No red, not a yellow, but take a blue!

No red, not a yellow, but take a blue!

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coldel

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7,943 posts

147 months

TCEvo

12,781 posts

203 months

Thursday 8th February
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fking nonsense.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

238 months

Thursday 8th February
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TCEvo said:
fking nonsense.
+1 unnecessary bullst

Cie

18,811 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th February
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Absolutely ste.

Sort out your abysmal referees and VAR decisions before messing about with this garbage.

2HFL

1,230 posts

42 months

Thursday 8th February
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Imagine the additional delays as VAR tries to determine if it’s a yellow, blue or red card… or not even a card!

If the players themselves weren’t such cheating, self-entitled tts then football would be a far better game.

Introducing rugby-style rules in a game with such an inherent lack of discipline and with a legacy of cheating to gain an advantage, it will never ever work.

Skyedriver

17,959 posts

283 months

Thursday 8th February
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2HFL said:
If the players themselves weren’t such cheating, self-entitled tts then football would be a far better game.
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+1

Blib

44,299 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th February
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Bring it on!

The three hour match is drawing ever closer!

fiatpower

3,059 posts

172 months

Thursday 8th February
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Pointless. All that will happen is teams will lock down and time waste for 10 minutes.

Frimley111R

15,707 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th February
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Excellent!!! Right now yellow cards for tactical fouls and dissent aren't enough. Players take the piss as a yellow is nothing in terms of a penalty.

I'm surprised by another card. It would be simpler to add 10 mins for every yellow.

Football is hating all this but its been allowed to remain a game for cheating and whining for too long. Its like an ancient nationalised industry that's become privatised. The bad old ways must go.

bstb3

4,120 posts

159 months

Thursday 8th February
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fiatpower said:
Pointless. All that will happen is teams will lock down and time waste for 10 minutes.
They'll have a solution to that in a few years... A black and white stripey card for too much pissing about. Whole team gets it. If you get 3 in a game the referee and his assistants get extra biscuits and Liverpool are awarded a penalty the next time you play them.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,012 posts

103 months

Thursday 8th February
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Frimley111R said:
Excellent!!! Right now yellow cards for tactical fouls and dissent aren't enough. Players take the piss as a yellow is nothing in terms of a penalty.

I'm surprised by another card. It would be simpler to add 10 mins for every yellow.

Football is hating all this but its been allowed to remain a game for cheating and whining for too long. Its like an ancient nationalised industry that's become privatised. The bad old ways must go.
I agree, football has far too much cheating and players mouthing off at the referee etc. I think this could be a good move.

It will certainly be interesting.

fiatpower

3,059 posts

172 months

Friday 9th February
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I agree, football has far too much cheating and players mouthing off at the referee etc. I think this could be a good move.

It will certainly be interesting.
It’s pointless. They should crack down on cheating and mouthing off but they should just use yellow cards with the refs actually having the balls to dish them out. I’d love it for a ref to get surrounded by players and everyone of them except the captain getting booked. It should happen under the rules now but refs for some reason don’t use the power.

Twice in a game and you’re off, no messing about with sin bins. You’ll have a lot of bans and perhaps even some games with 8 a side or something daft but it’ll eventually sink in.

standards

1,145 posts

219 months

Friday 9th February
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So long as if a GK is blue carded an outfield player has to play there I’m for it purely on entertainment grounds biglaugh

wazztie16

1,476 posts

132 months

Friday 9th February
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standards said:
So long as if a GK is blue carded an outfield player has to play there I’m for it purely on entertainment grounds biglaugh
In the early stages of sin bins coming into football, I sin binned a goalkeeper in the county church league for dissent by action (sarcastic clapping after I'd awarded a penalty against him).

Cue pandemonium with players claiming you can't sin bin a goalkeeper, the team not having a decent reserve keeper and the stand in goalkeeper having to start off with the penalty kick.

I love sin bins, on Sunday morning I had 2 in the bin in the second half for the same team.

Had warned both managers before the game regarding the FA's stance this season on dissent/delaying the restart of play/technical area (and general participant behaviour).

Mentioned the first 2 points to the captains at coin toss as well.

First half, 2 quiet words to players for the away team and bringing the captain in a little before half time, all using the stepped approach.

69 mins, first bin for the team.

Captain slamming the ball down at my decision (something minor like a throw in or free kick in halfway), because it was public/obvious I had to take action.

He comes back on, 30 seconds later, second player from the team stands up and screams at me after not getting a foul (again, around halfway), couldn't ignore.

I really don't get what goes through the head of some teams/players.

So I'm all for sin bins.

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Friday 9th February
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AFL has a standard 50m penalty for dissent - argue with the ref and the game moves 50m towards your goal.

SWoll

18,514 posts

259 months

Friday 9th February
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More subjective decisions for the ref to make? This will end well..

coldel

Original Poster:

7,943 posts

147 months

Friday 9th February
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Im on the fence a bit.For sure, the endless diving cheating and simulation needs to stop its absolutely fking shameful seeing fit grown men screaming like a baby and rolling around at the slightest of touches. I am not sure how this sorts that out though.

The other part dissent definitely needs sorting out, I see kids replicating the premier league players and mouthing off to authority on the pitch each week, they set a really bad example and no matter what they think kids do idolise and copy all their behaviours. I cant think of a single other sport where the officials have to put up with any dissent let alone the abuse that officials in football get.

Its worth noting that the games rules we have now are a million miles away from the rules of 100 years ago, the game as we see it now evolved hugely to what it is now, so change is a part of the sport.

President Merkin

3,173 posts

20 months

Friday 9th February
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I see a 150% uplift in torn hammys.

Frimley111R

15,707 posts

235 months

Friday 9th February
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SWoll said:
More subjective decisions for the ref to make? This will end well..
But it is working already and a tactical foul is pretty obvious, as is dissent.

In pretty much everything in life we have to work around rules, it's time football players did the same.

coldel

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7,943 posts

147 months

Friday 9th February
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I think it is definitely a good thing for refs to have in their kit, clearly asking players not to act like babies or abusive tts doesn't work. Its about time the game gave the officials a bit of protection from them.