Premier League 22-23 - who will be relegated?

[Leicester Loyal]

If we lose to Forest (we 100% will) and Bournemouth (might beat these if Rodgers has gone by next weekend but doubt it), then I can't see any way out for us, we're leaving it too late.

Also think Forest and Bournemouth will go down. Us or Wolves will be the other team.

[Paul_B]

It's a tough one to call this year, I think a lot of teams could be in the mix.

But as a Saints fan, we are definitely going to be well and truly in that mix. I was tentatively positive after the transfer window, despite not getting a striker in, but today just showed we are terrible. Everton are dogst, but we are the dogst that's been trodden on and gone mouldy. Ralph will be gone very soon.

[Fast Bug]

Dogs hit with the lowest amount of goals conceded so far this season. Hopefully we'll have our first choice striker back soon and we can start putting a few more chances away.

I think Everton will be fine this season

[Sycamore]

Leicester Loyal said:

If we lose to Forest (we 100% will) and Bournemouth (might beat these if Rodgers has gone by next weekend but doubt it), then I can't see any way out for us, we're leaving it too late.

Also think Forest and Bournemouth will go down. Us or Wolves will be the other team.

As a Wolves fan who's happy to see us get rid of Bruno Lage - We'll either sink like a stone now, or clutch our way out of it dependent on who we appoint.

Leicester are seemingly beholden with Rodgers for now weirdly. I'd have had him down to go long before we got rid of Lage

[Leicester Loyal]

Sycamore said:

As a Wolves fan who's happy to see us get rid of Bruno Lage - We'll either sink like a stone now, or clutch our way out of it dependent on who we appoint.

Leicester are seemingly beholden with Rodgers for now weirdly. I'd have had him down to go long before we got rid of Lage

Mate I am astounded that he is still here, as our 90% of our fans. The good relations we've previously had with the board have taken an absolute battering because of this baffling decision, the club has been ran so poorly in the past 2/3 years, on and off the pitch.

[Pitre]

Leicester Loyal said:

Mate I am astounded that he is still here, as our 90% of our fans. The good relations we've previously had with the board have taken an absolute battering because of this baffling decision, the club has been ran so poorly in the past 2/3 years, on and off the pitch.

Personally I've always rated Brendan Rogers but he certainly doesn't seem to be clicking ATM. Surprising.

[JNW1]

Pitre said:

Leicester Loyal said:

Mate I am astounded that he is still here, as our 90% of our fans. The good relations we've previously had with the board have taken an absolute battering because of this baffling decision, the club has been ran so poorly in the past 2/3 years, on and off the pitch.

Personally I've always rated Brendan Rogers but he certainly doesn't seem to be clicking ATM. Surprising.

I also think Brendan Rodgers is a decent manager but sometimes things slide too far at a club and the only way to get them back on track is for a new manager to come in and shake things up; I'm not a Leicester fan but it sounds like some of those who are feel a tipping point has been reached (and maybe was a little while ago?). Given where they've finished and what they've won during his time in charge the current vilification seems a touch harsh to me but I readily admit I'm not close enough to it all to know....

[Sycamore]

Rodgers in?

[Driver101]

I watched Leicester's game against Spurs and parts of the game tonight. Leicester matched Spurs for a lot of the game before collapsing. Tonight the players looked as if they hadn't given up on Rogers. They were playing and celebrating like it really meant something.

I can't see Forest staying up. All those players and all that money and they are way out of depth in the PL.

[Drezza]

Forest looked like a League 1 team playing Man City, totally out of their depth, can't see how they'll finish anything other than rock bottom playing like that.

[Driver101]

What are Forest's finances like? After spending so much money and signing so many players on PL contacts will they be ok if they go down?

[aeropilot]

Driver101 said:

I can't see Forest staying up. All those players and all that money and they are way out of depth in the PL.

And they were such a good team in the Championship last season, after Cooper came in and dragged them up from the relegation zone to promotion.
I think they just went way overboard on buying far too many players rather than just strengthen the squad a little where needed for the PL....madness.
Looks like it's wrecked the team, and they won't be able to recover now, after nearly a quarter of the way through the season, loosing that badly to teams around them is not a good sign. They'll do well to get into double figures in points at this rate.

[JNW1]

Driver101 said:

I watched Leicester's game against Spurs and parts of the game tonight. Leicester matched Spurs for a lot of the game before collapsing. Tonight the players looked as if they hadn't given up on Rogers. They were playing and celebrating like it really meant something.

I can't see Forest staying up. All those players and all that money and they are way out of depth in the PL.

Yes, the Leicester performance last night certainly didn't suggest Rodgers has lost the dressing room. You'd think there's easily enough quality in that squad to secure a solid mid-table finish but one win against a team also in trouble doesn't prove much so they really need to follow-up on last night with some more good results.

Forest look to have done what Fulham did a few seasons back in that they've brought in a lot of new players who appear to be struggling to gel. From what I understand some of that was forced - in the sense they had a number of loan players last year who left in the summer - but regardless it looks like they've got a problem. Steve Cooper worked wonders getting them promoted last season but with so much money spent how long will he survive if results don't improve?

[Driver101]

aeropilot said:

Driver101 said:

I can't see Forest staying up. All those players and all that money and they are way out of depth in the PL.

And they were such a good team in the Championship last season, after Cooper came in and dragged them up from the relegation zone to promotion.
I think they just went way overboard on buying far too many players rather than just strengthen the squad a little where needed for the PL....madness.
Looks like it's wrecked the team, and they won't be able to recover now, after nearly a quarter of the way through the season, loosing that badly to teams around them is not a good sign. They'll do well to get into double figures in points at this rate.

I watched some of the Forest games towards the end of last season and then the play offs. I was surprised how poor the standard was in the championship.

I suspect come the end of the season Fulham and Bournemouth will both deep in the relegation battle with Forest.

[aeropilot]

Palace have slipped into the spot above the bottom 3 almost un noticed - so they could end up in the mix.
Their next 6 matches are all against other teams around them, so the bottom 6 or 7 teams could look very different come mid Nov, other than I suspect Forest might still be sitting bottom, and possibly cut adrift from even the other two teams in the relegation zone.

Already talk today of Cooper getting the push sooner rather than later.

[coldel]

West Ham got a win against Wolves but the performance was very sketchy. Moyes left it way too long to revamp the ageing squad constantly failing in each transfer window and is left trying to swap out half the team and introduce a whole load of new players in one go. We should claw our way out but not by much.

Forest as I understand it had something like 14 players leave over the summer, so net they are something like 6-7 players in terms of incomings - but same as West Ham, you cant just swap out half a squad and have it click.

I can see Forest going. Bournemouth also. The third spot is really up for grabs. Leeds sorting themselves out, Southampton slipping, Palace big run of games coming up. Leicester you think would go but they have so many good individuals who can win games, depends on how those 6 pointers go. Wolves without a fit striker are sinking like a stone.

[aeropilot]

coldel said:

Wolves without a fit striker are sinking like a stone.

Wolves letting Coady go out on loan as well to Everton, seems a madness decision, given he was their Captain, as well as they now seem very uneasy at the back, coupled with the lack of a striker, although signing Costa, even at 34 with lack of recent game time, could still benefit them, if they can give him the service.

I'm sure they'll appoint another Portuguese coach given the established connections, but likely again no PL experience, which might not work given their current position.

[Ntv]

aeropilot said:

Driver101 said:

I can't see Forest staying up. All those players and all that money and they are way out of depth in the PL.

And they were such a good team in the Championship last season, after Cooper came in and dragged them up from the relegation zone to promotion.
I think they just went way overboard on buying far too many players rather than just strengthen the squad a little where needed for the PL....madness.
Looks like it's wrecked the team, and they won't be able to recover now, after nearly a quarter of the way through the season, loosing that badly to teams around them is not a good sign. They'll do well to get into double figures in points at this rate.

I agree. Shame really as for many of us, it's great to have Forest back in the top flight. Even with some players on loan going back/end of contract etc, I can't understand why they went so far in ditching the team that got them up and bringing in 21 new players. They are going down, and they know how hard it can be to come back up.

[Bannock]

Getting a bad feeling about Fulham, a bad defeat home to Newcastle, injury list is piling up and now includes Mitrovic, with only unproven backup available for him. They've had some disastrous long term injuries - Harry Wilson and Manor Solomon, now also both 1st choice fullbacks (Robinson, Tete) and Mitro amongst others. Palhinha (surely one of the best signings in the league this year) on a ban from yellow cards this weekend didn't help. Might not be back to a full squad before Christmas, and may well get some more pastings in the meantime. Hope morale doesn't get too much of a problem.

[coldel]

aeropilot said:

coldel said:

Wolves without a fit striker are sinking like a stone.

Wolves letting Coady go out on loan as well to Everton, seems a madness decision, given he was their Captain, as well as they now seem very uneasy at the back, coupled with the lack of a striker, although signing Costa, even at 34 with lack of recent game time, could still benefit them, if they can give him the service.

I'm sure they'll appoint another Portuguese coach given the established connections, but likely again no PL experience, which might not work given their current position.

Yes that was a big blow and even I was thinking damn West Ham should have got him! But like many of these things, behind the scenes the player could have said 'hey ive done you guys a fair shift, I want to move for x y and z reasons, can I go?' and the board makes a call on it. Sometimes there are human elements behind transfers that make no sense from a purely footballing perspective.