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A deserved win - Newcastle offered very little.. think Meslier made one save?
Defensively we're poor - Ayling, a right back, seems to be more composed than a Scottish international centre back in Cooper. What with Cooper flying in and Alioski's defending consisting of moves that look like something from Karate Kid, I'm looking forward to getting Llorente and Koch back and maybe, just maybe bringing in a decent left wingback during January.
Onto the next though - don't think I've ever looked forward to a game against Man U so much. Just wait and see which Man U turn up (and which Leeds). Could be a good game and I'm looking forward to seeing their defence up against the likes of Bamford, Rodrigo, Harrison and Raphinha.
Defensively we're poor - Ayling, a right back, seems to be more composed than a Scottish international centre back in Cooper. What with Cooper flying in and Alioski's defending consisting of moves that look like something from Karate Kid, I'm looking forward to getting Llorente and Koch back and maybe, just maybe bringing in a decent left wingback during January.
Onto the next though - don't think I've ever looked forward to a game against Man U so much. Just wait and see which Man U turn up (and which Leeds). Could be a good game and I'm looking forward to seeing their defence up against the likes of Bamford, Rodrigo, Harrison and Raphinha.
k wAs has been said already, another poor defensive performance. I think Leeds and non-Leeds fans alike appreciate the entertaining way we play but we're conceding an average of more than two goals a game - and have conceded more goals than any other PL team so far this season - and you make life very difficult for yourself when you're doing that. Admittedly the injuries to Koch and Llorente aren't helping but we're not going to see those two starting a game together for at least a couple of months and we need to tighten things up before then.
Having said that not every team we play will be able to exploit our frailties in the way Man Utd did today and being honest we're not competing with the likes of them this season anyway; the important thing now is we bounce back and get good results against Burnley and WBA in our next two games as we certainly are competing with the likes of them...
Having said that not every team we play will be able to exploit our frailties in the way Man Utd did today and being honest we're not competing with the likes of them this season anyway; the important thing now is we bounce back and get good results against Burnley and WBA in our next two games as we certainly are competing with the likes of them...
JNW1 said:
As has been said already, another poor defensive performance. I think Leeds and non-Leeds fans alike appreciate the entertaining way we play but we're conceding an average of more than two goals a game - and have conceded more goals than any other PL team so far this season - and you make life very difficult for yourself when you're doing that. Admittedly the injuries to Koch and Llorente aren't helping but we're not going to see those two starting a game together for at least a couple of months and we need to tighten things up before then.
Having said that not every team we play will be able to exploit our frailties in the way Man Utd did today and being honest we're not competing with the likes of them this season anyway; the important thing now is we bounce back and get good results against Burnley and WBA in our next two games as we certainly are competing with the likes of them...
All the above is spot on, our fight is with Burnley, WBA etc, free games really against Scum, Liverpool, Spurs etc... Having said that not every team we play will be able to exploit our frailties in the way Man Utd did today and being honest we're not competing with the likes of them this season anyway; the important thing now is we bounce back and get good results against Burnley and WBA in our next two games as we certainly are competing with the likes of them...
3 points is 3 points but I thought it was an indifferent performance today and to be honest we couldn't have complained if Burnley had taken something out of the game; they controlled a lot of the 2nd half and at times it looked like we'd had a man sent off and they had at least one more player on the pitch! I thought Meslier got away with one in the 1st half as well - the foul given against him looked more like a foul by him and hence they should probably have had a penalty.
Hopefully we'll produce something a bit better against WBA on Tuesday as a few of our players just didn't seem at the races today. Still, we've amassed 20 points from 15 games and if we can keep that up we should be on course for a mid-table finish (which IMO would represent a good season for our first year back in the PL).
Hopefully we'll produce something a bit better against WBA on Tuesday as a few of our players just didn't seem at the races today. Still, we've amassed 20 points from 15 games and if we can keep that up we should be on course for a mid-table finish (which IMO would represent a good season for our first year back in the PL).
Leicester Loyal said:
That was a disgraceful decision to rule their goal out, unbelievable really!
20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The goal wasn't ruled out, as the whistle had been blown before the shot was taken. The poor decision was to give a free kick to Meslier. But, those decisions always seem to be in the keepers favour. 20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
CustardOnChips said:
Leicester Loyal said:
That was a disgraceful decision to rule their goal out, unbelievable really!
20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The goal wasn't ruled out, as the whistle had been blown before the shot was taken. The poor decision was to give a free kick to Meslier. But, those decisions always seem to be in the keepers favour. 20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The ref shouldn't have stopped play so quickly. Nobody stopped playing though. I don't think the players thought the keeper was fouled.
They suggested on MOTD that VAR could have been used to call a foul by the keeper on the Burnley player and a award a penalty. It would have partially corrected a wrong as the goal should have stood.
It wasn't a penalty for Leeds either. The keeper clearly got the ball. Burnley do have good reasons to feel hard done to yesterday.
Driver101 said:
CustardOnChips said:
Leicester Loyal said:
That was a disgraceful decision to rule their goal out, unbelievable really!
20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The goal wasn't ruled out, as the whistle had been blown before the shot was taken. The poor decision was to give a free kick to Meslier. But, those decisions always seem to be in the keepers favour. 20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The ref shouldn't have stopped play so quickly. Nobody stopped playing though. I don't think the players thought the keeper was fouled.
They suggested on MOTD that VAR could have been used to call a foul by the keeper on the Burnley player and a award a penalty. It would have partially corrected a wrong as the goal should have stood.
It wasn't a penalty for Leeds either. The keeper clearly got the ball. Burnley do have good reasons to feel hard done to yesterday.
Pope did get the ball, but so did Bamford. Popes challenge wasn't in control. Anywhere else on the pitch and that is a free kick. So rightly a penalty.
I do think that Burnley were hard done by with that decision.
CustardOnChips said:
Driver101 said:
CustardOnChips said:
Leicester Loyal said:
That was a disgraceful decision to rule their goal out, unbelievable really!
20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The goal wasn't ruled out, as the whistle had been blown before the shot was taken. The poor decision was to give a free kick to Meslier. But, those decisions always seem to be in the keepers favour. 20 points now though, halfway to being safe with just 15 games played.
The ref shouldn't have stopped play so quickly. Nobody stopped playing though. I don't think the players thought the keeper was fouled.
They suggested on MOTD that VAR could have been used to call a foul by the keeper on the Burnley player and a award a penalty. It would have partially corrected a wrong as the goal should have stood.
It wasn't a penalty for Leeds either. The keeper clearly got the ball. Burnley do have good reasons to feel hard done to yesterday.
Pope did get the ball, but so did Bamford. Popes challenge wasn't in control. Anywhere else on the pitch and that is a free kick. So rightly a penalty.
I do think that Burnley were hard done by with that decision.
The Leeds keeper went straight through the back of the Burnley player and lead with his knee to get to the ball. That's a foul. It shouldn't have been a decision to have been made as the goal should have stood.
Driver101 said:
The Burnley keeper got the ball first and then contact was obviously going to happen. That's a fair tackle and I don't see that as out of control. He went for the ball and he got the ball. That's not a foul.
The Leeds keeper went straight through the back of the Burnley player and lead with his knee to get to the ball. That's a foul. It shouldn't have been a decision to have been made as the goal should have stood.
OK. Thanks for sharing your opinion. The Leeds keeper went straight through the back of the Burnley player and lead with his knee to get to the ball. That's a foul. It shouldn't have been a decision to have been made as the goal should have stood.
Driver101 said:
The Burnley keeper got the ball first and then contact was obviously going to happen. That's a fair tackle and I don't see that as out of control. He went for the ball and he got the ball. That's not a foul.
That sort of challenge certainly wasn't a foul when I was a lad but nowadays getting the ball first often isn't enough to avoid a foul being given against you! Even when you get the ball first if it's also inevitable the follow through is going to take out the opponent you can often expect to concede a free kick or a penalty and that's what happened to Pope yesterday; not saying I think it's right but that's the way the current rules seem to work....Driver101 said:
The Leeds keeper went straight through the back of the Burnley player and lead with his knee to get to the ball. That's a foul. It shouldn't have been a decision to have been made as the goal should have stood.
It certainly was a foul by Meslier but the referee got it wrong by awarding the foul the other way round; moreover, he also blew for the free kick before Barnes put the loose ball in the net and once he'd done that I don't think there's any way the goal could have stood. However, what I don't understand is why VAR didn't intervene and at least ask the referee to have a look at the monitor to satisfy himself he'd got the free kick decision correct. Had he done so he'd have realised he'd got it wrong but at that stage I don't think he could have awarded the goal, all he could have done was award Burnley a penalty.
JNW1 said:
Driver101 said:
The Burnley keeper got the ball first and then contact was obviously going to happen. That's a fair tackle and I don't see that as out of control. He went for the ball and he got the ball. That's not a foul.
That sort of challenge certainly wasn't a foul when I was a lad but nowadays getting the ball first often isn't enough to avoid a foul being given against you! Even when you get the ball first if it's also inevitable the follow through is going to take out the opponent you can often expect to concede a free kick or a penalty and that's what happened to Pope yesterday; not saying I think it's right but that's the way the current rules seem to work....Driver101 said:
The Leeds keeper went straight through the back of the Burnley player and lead with his knee to get to the ball. That's a foul. It shouldn't have been a decision to have been made as the goal should have stood.
It certainly was a foul by Meslier but the referee got it wrong by awarding the foul the other way round; moreover, he also blew for the free kick before Barnes put the loose ball in the net and once he'd done that I don't think there's any way the goal could have stood. However, what I don't understand is why VAR didn't intervene and at least ask the referee to have a look at the monitor to satisfy himself he'd got the free kick decision correct. Had he done so he'd have realised he'd got it wrong but at that stage I don't think he could have awarded the goal, all he could have done was award Burnley a penalty.
The keeper came to meet Bamford. He didn't charge out and wipe him out with any real force. That to me was fair even in modern rules. All the studio on MOTD last night agreed it was a poor decision. So do the match reports.
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