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Saw this earlier on the BBC site and just watched what happened on YouTube.
There needs to be some directive from the FA about the ball being put out ... the old adage of playing to the whistle applies surely unless the injury is a head one (and the ref blos) - if the ref doesn't blow for a foul, then play on.
I understand that Villa had previously put the ball out for an injured Leeds player and naturally 'expected' the same to happen. They were right to be inflamed by the actions of the Leeds players - but play to the damn whistle ffs! You're only taught it from the age of about 6.
There needs to be some directive from the FA about the ball being put out ... the old adage of playing to the whistle applies surely unless the injury is a head one (and the ref blos) - if the ref doesn't blow for a foul, then play on.
I understand that Villa had previously put the ball out for an injured Leeds player and naturally 'expected' the same to happen. They were right to be inflamed by the actions of the Leeds players - but play to the damn whistle ffs! You're only taught it from the age of about 6.
the leeds goal should have been allowed and they should not have given the goal away. Thats said as a forest fan.
only person who should stop a game is the ref - he had a clear view of the injury and as it was not a head injury should not have stopped play. you play to the whistle as the ref is in charge.
only person who should stop a game is the ref - he had a clear view of the injury and as it was not a head injury should not have stopped play. you play to the whistle as the ref is in charge.
BrabusMog said:
I agree with play to the whistle but half the Leeds players stopped, the left back hit it up the line and then the winger pounced on to the ball and scored a goal. It wasn't very sporting.
true but since when have leeds been sporting 
if its cost them the premiership thats an expensive gesturepetemurphy said:
the leeds goal should have been allowed and they should not have given the goal away. Thats said as a forest fan.
only person who should stop a game is the ref - he had a clear view of the injury and as it was not a head injury should not have stopped play. you play to the whistle as the ref is in charge.
As a Leeds fan I was embarrassed by the whole incident. only person who should stop a game is the ref - he had a clear view of the injury and as it was not a head injury should not have stopped play. you play to the whistle as the ref is in charge.
Tyler Roberts slowed play down and appeared to gesture to indicate he was about to put the ball out (which he should have done) but changed his mind and didn't; yes Villa should have played to the whistle but it was poor on our part. We then had Bamford play acting to get a Villa player sent-off in the ensuing fracas which was also embarrassing; finally, after Bielsa had (rightly) told us to give the goal back, we had Jansson trying to kick the ball away and not even managing to do that right (so double embarrassing!). A shame as it had been a decent game up to that point.
Will it have been a dress rehearsal for the play-off final? Possibly although either Derby or Boro are more than capable of beating us if we play like we did in our two games over Easter!
JNW1 said:
As a Leeds fan I was embarrassed by the whole incident.
Tyler Roberts slowed play down and appeared to gesture to indicate he was about to put the ball out (which he should have done) but changed his mind and didn't; yes Villa should have played to the whistle but it was poor on our part. We then had Bamford play acting to get a Villa player sent-off in the ensuing fracas which was also embarrassing; finally, after Bielsa had (rightly) told us to give the goal back, we had Jansson trying to kick the ball away and not even managing to do that right (so double embarrassing!). A shame as it had been a decent game up to that point.
So Bamford now gets a two game ban for play acting to get an opponent sent-off (and quite right too IMO). However, how does Conor Hourihane - who appeared to punch Klich in the chest - get away with nothing? There appears to be a complete lack of consistency and once again the punishment handed out to Leeds or one of our players seems worse than that given to others clubs and their players; I'm not for one second saying we or our players should get away with it but surely the standards should be the same for everyone?Tyler Roberts slowed play down and appeared to gesture to indicate he was about to put the ball out (which he should have done) but changed his mind and didn't; yes Villa should have played to the whistle but it was poor on our part. We then had Bamford play acting to get a Villa player sent-off in the ensuing fracas which was also embarrassing; finally, after Bielsa had (rightly) told us to give the goal back, we had Jansson trying to kick the ball away and not even managing to do that right (so double embarrassing!). A shame as it had been a decent game up to that point.
JNW1 said:
JNW1 said:
As a Leeds fan I was embarrassed by the whole incident.
Tyler Roberts slowed play down and appeared to gesture to indicate he was about to put the ball out (which he should have done) but changed his mind and didn't; yes Villa should have played to the whistle but it was poor on our part. We then had Bamford play acting to get a Villa player sent-off in the ensuing fracas which was also embarrassing; finally, after Bielsa had (rightly) told us to give the goal back, we had Jansson trying to kick the ball away and not even managing to do that right (so double embarrassing!). A shame as it had been a decent game up to that point.
So Bamford now gets a two game ban for play acting to get an opponent sent-off (and quite right too IMO). However, how does Conor Hourihane - who appeared to punch Klich in the chest - get away with nothing? There appears to be a complete lack of consistency and once again the punishment handed out to Leeds or one of our players seems worse than that given to others clubs and their players; I'm not for one second saying we or our players should get away with it but surely the standards should be the same for everyone?Tyler Roberts slowed play down and appeared to gesture to indicate he was about to put the ball out (which he should have done) but changed his mind and didn't; yes Villa should have played to the whistle but it was poor on our part. We then had Bamford play acting to get a Villa player sent-off in the ensuing fracas which was also embarrassing; finally, after Bielsa had (rightly) told us to give the goal back, we had Jansson trying to kick the ball away and not even managing to do that right (so double embarrassing!). A shame as it had been a decent game up to that point.
Bamford should definitely have been charged for faking getting punched, however the Villa player who clearly punched Klich should be getting something too.
giblet said:
What a way to end the season 
Problem is it's not the end of the season yet! However, the way we're playing I can't imagine us extending it as far as the play-off final never mind winning it; I know we beat Derby relatively easily in both League games this season but the team that played so well in those two matches went AWOL a while ago.....JNW1 said:
giblet said:
What a way to end the season
Problem is it's not the end of the season yet! However, the way we're playing I can't imagine us extending it as far as the play-off final never mind winning it; I know we beat Derby relatively easily in both League games this season but the team that played so well in those two matches went AWOL a while ago.....Murph7355 said:
Was genuinely hoping you guys got a strong result in that last game, but that was poor. And Derby the opposite. Wouldn't bet against the typical 3rd place curse unfortunately.
Despite common perception I think the team that finishes 3rd in the League is actually promoted more often via the play-offs than those finishing 4th, 5th or 6th! However, I'm pessimistic that will happen this time as our efforts in the last four games have been woeful. One point from twelve is more relegation than promotion form and I'm not convinced we'll be able to snap out of it for the play-offs; an inability to convert chances into goals has been a bit of a problem for most of the season but shipping three against an already relegated Ipswich team was a worry as well - someone like an in-form Harry Wilson will have a field day if we continue to play like that....
I guess its our 'expansive football' with our full backs getting forward but we've been left woefully exposed because of it with then whoever is left at the back not even attempting to close the ball down. I'd negate some possession & chances for leaving an extra man back to get a clean sheet.
Winky151 said:
I guess its our 'expansive football' with our full backs getting forward but we've been left woefully exposed because of it with then whoever is left at the back not even attempting to close the ball down. I'd negate some possession & chances for leaving an extra man back to get a clean sheet.
I'm from an era where the primary function of a full back was to defend; similarly, I think the primary function of a goalkeeper is to stop the ball going in the net, the quality of his distribution is of far lesser importance IMO. However, none of this appears to square with current thinking.... giblet said:
Job half done, need to start well on Wednesday and get a quick goal (or two)
Once again we didn't really take our chances tonight but having said that I wasn't convinced we'd get a decent result of any description so I'm quite happy with 1-0 to take back to ER. Overall I thought we were the better team tonight and hopefully we can finish the job on Wednesday; however, we're only one goal up at half-time so there's still plenty of work to do.The penalty that got reversed was a strange one though. My immediate thought was it wasn't a penalty - and having seen replays I still don't think it was - but by the same token I'm not sure what the linesman saw to justify changing the decision. IMO it was the correct decision in the end (i.e. no penalty) but I can understand why Derby weren't happy with how that decision was reached!
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