver101]

abzmike said:

Driver101 said:

abzmike said:

Yes another streaming service to subscribe to... or not... if you want to watch Scotland games from 2024...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footb...

I just hope the SFA do something worthwhile with the riches they claim will be forthcoming.

Terrible news. I read they also have the rights to Wales and Northern Ireland.

The national teams should be on normal channels. Not another subscription channel. I don't know many people that are willing to pay for Premier Sports. This is pushing things too far adding another subscription to watch Scottish football.

it would be interesting to know if there is another country in the world where 5 subscriptions are needed to watch club, euro and international games.

Are you counting the BBC as 1 of the 5?

I guess England is only 1 behind as they have Amazon. A lot of people already have Amazon and see the TV as a free perk. If you buy a Now TV day pass for £10 you get a free mobile pass for 4 months. Channels included are Sky Premiership, but not Sky Main Event or Football where all the Scottish games are.

£10 and you can get access to most of the EPL games on mobile for 4 months, but zero Scottish football. It's a bit unfair and sounds like an effort to boost EPL figures.

The national games should be on BBC or ITV/STV. Both those channels cover a lot of the England international games and FA Cup. How can an internet streaming service put a better deal together than a mainstream TV channel?

Streaming football isn't great either. The legal streaming services are still a couple of minutes behind live. Read forums, listen to the radio or message groups and everyone is out of sync. It's hard to discuss the game when everyone is at different bits.

Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 27th April 11:44