The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)
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57Ford said:
Palace were delighted with themselves yesterday and rightly so but why haven’t they done that all season?
On the pitch, serious Injuries to Eze, Olise, Doucoure and GuehiOn the management front, Glasner has only been in charge for 11 games
In that time hes changed the formation and style dramatically
Whilst yesterday was a very good win, the performances against West Ham and Newcastle were much better
I cant recall another occasion when comparing the two teams, that not a single Utd player from the two 11s last night would get in our side
freedman said:
On the management front, Glasner has only been in charge for 11 games
In that time hes changed the formation and style dramatically
In that time hes changed the formation and style dramatically
Sycamore said:
57Ford said:
Palace were delighted with themselves yesterday and rightly so but why haven’t they done that all season?
Roy Hodgson Who knew
Pitre said:
Have to agree re Hodgson. CP are transformed.
Oh, and Amrabat should have definitely seen red for that horrific attack on Olise. Ho hum.
YepOh, and Amrabat should have definitely seen red for that horrific attack on Olise. Ho hum.
Horrible and deliberate studs up challenge, straight forward red card
Amrabat wasn't a fan when he got some back from Edouard though, w
kersimon800 said:
Radec said:
Although it's old news but something seriously wrong at the club from top to bottom to allow it to get to this stage.
Even with Ineos, can't see how it gets fixed for you guys.
As a reminder, in the half decade before Ten Hag this same team came top 3 a total of 3 times. Even with Ineos, can't see how it gets fixed for you guys.
I dont think we are the lost cause some make out. We just need to get rid of the manager and get a refund on every single one of his signings
New manager bounce, we play well for a season and everyone looks like it’s all good. Then the next season it’s doom and gloom, and wholesale changes again.
It’s just tedious now.
Challo said:
simon800 said:
Radec said:
Although it's old news but something seriously wrong at the club from top to bottom to allow it to get to this stage.
Even with Ineos, can't see how it gets fixed for you guys.
As a reminder, in the half decade before Ten Hag this same team came top 3 a total of 3 times. Even with Ineos, can't see how it gets fixed for you guys.
I dont think we are the lost cause some make out. We just need to get rid of the manager and get a refund on every single one of his signings
New manager bounce, we play well for a season and everyone looks like it’s all good. Then the next season it’s doom and gloom, and wholesale changes again.
It’s just tedious now.
And that's why I think we need to make sure that the next manager is the right one, we just need to put up with the car crash we're currently watching whilst we wait for Ashworth, Berada etc to start and do their due diligence to make sure the next appointment is the right one.
57Ford said:
LF5335 said:
I’m sorry to be the negative one and ruin the positivity of this thread.
That was rubbish
I agree. With our slow defenders, we probably shouldn’t have set up to play as open as we did against a very fast forward lineup and we damned sure should have compacted in defence once we saw the danger they posed during the match rather than maintaining a high pressing defensive line. That was rubbish
Poor initial setup and very poor in-game adaptation. The manager and experienced players could have certainly done better.
The ‘disallowed’ goal might have helped but even then, it’s a long time to withstand the pressure.
GTO-3R said:
There is nobody on that list who I'd swap EtH for.
Really? So Ten Hag inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th. He's spent £400mn with complete free reign over transfers hoovering up loads of his old mates from a farmers league, made us significantly worse, plays dogs
t football, has fallen out with lots of players, has set numerous records for defeats, shots against etc, and overseen complete embarassments like losing 7-0 to Liverpool, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Palace etcUnai Emery inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 4th in the championship, 5th in the championship, 17th in the premier league, 11th in the premier league and 14th in the premier league. He's spent £100mn and turned Aston Villa from relegation threatened into a Top Four team.
I mean each to their own and all that, but hard to argue that there aren't names on that list who could do a better job than the fraud we've got.
simon800 said:
GTO-3R said:
There is nobody on that list who I'd swap EtH for.
Really? So Ten Hag inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th. He's spent £400mn with complete free reign over transfers hoovering up loads of his old mates from a farmers league, made us significantly worse, plays dogs
t football, has fallen out with lots of players, has set numerous records for defeats, shots against etc, and overseen complete embarassments like losing 7-0 to Liverpool, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Palace etcUnai Emery inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 4th in the championship, 5th in the championship, 17th in the premier league, 11th in the premier league and 14th in the premier league. He's spent £100mn and turned Aston Villa from relegation threatened into a Top Four team.
I mean each to their own and all that, but hard to argue that there aren't names on that list who could do a better job than the fraud we've got.
Posters on here have already panned Potter and Southgate so they are gone.
Out of that list you probaly have Tuchel, DeZerbi, Amorim, Frank and Motta.
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Really?
So Ten Hag inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th. He's spent £400mn with complete free reign over transfers hoovering up loads of his old mates from a farmers league, made us significantly worse, plays dogst football, has fallen out with lots of players, has set numerous records for defeats, shots against etc, and overseen complete embarassments like losing 7-0 to Liverpool, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Palace etc
Unai Emery inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 4th in the championship, 5th in the championship, 17th in the premier league, 11th in the premier league and 14th in the premier league. He's spent £100mn and turned Aston Villa from relegation threatened into a Top Four team.
I mean each to their own and all that, but hard to argue that there aren't names on that list who could do a better job than the fraud we've got.
How do you know he had complete free rein over transfers ? That is not how the club works .Antony was unquestionably one he insisted on but I would be amazed if he had much to do with the likes of Casemiro and eriksen .
Hard to believe but the club do have a process and system regarding transfers .
Really?
So Ten Hag inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th. He's spent £400mn with complete free reign over transfers hoovering up loads of his old mates from a farmers league, made us significantly worse, plays dogs
t football, has fallen out with lots of players, has set numerous records for defeats, shots against etc, and overseen complete embarassments like losing 7-0 to Liverpool, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Palace etcUnai Emery inherited a team that in the previous 5 seasons had come 4th in the championship, 5th in the championship, 17th in the premier league, 11th in the premier league and 14th in the premier league. He's spent £100mn and turned Aston Villa from relegation threatened into a Top Four team.
I mean each to their own and all that, but hard to argue that there aren't names on that list who could do a better job than the fraud we've got.
How do you know he had complete free rein over transfers ? That is not how the club works .Antony was unquestionably one he insisted on but I would be amazed if he had much to do with the likes of Casemiro and eriksen .
Hard to believe but the club do have a process and system regarding transfers .
Challo said:
From that list you can already remove Emery, Nagelsmann, Lopetegui, Mourinho, Kenna and Zidane.
Posters on here have already panned Potter and Southgate so they are gone.
Out of that list you probaly have Tuchel, DeZerbi, Amorim, Frank and Motta.
I would go for Amorim after reading this article on himPosters on here have already panned Potter and Southgate so they are gone.
Out of that list you probaly have Tuchel, DeZerbi, Amorim, Frank and Motta.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cv20...
I think DeZerbi might be a good fit as well
We've done this hundreds of times mate.
He has literally come out and said himself that he wouldn't have taken the job without control over transfers.
These are his words;
"I set requirements in advance about how I want to work," he told Dutch outlet Trouw.
"If they aren't granted, I won't do it. I am ultimately responsible and accounted for the results. I don't want to be the sole ruler, I stand for cooperation, but control in transfers is a condition for me."
Look through his (terrible) signings and it's clear they have been led by him;
Malacia (was rubbish then got injured) - played in the Dutch league and he liked him when at Ajax
Eriksen (needs replacing already) - trained at Ajax when recuperating
Martinez (perma crock) - played under him at Ajax
Antony (woeful) - played under him at Ajax
Onana (appalling, needs replacing) - played under him at Ajax
Amrabat (honestly one of the worst CM's we've had) - played under him
Mount (terrible) - impressed Ten Hag when he was in Holland, was clearly Ten Hag's priority midfield signing despite being completely unsuitable for what we needed
Weghorst - Dutch, same agency at Ten Hag
Hojlund - shares an agent with Ten Hag, could be a coincidence.
Casemiro (needs replacing, truly awful) - give you this one, likely the club presented the name and Ten Hag said yes because his mate De Jong had no interest in joining
I imagine Dubravka, Butland, Sabitzer, Evans, Bayindir and Reguilon were more club led
He has literally come out and said himself that he wouldn't have taken the job without control over transfers.
These are his words;
"I set requirements in advance about how I want to work," he told Dutch outlet Trouw.
"If they aren't granted, I won't do it. I am ultimately responsible and accounted for the results. I don't want to be the sole ruler, I stand for cooperation, but control in transfers is a condition for me."
Look through his (terrible) signings and it's clear they have been led by him;
Malacia (was rubbish then got injured) - played in the Dutch league and he liked him when at Ajax
Eriksen (needs replacing already) - trained at Ajax when recuperating
Martinez (perma crock) - played under him at Ajax
Antony (woeful) - played under him at Ajax
Onana (appalling, needs replacing) - played under him at Ajax
Amrabat (honestly one of the worst CM's we've had) - played under him
Mount (terrible) - impressed Ten Hag when he was in Holland, was clearly Ten Hag's priority midfield signing despite being completely unsuitable for what we needed
Weghorst - Dutch, same agency at Ten Hag
Hojlund - shares an agent with Ten Hag, could be a coincidence.
Casemiro (needs replacing, truly awful) - give you this one, likely the club presented the name and Ten Hag said yes because his mate De Jong had no interest in joining
I imagine Dubravka, Butland, Sabitzer, Evans, Bayindir and Reguilon were more club led
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