The Official Leeds United Thread

The Official Leeds United Thread

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Killer2005

19,640 posts

228 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Derby accusing us of spying on there training ground after a man was spotted at the perimeter with some binoculars and a change of clothes.

biglaugh

Winky151

1,267 posts

141 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Just read that myself. So its illegal now to stand at a fence watching people kick a ball about (regardless of whether he was from Leeds or not)?

giblet

8,852 posts

177 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Bielsa admitting to it. I agree with him, it’s not illegal so Fat Frank and Derby can get stuffed.

Pathetic uproar from the pundits on Sky. Set of tossers

jules_s

4,285 posts

233 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Clearly it didn't do too much good

Leeds bossing this 100% from the first minute

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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The first half hour of that was mesmerising. Derby chasing shadows laugh

Nice to see young Clarke get a start, and prove he deserves it.

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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rofl

The interview with Marcelo Bielsa with the translator is pure comedy gold.

Love the way he just holds his hands up & says so fking what i've been doing it for years .

We need him in the premier league so badly

fking hilarious.

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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34,688 on a crappy January evening. Seemed like the sun was shining on that pitch though. We made a decent team look like strugglers. I was only listening on the radio, but we seemed somehow refreshed, like we had had a holiday or something, they really seem unified as a squad. Like the Leeds that started the season, and not a team full of injuries that had just lost 3 games.

Sky might call it spying, I call it doing your homework, and it is exactly what I would expect a highly competent coach to do. If other teams aren't fully informed on their opponents then they will always be at a disadvantage.

It looks like we might be signing a new goalie in the form of Kiko Casilla from Real Madrid

Killer2005

19,640 posts

228 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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I saw a version of that with LUFC badges on, and the text "We were just looking for Derby Cathedral". I can see the next home match having 34,000 people holding a pair of painted bog roll tubes to their eyes.






Winky151

1,267 posts

141 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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If the same guy had sat in the stands at all of Derbys games this season recording it on his phone would there be this/any outcry about it? Martin Keown on Football Focus earlier moaning about Bielsa bending the rules - oh, the irony!

giblet

8,852 posts

177 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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All these tosspot pundits can get back on their high horses and ride off into the sunset.

The uproar is laughable. Having seen the pics of the training ground you can stand on the road and watch them train ffs.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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It's a glorious Leeds tradition anyway, espionage hehe Ever since the days of The Don Revie and his dossiers on every opposition player.

What all the outraged pundits seem to fail to mention is that leaving aside all this pre-game nonsense, it comes down to eleven men from Derby going out and playing eleven men from Leeds for ninety minutes and they simply weren't good enough rolleyes

Du1point8

21,608 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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90s Striker Masinga has passed on, I believe he was only with use for 2 years, but even so, such a shame someone to die so young.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/artic...

Killer2005

19,640 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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Nik da Greek said:
It's a glorious Leeds tradition anyway, espionage hehe Ever since the days of The Don Revie and his dossiers on every opposition player.

What all the outraged pundits seem to fail to mention is that leaving aside all this pre-game nonsense, it comes down to eleven men from Derby going out and playing eleven men from Leeds for ninety minutes and they simply weren't good enough rolleyes
From today's Guardian

Lampard could look at Chelsea when it comes to spying

Frank Lampard was clearly very upset, with some justification, about the discovery of a Leeds employee hiding in the bushes to spy on Derby’s training before the teams played each other at Elland Road on Friday. But don’t think it is only Marcelo Bielsa, the Leeds manager, who would pull such a stunt.

In an interview with the Daily Telegraph in 2011, André Villas-Boas said he would regularly visit opposition training grounds, “often incognito,” for spying missions as part of José Mourinho’s backroom staff at Chelsea.

A 3-0 win against Newcastle in November 2005 was referenced, when Villas-Boas provided Chelsea with a dossier containing 24 tactical graphics. Lampard is entitled to be upset with Bielsa – but maybe he should consider who was wearing the No 8 shirt in Chelsea’s midfield that day.

JNW1

7,787 posts

194 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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Killer2005 said:
From today's Guardian

Lampard could look at Chelsea when it comes to spying

Frank Lampard was clearly very upset, with some justification, about the discovery of a Leeds employee hiding in the bushes to spy on Derby’s training before the teams played each other at Elland Road on Friday. But don’t think it is only Marcelo Bielsa, the Leeds manager, who would pull such a stunt.

In an interview with the Daily Telegraph in 2011, André Villas-Boas said he would regularly visit opposition training grounds, “often incognito,” for spying missions as part of José Mourinho’s backroom staff at Chelsea.

A 3-0 win against Newcastle in November 2005 was referenced, when Villas-Boas provided Chelsea with a dossier containing 24 tactical graphics. Lampard is entitled to be upset with Bielsa – but maybe he should consider who was wearing the No 8 shirt in Chelsea’s midfield that day.
I suspect a fair bit of this goes on, it's just our bloke was a bit obvious about it and got caught! However, Bielsa has admitted it was done on his instruction (so no attempt to deny it or sweep it under the carpet) and the reaction from the likes of Pochettino suggest the practice is far from unprecedented. Clearly Mourinho had his staff doing that sort of thing when he was at Chelsea so either Frank Lampard wasn't aware of it (which is possible) or, if he was, he's a bit of a hypocrite to come out with the comments he has in the last few days.

If I'm honest, though, what I don't understand is why this sort of thing is felt necessary in this day and age? The amount of video footage which is readily available will surely tell us all we need to know about another team's players and style of play so I'm surprised Bielsa thought it worth sending one of his staff to spy on a Derby training session.....

Pieman68

4,264 posts

234 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Du1point8 said:
90s Striker Masinga has passed on, I believe he was only with use for 2 years, but even so, such a shame someone to die so young.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/artic...
RIP Phil. remember him and the chief joining us together. Sad news.

Also read over the weekend that young Toby Nye passed away as well frown

giblet

8,852 posts

177 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Sad news about Masinga and even sadder news about young Toby Nye.

It was great to see the club and supporters come together to help fund his treatment, Liam Cooper and the rest of the players became really close to him and his family. It must be heartbreaking for his parents to lose a kid at such a young age.

Killer2005

19,640 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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FA/EFL now investigating spygate despite no rule apparently being broken.

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Any bets on them using the old universal stick of "bringing the FA into disrepute" rule, and totally forgetting what the other clubs have done in the past?