Premier League 22-23 - who will be relegated?
Discussion
freedman said:
Driver101 said:
I laughed when Roy was connected to the CP job last week.
I think that is a terrible backwards appointment that will end in disaster.
Or not I think that is a terrible backwards appointment that will end in disaster.
Keeping Vieira would have been a disaster
Good point for West Ham, but as usual a really slow start and if we were a bit more clinical could have nicked it.
We still have Man City/Utd and Liverpool to come which will be defeats, as well as Brentford away, but if we can nick points off Bournemouth Leicester Leeds we should be good. If we can keep the goals down against City Utd and Liverpool the goaldifference will act as an extra point.
Forest run in looks terrible I do think they are doomed. Along with Southampton. So its whether the Leeds results of late are just flukes or if it is showing an underlying massive problem there. Everton as always will sneak out of it. Bournemouth I think if they lose to the Hammers could be in big trouble.
We still have Man City/Utd and Liverpool to come which will be defeats, as well as Brentford away, but if we can nick points off Bournemouth Leicester Leeds we should be good. If we can keep the goals down against City Utd and Liverpool the goaldifference will act as an extra point.
Forest run in looks terrible I do think they are doomed. Along with Southampton. So its whether the Leeds results of late are just flukes or if it is showing an underlying massive problem there. Everton as always will sneak out of it. Bournemouth I think if they lose to the Hammers could be in big trouble.
Some big games coming up in the next few weeks which could determine who goes down out of Leicester, Leeds & Everton, as I agree that Forest look doomed along with Southampton with their run-in's and current form.
Leeds v Leicester on 25th
Bournemouth v Leeds on 30th
Leicester v Everton on 1st
Leeds v Leicester on 25th
Bournemouth v Leeds on 30th
Leicester v Everton on 1st
Borunemouth only need 4 more points from a possible 21? Can't see them going down now.
WHU may get dragged into it but I think 6 points from 24 and they're staying up, European football might make it harder for them though.
It's between Leeds, Everton, Forest, Leicester and Southampton IMO.
Southampton are down.
2 from Leeds, Everton, Forest, Leicester.
If we don't beat Wolves on Saturday then we're down as well.
Our next 3 games are Wolves, Leeds, Everton, minimum of 6 points needed, anything less won't be enough. I don't think we'll manage it but would love to be proven wrong, I think we've left the managerial change way too late.
If WHU are safe by the last game of the season they might be an easy 3 points for us though... Wishful thinking.
WHU may get dragged into it but I think 6 points from 24 and they're staying up, European football might make it harder for them though.
It's between Leeds, Everton, Forest, Leicester and Southampton IMO.
Southampton are down.
2 from Leeds, Everton, Forest, Leicester.
If we don't beat Wolves on Saturday then we're down as well.
Our next 3 games are Wolves, Leeds, Everton, minimum of 6 points needed, anything less won't be enough. I don't think we'll manage it but would love to be proven wrong, I think we've left the managerial change way too late.
If WHU are safe by the last game of the season they might be an easy 3 points for us though... Wishful thinking.
coldel said:
Good point for West Ham, but as usual a really slow start and if we were a bit more clinical could have nicked it.
We still have Man City/Utd and Liverpool to come which will be defeats, as well as Brentford away, but if we can nick points off Bournemouth Leicester Leeds we should be good. If we can keep the goals down against City Utd and Liverpool the goaldifference will act as an extra point.
Forest run in looks terrible I do think they are doomed. Along with Southampton. So its whether the Leeds results of late are just flukes or if it is showing an underlying massive problem there. Everton as always will sneak out of it. Bournemouth I think if they lose to the Hammers could be in big trouble.
Another vote for Southampton and Forest being down.We still have Man City/Utd and Liverpool to come which will be defeats, as well as Brentford away, but if we can nick points off Bournemouth Leicester Leeds we should be good. If we can keep the goals down against City Utd and Liverpool the goaldifference will act as an extra point.
Forest run in looks terrible I do think they are doomed. Along with Southampton. So its whether the Leeds results of late are just flukes or if it is showing an underlying massive problem there. Everton as always will sneak out of it. Bournemouth I think if they lose to the Hammers could be in big trouble.
I dont think Bournemouth are seriously still in it (and only play Utd from top half in run in I think?) and you ought to be fine too. Palace are safe now - Forest wont get 9 points (10 with GD) and Leicester wont get 11 (12 with GD). Leeds ought to be ok but they seem determined to drag them themselves back in. Those 11 goals they have shipped for -9 over last 2 games mean a 2-0 win for Everton and a draw for Leeds see Everton go above them on GD. Only problem...we can't win by more than 1. Or lately, at all. Massive chance missed at home to Fulham last weekend...
Crucial game is Leicester vs Everton at the KP. The loser of that game is in big, big trouble. Leicester have an easier run in too. Ideally, they keep losing, we nick a point at theirs, and stay up on 28 points (well we might beat Bournemouth at home last day and I wouldn't rule out a point or two from the next 6 games, so call it 31 or 32)
Well, the Disgrace of Gijon was a thing!
There is still some footage of the game floating about on the internet. West Germany vs Austria, West Germany needed to win, Austria needed to not lose by more than 2. If either scenario didn't play out Algeria qualified. This was back in the day when final group games were played at different times. Germany scored within 10 mins then neither team had a single shot for 80 mins West Germany won 1-0 both qualified. The footage is unreal. Watching both teams just knock the ball around in their own half before launching it to the other team.
Unbelievable that neither team got punished...well, maybe not so unbelievable what we know now about FIFA!
There is still some footage of the game floating about on the internet. West Germany vs Austria, West Germany needed to win, Austria needed to not lose by more than 2. If either scenario didn't play out Algeria qualified. This was back in the day when final group games were played at different times. Germany scored within 10 mins then neither team had a single shot for 80 mins West Germany won 1-0 both qualified. The footage is unreal. Watching both teams just knock the ball around in their own half before launching it to the other team.
Unbelievable that neither team got punished...well, maybe not so unbelievable what we know now about FIFA!
Well Leicester threw in a curve ball at the weekend!
West Ham got a great result - that GD is worth an extra point in the relegation scrap.
Still think despite the Arsenal result Southampton will still go.
Leeds still likely to go? All those home games and getting not much from them...
West Ham got a great result - that GD is worth an extra point in the relegation scrap.
Still think despite the Arsenal result Southampton will still go.
Leeds still likely to go? All those home games and getting not much from them...
Hub said:
I think Bournemouth will slip up at Southampton - we don't have the greatest record against our south coast rivals. That could bring both back into it.
Leeds against Leicester tonight and Bournemouth at the weekend are huge. With City, Newcastle, a resurgent West Ham and the wildly unpredictable Spurs to come they need to put themselves in a position to survive over the next week. Unfortunately after the last 3 results I can't see where a point is going to come from. There's been some horrific recruitment (with the exception of Adams, who's now injured) the US midfield is woeful. Aaronson needs to put about 2 stone on, and McKennie looks like he could give him it. The team as a whole have showed no heart or fight over the last few weeks
With Bournemouth playing Southampton, Leicester v Everton and Forest v Southampton in the near future I think the picture will be clearer after the next 2-3 games. And I can't help but feel that the picture will look bleak for Leeds.
Let's hope someone sees sense and gets rid of Victor Orta!
As an aside, I'm going to see if I can get Junior Firpo's agent to sign me - how the hell the man was on Barcelona's books I have no idea
Yes Leeds are well and truly in it...they can score goals though which even though they shipped a few recently, means they have a punchers chance.
Bournemouth I think could easily slip into a reversal of fortunes, they are shipping goals and they looked toothless against West Ham, wasnt long ago they were bottom three but a few wins got them going again. They need a couple of wins.
Amazing how poor all the teams down there are...and I still count West Ham in that, still a long way to go to getting back to that dynamic counter attacking team that was putting them top 6-7 for two seasons.
Bournemouth I think could easily slip into a reversal of fortunes, they are shipping goals and they looked toothless against West Ham, wasnt long ago they were bottom three but a few wins got them going again. They need a couple of wins.
Amazing how poor all the teams down there are...and I still count West Ham in that, still a long way to go to getting back to that dynamic counter attacking team that was putting them top 6-7 for two seasons.
Hub said:
I think Bournemouth will slip up at Southampton - we don't have the greatest record against our south coast rivals. That could bring both back into it.
Even if Southampton beat Bournemouth, and were then to beat Forest, that'll still only put them on 30 pts, and I can't see them get any more than that with their run-in of games, and Bournemouth are already on 33, so I don't think Bournemouth can get dragged into until maybe last game, where they play Everton, which Everton will likely have to win regardless.Forest and Southampton will be gone by then.
Its between Everton, Leicester and Leeds as to who goes down with Southampton and Forest in my view. Leeds have to beat Bournemouth next game, loose and they are gone I feel, but that assumes Everton beat Leicester or Bournemouth which they will still have to do to get above Leeds on points.
Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 25th April 23:16
aeropilot said:
Its between Everton, Leicester and Leeds as to who goes down with Southampton and Forest in my view. Leeds have to beat Bournemouth next game, lose and they are gone I feel, but that assumes Everton beat Leicester or Bournemouth which they will still have to do to get above Leeds on points.
As a Leeds fan I agree with that. Our last four games look difficult (Newcastle and Spurs at home, City and West Ham away) so I think we have to win at Bournemouth this weekend to have any realistic chance of accumulating enough points to survive. And even if we beat Bournemouth - which is a massive if given the way we're playing - I suspect we're still going to need another two or three points to stay up and I'm not sure where they're going to come from either. I have a feeling Leicester have enough quality to get out of it so I think it's either Everton or (more likely) us joining Southampton and Forest in the Championship next season...
As an Everton fan I think we're going down, we're the lowest scoring team in all of the English football leagues. If we concede 1 goal we face a massive uphill battle to get anything out of a game, the Leicester and Bournemouth games are going to define what happens to us. I don't fancy us getting anything from the Newcastle, Brighton or City games, we need to rely on other teams being worse than us sadly...
Fast Bug said:
we need to rely on other teams being worse than us sadly...
As a Leeds fan, we're doing our best to help you out on that score!!Our only hope is you get docked points for FFP. Come on Everton, one good turn deserves another
Edited by DE1975 on Wednesday 26th April 09:22
Fast Bug said:
As an Everton fan I think we're going down, we're the lowest scoring team in all of the English football leagues.
This is your major problem.The stats people have you as being the one to go along with Forest and Southampton, with a 52% chance of relegation, against Leeds 47% chance.
DE1975 said:
Our only hope is you get docked points for FFP. Come on Everton, one good turn deserves another
Even if Everton are found guilty of breaching the rules on FFP there's not a chance they'll allow a points deduction to have them relegated this season; if they're outside the bottom three they'll just appeal and by the time that's heard it will be next season before any points deduction can be applied. So I think our survival depends on what we do on the pitch and that doesn't give me cause for optimism given a) the way we're playing and b) the difficulty of our remaining fixtures!
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