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JNW1

7,802 posts

195 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Apparently Radrizzani is now indicating a new manager probably won't be appointed until next week which tends to confirm they haven't been able to land any of their initial preferred choices.

It also suggests that, in contrast to when Bielsa was removed last year, the sacking of Marsch was more of a knee jerk reaction with no firm succession plan in place at the point he was dismissed. Doesn't mean the decision to sack him was wrong but maybe calls into question the thought process and planning behind how it was made?


ziggy328

864 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Bielsa ended up coming back. Stranger things have happened

DE1975

435 posts

107 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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I hope the delay means it's not going to be Nuno as they could just announce that now given he's available.

From what I've read about him so far, I'm going to be disappointed now if it doesn't turn out to be Arne Slot. Hoping that they're working out the terms of his exit.


JNW1

7,802 posts

195 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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ziggy328 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bielsa ended up coming back. Stranger things have happened
Accepting there's no chance Pochettino would come to us my preference would be Slot of the people who've been mentioned. However, I've seen it reported we're in discussions with one or two names the media haven't even picked-up on so god knows who we'll end-up with - I'll be genuinely surprised if it's Bielsa though!

ziggy328

864 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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JNW1 said:
ziggy328 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bielsa ended up coming back. Stranger things have happened
Accepting there's no chance Pochettino would come to us my preference would be Slot of the people who've been mentioned. However, I've seen it reported we're in discussions with one or two names the media haven't even picked-up on so god knows who we'll end-up with - I'll be genuinely surprised if it's Bielsa though!
I hope it’s Slot too. I hope to God it’s not some of the names mentioned. But, and I say this hesitantly, if it’s not Slot then I wouldn’t be in despair if it was Bielsa

Voldemort

6,159 posts

279 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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If we're talking about former managers returning, I'd rather see David O'Leary back.

DE1975

435 posts

107 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Now Slot has ruled himself out, apparently.

This is not going well. It's like our fruitless search for a striker in the Summer, being linked to big names who decided not to come. Lets hope we find our managerial equivalent of Gnonto

Edited by DE1975 on Friday 10th February 14:39

Pieman68

4,264 posts

235 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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As long as Big Sam doesn't get a mention - although from what I am seeing the Dog Botherers seem to think he's their new messiah

Leicester Loyal

4,553 posts

123 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Slot would have been fantastic, wanted him at Leicester for a while. With Feyenoord being top of the league, I did think he'd be silly to come to you. He can play out the season, maybe win the league and then move to wherever he wants in the summer.

You've still got the manager being sacked boost for a couple of games, but you don't want to let it fizzle out, you want someone else in by next weekend really.

The relegation places are going to be entertaining this season, feel like it could be one of about 8 teams that ends up 18th.

JNW1

7,802 posts

195 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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DE1975 said:
Now Slot has ruled himself out, apparently.
This is not going well. It's like our fruitless search for a striker in the Summer, being linked to big names who decided not to come. Lets hope we find our managerial equivalent of Gnonto
Yes, it feels like there's a slight hint of desperation in the air as one candidate after another rules themselves out. As I said in a previous post, the Marsch sacking looked like a knee jerk reaction rather than something that had been planned and thought through and with every day that passes that seems more and more to be the case.

My worry is we just end-up with someone who's prepared to take the job - rather than someone we really want - and in that vein apparently Big Sam has said he could sort us out no problem and Leeds know where to find him if they want to talk to him.....

Drabbesttunic

1,262 posts

41 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Jeez, are you really looking at Gerrard? I'm a Liverpool fan, excellent player, st manager laugh

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

157 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Excited for today. I sincerely hope Adams snaps Martinez. Watched that foul so many times since and I still astonished he stayed on the pitch.

alfa phil

2,102 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Drabbesttunic said:
Jeez, are you really looking at Gerrard? I'm a Liverpool fan, excellent player, st manager laugh
Yes maybe set the bar a bit higher , how about Klop.

JNW1

7,802 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Well we got one more point from them over the two games than I was expecting although in fairness they were missing several of their first choice players for both matches.

But regardless it leaves us in deep trouble and I think one win from the upcoming games against Everton and Southampton is now the absolute minimum we need - if we don't beat at least one of them I reckon we're heading back to the Championship....

Drabbesttunic

1,262 posts

41 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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alfa phil said:
Drabbesttunic said:
Jeez, are you really looking at Gerrard? I'm a Liverpool fan, excellent player, st manager laugh
Yes maybe set the bar a bit higher , how about Klop.
Your humour is wasted on here.

Skyedriver

17,898 posts

283 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I'm no Leeds fan (personal reasons) but I wish you'd taken at least a point from them yesterday. (A Newcastle fan).

DaveyBoyWonder

2,524 posts

175 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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JNW1 said:
Well we got one more point from them over the two games than I was expecting although in fairness they were missing several of their first choice players for both matches.

But regardless it leaves us in deep trouble and I think one win from the upcoming games against Everton and Southampton is now the absolute minimum we need - if we don't beat at least one of them I reckon we're heading back to the Championship....
Arguably less than we deserved to get. In fairness, we were also missing our top goalscorer who may well have buried one of the chances we had yesterday. Disappointed about yesterday but from what I saw, I feel weirdly positive. We actually played some decent football I thought and there were large parts of the games where they couldn't cope - thats a team that briefly went 2nd in the prem. Keep that up for Saturday vs Everton and then Southampton the week after is the key.

Manager search, what the hell is going on. Talk of the ex-Ajax boss who was basically hounded out after what was supposed to be a poor run and yet looking at his results, it didn't seem too bad. Based on the last 2 games, I'd give it to Skoobs til the end of the season if we can't get who we want now.

Killer2005

19,658 posts

229 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
Manager search, what the hell is going on. Talk of the ex-Ajax boss who was basically hounded out after what was supposed to be a poor run and yet looking at his results, it didn't seem too bad. Based on the last 2 games, I'd give it to Skoobs til the end of the season if we can't get who we want now.
Seems the board may have backed out of that one after the fan reaction of the news.


DE1975

435 posts

107 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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it seems the desired 4 candidates were Corberan/Iraola/Gallardo/Slot, all of whom have turned down the club to stay where they are (although it seems Iraola would be open to a move subject to his release clause being resolved, but should we pay 7-10m to get someone who's only got 3 months left on their contract?).

In the scenario that we secure Premier league football for next season, I would imagine that 3 of those 4 would maybe see the situation differently and be open to the possibility of taking over in the summer (Corberan being the exception who's now committed longer term to WBA).

Whoever they appoint now should be on an interim basis to the end of the season, and if they do well then consider a longer term deal or back to considering one of Iraola/Gallardo/Slot.

I'd probably stick with Skubala for now, given he knows the players, would give some continuity and consistency, and there isn't lots of time for someone new to come in and make lots of changes, given the squad is fixed to the summer window.

We're also not playing terribly, the 2 games against Man U have been decent performances. Our weakness all season has been defence, and Wober has looked an improvement and McKennie alongside Adams ahould provide a bit more protection for the back 4. Dare I say it, but even Firpo did OK in the United games.

I do think the next 2 games against Everton and Southampton are must wins. The trouble is, they will see a game against Leeds as a must win as well. It's going to be a nervy few months but I think the team should be able to do enough under Skubala.

Should've sacked Jesse in October after the Leicester and Fulham games. The Liverpool win followed by the Bournemouth game, that we were lucky to win, gave him a stay of execution

JNW1

7,802 posts

195 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
JNW1 said:
Well we got one more point from them over the two games than I was expecting although in fairness they were missing several of their first choice players for both matches.

But regardless it leaves us in deep trouble and I think one win from the upcoming games against Everton and Southampton is now the absolute minimum we need - if we don't beat at least one of them I reckon we're heading back to the Championship....
Arguably less than we deserved to get. In fairness, we were also missing our top goalscorer who may well have buried one of the chances we had yesterday. Disappointed about yesterday but from what I saw, I feel weirdly positive. We actually played some decent football I thought and there were large parts of the games where they couldn't cope - thats a team that briefly went 2nd in the prem.
If we'd got a draw out of yesterday I think that would have been fair - we more than matched them for most of the first 80 minutes but for the second time in five days we gave Rashford a free header from about eight yards out and the way he's playing he not surprisingly buried it. We were then chasing the game and they scored a second which I thought definitely flattered them. However, they were a long way below full strength and even with a second choice central defensive pairing we didn't really manage to give De Gea too much to do; therefore, much as I'd like to believe otherwise, I don't think we're close to being competitive with their first eleven.

That said I do think we've a squad that's as good as probably half the division and certainly isn't one of the worst three in the PL. Unfortunately, though, the results just haven't matched the potential of the squad - or some of the performances - and that's why Jesse was shown the door.

DaveyBoyWonder said:
Manager search, what the hell is going on. Talk of the ex-Ajax boss who was basically hounded out after what was supposed to be a poor run and yet looking at his results, it didn't seem too bad. Based on the last 2 games, I'd give it to Skoobs til the end of the season if we can't get who we want now.
As others have said, it appears Schreuder's out of the running; however, from the sounds of it that's due in part to the board being concerned the fans weren't keen on him and if that's true it really does make you wonder about the whole process. It's quite clear they sacked Marsch without having a replacement lined-up - which suggests it was a knee-jerk reaction to the Forest result - and since then it's all unravelled and become a complete farce; if we're now down to deciding who to appoint based on comments on Twitter then god help us!

In many respects I agree it would be better to stick with Skubala for longer rather than appoint the wrong person but given the precarious position we're in I also think we need someone to steady the ship ASAP and can he do that? Regardless, the way things are going it sounds like he's going to be in charge for the Everton game on Saturday so if we get a result there - and there's been no progress with finding a suitable, permanent, replacement - perhaps the board will be tempted to give him longer? However, it's high risk because if we lose at Goodison - and then fail to beat Southampton the following week - we'll be in deep trouble and quite likely looking at relegation.